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Judaism’s Carnal Itch

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By Brother Nathanael Kapner, Copyright 2008-2011

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CARNALITY & JUDAISM are synonymous.

Judaism calls for a carnal kingdom in which all the Gentiles whom the Jews call “goys” will worship at the foot stool of Zion which is the modern day State of Israel.

Whether it’s a secular Zionism or a religious Zionism (the ultra Orthodox protest against a “secular” Zionism) it’s all the same. Jews want a carnal Messiah – whether it’s a “person” or a “NWO” in which the Jews reign supreme.

This “carnal” religious view of Judaism explains why so many Jews have a “carnal itch:”

The pornography industry is run by Jews.
Hollywood’s filth is belched out by Jews.
Homosexuality & Lesbianism is promoted by B’nai B’rith’s Anti Defamation League.
The record industry’s sexual lyrics & videos come from the hands of Jews.


MANY JEWS ULTIMATELY SUBSCRIBE to the Talmud. Orthodox Christians subscribe to the Holy Bible. The promises of the Old Testament can be interpreted in two ways: 1) Carnally; or 2) Spiritually.

For example, the Old Testament promises that “Israel shall be a light to the Gentiles.”
The carnal interpretation by Zionists is that the State of Israel will be a “light to the Gentiles” by:

Teaching the “goys” the Noahide Laws.

Teaching the “goys” Zionism through the mainstream media which they control.

Teaching the “goys” a carnal religious system by the rebuilding of the Temple.

Teaching the “goys” war against all “enemies of Israel.”

But the Orthodox Christian interpretation of “Israel being a light to the Gentiles” is from the New Testament in which Jesus Christ said, “My kingdom is not of this world.” Christ bids us to a Spiritual kingdom of repentance, baptismal illumination, and love towards our neighbors. In other words:

Jews Want It Their Way – A CARNAL WAY!
But True Christians Want It Christ’s Way – A SPIRITUAL WAY!
Let’s Stop Judaism’s Carnal Itch Right Now!


For More See: “Why I Left Judaism” Click Here

And: “Satan’s 3 Offers To The Jews” Click Here

And: “Christians NOT Jews Are God’s Chosen People!” Click Here

And: “Confessions Of A Former Jew” Click Here

And: “What Judaism Is Really All About” Click Here

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Brother Nathanael @ June 22, 2008


  1. AsWas June 23, 2008 @ 10:04 am

    You certainly have to hand it to the Jews for achieving so much power in the world with so few numbers. What a pity that they choose (as a generalisation) to use that power for self-serving and evil ends rather than for the good of all mankind. Otherwise, indeed, the Gentiles might have looked towards Israel for light, whereas, in reality, Israel is probably the most distrusted and hated nation on earth. Making slaves of the Gentiles in order that Jews can have them lick their feet (to use Menachem Begin’s phrase) is not going to fulfil the prophecy is it?

  2. Ed June 23, 2008 @ 11:17 am

    The ‘carnal itch’ is a manifestation of Talmudic and Noahide doctrine, which sees non-Jews as chattel to be used, manipulated and exploited — which then manifests in the political, spiritual, sexual and economic usury and subjugation of “the goys.”

    Left-liberalism has a similar sexual fetish, which is one reason why so many Jewish perverts are attracted to it (think Barney Frank), and why the Democrats will never deliver America from Zionist subjugation.

    But this isn’t an endorsement of the GOP, which has similarly prostrated itself before murderous Zionist perverts and degenerates, only the warmongering kind.

    Too many average Americans and Christians seem to think we can somehow make a deal with the Zionist devils and continue to limp along, sweep the moral rot under the carpet, and somehow return to normalcy and respectability without confronting the Judaic root of the problem. This plays into organized Jewry’s hands, which is why it screams “anti-Semitism” every time someone makes observations like those Br. Nathanael outlined above and in many other posts: it wants Americans to continue to psychologically repress the obvious.

    You can’t make deals with the devil anymore than you can get a little bit pregnant. Jewish Zionist ideologues cannot be allowed to stay in America. They have citizenship rights in Israel, and should be sent there.

    The alternative is to let them and their corrupt Pharisaic establishment partners (the Dems and the GOP) destroy America, Christianity and Western civilization.

    Non-Jewish, corrupt Christian Zionists and left-liberal sickos can be more easily brought to heel once their powerful Jewish Zionist allies are permanently banished. Allowing them to stay and succeed in their treachery only leads people to believe their might be merit to their selfishness, narcissism and warmongering, and continue to broadcast their lecherous bile and cultural pollution to impressionable minds, leading Americans of all races off track like lambs to slaughter.

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  4. Juniper June 23, 2008 @ 1:11 pm

    God’s chosen people are the people that follow whatever he has ordained them to follow and believe. They work hard for what is right and follow the truth. One thing is for sure THEY are not the Zionists hand-puppets. Hint Hint.

  5. InSiSt June 23, 2008 @ 2:40 pm

    Could anybody explain how the antizionist jews are as bad as the zionist jews?
    I am not talking about their view of Christ. That is probably the same, but as to “decency” if theirs, if any.
    Is the noahide laws invented by which of them, the zionist jews?
    Are the antizionist jews what is called as ortodox jews?

  6. AsWas June 23, 2008 @ 3:56 pm

    @ Ed

    I can’t help thinking that while the Palestinians would be utterly dismayed by your suggestion of dumping extra millions of US Jews onto their land (requiring ever more expansion of the illegitimate Jewish settlements and even more grabbing of neibouring states’ resources), the Zionists might actually be very pleased by it. Israel existed as a concept and intention long before it came into being as a recognized state. The problem for the Zionists was that no comfortable European Jew wanted to go and live in the backwaters of the Middle East, and so we had the Second World War and the “Holocaust” to persuade them that it would be in their best interests to do so. Since the Zionists still want Jews from the diaspora to go to Palestine and populate their ultimate fantasy of Eretz Israel, just maybe they are stoking up what they call “anti-semitism” deliberately in order to recreate a situation in America similar to that in Germany before WW2. And just maybe the non-Jewish Neocons are trying to do what Hitler originally intended to do (with the cooperation of the Zionists) and establish (through crushing all the hostile neighbouring states) a final safe homeland for all the worlds Jews, only this time not in Madagascar but in Palestine. Maybe this makes sense of the cooperation between the two groups, which, up until now, I have only really been able to think of as being something akin to the cooperation between the Jewish and Italian Mafias.

  7. SomeGirl June 23, 2008 @ 4:24 pm

    The real Jews are the antizionist Jews. They have the real semetic blood, but I think they are very few of them. The Zionists or even Christian Zionists have NO semetic blood in them and they are the one’s that are making all these anti-semetic laws. The real semetics are the Arabs and Palestinians and all these wars are being fought against them, I guess we all know who the real anti-semetics really are now, the Zionists. The Zionists are basically European Jews called (Khazars)a semi-nomadic tribe that converted to Judaism around the 8th or 9th century. It is really interesting to read history about the Khazars because a lot of people have never even heard of them.

  8. Ed June 23, 2008 @ 5:31 pm

    Please let me post my response in a confrontation with a Jewish Zionist that will address some of the questions raised above, including why I believe Jewish Zionists belong in Israel — but not armed to the teeth by their allies in the West and given a blank check to ethnically cleanse and engage in worldwide intrigue and treachery, which has been key to their agenda:

    RonL wrote: “Every communist movement is anti-Zionist to the point of being antisemetic.”

    Most Communists are today, but they were philo-Semitic at Communism’s outset, because (like Winston Churchill) they recognized its Jewish roots. They also realized most Jews shared their anti-Christian and Western civilization hatred. The American hard Left (but not the heavily Jewish and Jewish influenced left-liberal Dem establishment) is anti-Jewish today because of Jewish support for nationalism in Israel and because Jews have joined the moneyed US Establishment.

    I don’t consider the Nazis to be defenders of the West or “belove” them, but let’s face it, anti-Semitism has been part and parcel of Western civilization for centuries for the same reason that Western civilization is anti-Islamic: Jewish, Christian and Islamic belief systems are incompatible and mutually exclusive. This is why the Neocons hate Russia and Europe so much and are trying to invent a belief system to replace Western civilization modeled on the neo-American, blank slate idea that we can all drop our cultural and ethnic affinities (other than Jews, of course) and unite in worship of money, markets, State, multiculturalism and Zionism. This necessarily means jettisoning Christianity, from which the anti-Semitism common to Western civilization has always and inevitably sprung.

    According to this child-like fantasy, all it will take is a powerful State and a strong, authoritarian (Neocon/Neolib) hand to guide us through the rough spots—violently if necessary.

    If much of this sounds familiar, it is because it was the modus-operandi of Communism.

    As a Jewish Zionist, RonL, you don’t want the Neocon/Neolib agenda against Western civilization unmasked, because it so much resembles the Communist and left-liberal agenda. Politics make strange bedfellows, and on the question of hatred of Western civilization, Jewish Zionists, Communists, Neocons and Neolibs are all on the same team.

    Get over it.

  9. America, the Beautiful June 23, 2008 @ 6:55 pm

    Ed, thank you for shedding some light on the fact that neoconservatism is nothing less than communism, in my view, with a new age makeover, a blind eye to immorality, and a flash of money in its deep pockets.

    The neoconservatives think that they have figured us out. They obviously believe we are shallow, lazy and easily bribed into forgetting our basic Christian roots and this blessed land we’ve been given.

    So they choose politicians that see the world in monitary terms (Bush, Clinton, etc.)..where money talks — and they with their big bucks put them into office.

    Ask yourself, WHY is it that this administration (and probably the last one too) believes that they can BUY themselves out of every problem?

  10. Wm Belts June 23, 2008 @ 9:31 pm

    I have a small objection to make. When discussing Jews and the problems they involve themselves and others in, people who are not Jews should be called non-Jews, and not gentiles.

    Non-Jews are almost 99% of the world’s population, and calling them the name that Jews have chosen for them is as foolish as calling normal men straight and homosexual men as gay.

  11. AsWas June 23, 2008 @ 9:31 pm

    @ Ed

    Forgive me for pointing out that, apart from the fact that you didn’t address my question of what right does the US have to dump millions of its Jews onto the already unbearably suffering Palestinians (some of them Christians, by the way), the Jewish Neocons have no need to “invent a belief system” for us goys. It has existed for centuries, and it is called Noahidism. Moreover, although some of them, such as Bush, profess to be Christians, the non-Jewish Neocons seem to have no aversion to embracing this ideology on behalf of the entire US population, since Bush Sr signed into law a Congressional Resolution (Public Law 102-14 Mar. 20 1991) which claimed: that the so-called “Noahide Laws” were the basis of all civilization; that America had departed from them; and that it needed a special day of celebrating the life of a one-time candidate for being the Jewish messiah, Rabbi Schneerson, in order to return to them. The Pope, of course, has also accepted the precedence of the Naohide Laws (perhaps we can be charitable, and assume that he never thought to look into their implications for Christians – especially the one that makes “idolatry” a capital offence), so Europe is not too far behind in accepting the Jewish noahide yoke either.

  12. AsWas June 23, 2008 @ 10:12 pm

    @ Ed

    Also, while I agree with you that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are incompatible and mutually exclusive belief systems, I do not believe that that is the sole cause of what is called “ant-semitism”. After all, Buddhism and Hinduism are also incompatible with Christianity, but I have never heard of “anti-Buddhism” or “anti-Hinduism”. The cause of “Islamophobia” is the behaviour of Islamic extremists (or sometimes that of the CIA, Mossad, or the FSB pretending to be Islamic extremists), and the cause of “anti-semitism” is simply the behaviour of Jews – their Judaic religion teaching them to be self-centred, narcissistic, racist, and supremacist (white folk with the same characteristics are equally unattractive).

  13. Ed June 24, 2008 @ 12:00 am

    ‘what right does the US have to dump millions of its Jews onto the already unbearably suffering Palestinians’

    The best way to end Palestinian suffering is to end US economic and military aid to Israel, which is what has enabled and armed Jewish atrocities against Palestinians. The primary facilitator of aid to Israel is US Jewish Zionism, which has attracted admirers and allies on both the Left and Right. I seek the deportation of the most fanatical Jewish Zionist ideologues to their cultural homeland, which will eventually strike a fatal blow to American blank check support to Israel, and hence force Israel to finally define its borders and cease its costly aggression, all of which will be good for the Palestinians. The question is, what moral right do we have to NOT take these steps, and instead acquiesce to the Judeofascist status quo and Zionist occupied Washington?

    ‘the Jewish Neocons have no need to “invent a belief system” for us goys. It has existed for centuries, and it is called Noahidism.’

    Agreed, but what is the best way to implement anti-Christian Noahidism in a (nominally) Christian nation: by openly declaring it their agenda, or by ushering it in within a Trojan horse of “universalism“? How many Jewish Neocons are writing tracts and speeches on the virtues of the imposition of Noahidism? No, they claim they are spreading the “universal American values of freedom and democracy,” which are distinct from the Christian values of Western civilization, and hence ostensibly a new belief system (aka New World order–similar to claims made by Communists of projecting universal humanist values). And many of “us goys” are engaged in the same kind of rhetoric, thus roping non-Jews, knowingly or unknowingly, into the Noahide agenda. There is nothing wrong with freedom and democracy, but this is not what they really have in mind, a point on which I think we agree. Claims of universalism are almost always a pretext for a larger, sinister power grab.

    ‘I agree with you that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are incompatible and mutually exclusive belief systems, I do not believe that that is the sole cause of what is called “ant-semitism”’

    I never said it was. Of course Jewish chicanery plays a major role in anti-Jewishness.

    The Christian ethos is one of general tolerance, so long as minorities don’t adopt a political agenda in conjunction with their religion that seeks to destroy Christianity and Western civilization. Buddhists living in America, for example, live and let live, and by and large stay out of aggressive politicking, and when they do politic, it is by no means treacherous and subversive. Jews, and to a lesser extent, Muslims, don’t play be these rules. They seek to overthrow the religions, culture and values of the foreign lands which they occupy, which is why the most fanatical of them should be deported to their cultural homelands — for their own good, and everyone else’s.

  14. InSiSt June 24, 2008 @ 4:27 am

    Are these ortodox jews or “zionist” jews?
    Who are they?
    Se links below.

  15. America, the Beautiful June 24, 2008 @ 7:12 am

    Ed, I think you have a good perspective on the issue but, in reality, the chances of deporting Zionist Jews is about the same as deporting 20 million illegal aliens.

    It simply won’t happen. The American people have been creatures of comfort through materialism. That is the very thing that the Jewish corporations are offering — more creature comforts, moral degradation, revisionist history, and when it comes to God in the public square — no doubt they want to Outlaw our Lord and Savior in favor for their traditions and secularism.

    In essense, we have become fat and happy to keep up quiet while the subversion is under way.

    That is why God MUST send a chastisement, He loves us too much and He loves His only Begotten Son too much to allow the destruction of all that Christ died to redeem.

    You just have to wonder why we keep setting ourselves up for severe corrections instead of learning these moral lessons taught over and over again throughout history.

  16. admin June 24, 2008 @ 8:35 am

    Dear InSisT – Whether is a politcal Zionism or a religious Zionism it’s all the same:

    Supremacist reign of the Jews. +BN

  17. AsWas June 24, 2008 @ 10:12 am

    There is also the problem of how you are going to define Jewishness so that you know who to deport and who not to. Will it be by racial descent, in which case Bro. Nathaniel might get a very unpleasant change of address to Tel Aviv, ending up surrounded by a very angry mob of deported Jews. Or will it be by professed religion, in which case many influential (and still Zionistic) secular and aetheistic Jews will escape the net. And what about the so-so Jews like John Kerry and Nancy Pelosi? I can see the whole thing ending up in the measuring of nose lengths a la Nazi Germany.

  18. AsWas June 24, 2008 @ 12:14 pm

    If you want an alternative solution, there is, in fact, a direct historical parallel to this problem, namely the threat posed by Catholicism to the overwhelmingly Protestant realm of England (and then later the Union of England, Scotland, and Wales) from the reign of Elizabeth 1st on.

    Let us not forget that it isn’t only Judaism and Islam that claim universal jurisdiction over the earth and its peoples, so too does the Roman Church to this day. We (those of us who are not Catholic, at least) hope that it has now left it’s ways of trying to impose its doctrines by violence behind it, but that was certainly not always the case, as the terroristic Gunpowder Plot of 1605 demonstrates. What England had then was a minority of Catholics, some of whom could be trusted to serve England, but many who would always put their loyalty to the Papacy first, and it was virtually impossible to tell one fom the other with any certainty. One solution might have been to expell all of the Catholics to Spain, France, or Italy.
    In those days this would not have been a very practical proposition, so what happened instead was that a series of laws (e.g., The Test Acts) were introduced in Parliament that in effect restricted the access of Catholics to the levers of power (including the banning of the Monarch from marrying a Catholic). Of course, Catholics resented (and still do) this discrimination, which has, in fact, long since (apart from the injuction against the monarch marrying a Catholic) been done away with as Rome gradually seems to have come to terms with the post-Enlightenment world, but it did preserve the peace and liberty of conscience of the vast majority of the British peoples for a number of centuries. I simply suggest, then, that if it was possible in Britain to tame the ambitions of Rome in this manner, then it ought to be possible to do the same to those of the Jews in the US. And it wouldn’t be racial discrimination either; it would be ideological discrimination, allowing access to power (including not only political power, but also, for example, media power) only to those who pledge unswerving allegience to the US and its peoples and to them alone.

  19. AsWas June 24, 2008 @ 12:25 pm

    I apologise for spelling your name incorrectly, Brother Nathanael.

  20. Ed June 24, 2008 @ 1:59 pm

    AsWas, why do you insist on interpreting my position as the advocacy of the deportation of ALL Jews when I specifically advocated merely the deportation of “Jewish Zionist ideologues.”

    Yes, how that phrase may be defined is open to interpretation, but what I am thinking of in particular are the Jewish Zionist Neocons within the Bush administration, for example, who formulated and propagated the false evidence used to lie America into the Iraq war on behalf of Israel.

    Certain members of AIPAC and other tenacious Jewish lobbies may also fall into this category. Obviously, some criteria would have to be established, as it was with the deportation of Communists to the Soviet Union.

    It’s important to think of Jewish Zionism not so much as an cultural/religious formulation but as an ethnically fundamentalist ideology dedicated to Jewish supremacy and rule that is headquartered in Israel, just as Communism was headquartered in the Soviet Union and Nazism in Germany.

    This is why I use the term ‘Judeofascism’ to distinguish sane Jews from Jewish Zionist fascists and supremacists.

    Deporting Judeofascists really isn’t that far-fetched, once they are defined, investigated and exposed as agents of a hostile, alien ideology bent on overthrowing democracy and enslaving Americans to their agenda.

    It’s disturbing to me that people have been so brainwashed and indoctrinated by Zionism to consider taking reasonable steps to ensure the survival of Western (Christian) civilization through the judicious deportation of its most powerful and tenacious enemies as somehow beyond the pale of reasonableness.

    If the generation burdened with the task of exposing and defeating Communism had been such weak hand-wringers, we would now all be worshipping the memory of Stalin at gunpoint, and declaring Christ Himself the eternal enemy of mankind.

  21. America, the Beautiful June 24, 2008 @ 2:40 pm


    If you do not like Roman Catholics, you really are going to have a problem with Orthodox Christians.

    Better re-think your positions. The Orthodox Christians hold to even stronger positions of the Early Church fathers.

    England’s rebellion due to Henry VIII’s demand for a divorce and insistance upon being the head of his own church is what caused Britain to separate from Rome.

    It is not likely that Christendom will change its trajectory to make way for SIN to be enshrined into theological law.

  22. Ed June 24, 2008 @ 5:01 pm

    The Catholic vs. Protestant divide, at this point, is akin to two servants fighting over scraps from the Zionist Master’s table.

    The Zionist Master and his Great Whore (the left-liberals) today rule the American roost, and every Christian of every denomination should be concentrating on them, not other Christians.

    Divide and conquer — this is exactly how the Zionists keep the Sunnis and Shiites subjugated. I would hope that Christians would be a bit more enlightened.

  23. JenChen June 24, 2008 @ 10:51 pm

    jews are no longer evolving-(they have no ability to love or nurture) Evolution is gauged by a beings ability to love and nurture others especially as a family and a community. jews are sociopaths who do not have any of the instincts that evolving beings possess-(instincts that enable them to love and nurture their own offspring). They are not capable of loving their neighbors as well-they are the antichrist. Christ is all about love. The jews are all about the ten deadly sins: Lust, greed, envy, pride, sloth, anger, inequity, theft, lies, vengeance. If you evolve-you continue to reincarnate. If you are a jew you no longer have any reason to reincarnate-you can not evolve. The jews are people who spent each incarnation doing the opposite of evolution-until they have no love left in them. They then have no capacity to evolve-they are sociopaths and a sociopath is incurable-there is no hope for jews who are in a hell that is horrible for them-there is no such thing as a happy jew-they all have sick desires which they project onto everyone else. There is not a jew who does not want to end his life. The suicidal are the most homicidal. The jews can only destroy because they crave death-any way out of the hell that they live every day. The richest jew is the most miserable-because the jews that get money by causing others the most misery-only get that same misery in return. Only those who give happiness to others will ever know true happiness so that leaves out all jews-they are all selfish sadistic control freaks who live every moment in their pathetic Hell on earth.

  24. Frances June 25, 2008 @ 1:36 am


    Excerpt:‘We have blackened the Catholic Church with the most ignominious calumnies, we have stained her history, and disgraced even her noblest activities. We have imparted to her the wrongs of her enemies, and have brought these latter to stand more closely by our side. So much so that we are now witnessing, to our greatest satisfaction, rebellions against the Church in several countries. We have turned her clergy into objects of hatred and ridicule, we have subjected them to the hate of the crowd. We have caused the practice of the Catholic religion to be considered out of date and a mere waste of time. We have founded many secret associations which work for our purpose, under our orders and our directions.

    ‘So far, we have considered our strategy in our attacks upon the Church from the outside. But this is not all. Let us explain how we have gone further in our work to hasten the ruin of the Catholic Church, and how we have penetrated into her most intimate circles, and have brought even some of her clergy to be pioneers of our cause:

    ‘Apart from the influence of our philosophy, we have taken other steps to secure a breach in the Catholic Church. Let me explain how this has been done. We have induced some of our children to join the Catholic body with the explicit intention that they should work in a still more efficient way for the disintegration of the Catholic Church, by creating scandals within her.

    ‘We are grateful to Protestants for their loyalty to our wishes, although most of them are, in the sincerity of their faith, unaware of their loyalty to us. We are grateful to them for the wonderful help they are giving us in our fight against the stronghold of Christian civilisation, and in our preparations for the advent of our supremacy over the whole world.

    ‘So far we have succeeded in overthrowing most of the thrones of Europe. The rest will follow in the near future. Russia has already worshipped our rule. France is under our thumb. England, in her dependence upon our finance, is under our heel; and in her Protestantism is our best hope for the destruction of the Catholic Church. Spain and Mexico are but toys in our hands. And many other countries, including the United States of America, have already fallen before our scheming.

    ‘But the Catholic Church is still alive. We must destroy her without the least delay and without the slightest mercy. Most of the Press of the world is under our control. Let us intensify our activities. Let us spread the spirit of revolution in the minds of the people.

    ‘They must be made to despise patriotism and the love of their family, to consider their faith as a humbug, their obedience to the Church as a degrading servility, so that they may become deaf to the appeal of the Church and blind to her warnings against us. Let us, above all, make it impossible for Christians outside the Catholic Church to be re-united with her, or for non-Christians to join the Church; otherwise our domination over them will never be realised.’

  25. America, the Beautiful June 25, 2008 @ 8:34 am

    Speaking of “the carnal itch” . . .

    The entire homosexual agenda is a plot that has been hatched and fueled by elements that Brother Nathanael has outlined in other articles. It is an antichrist agenda . . .and seeks to nullify God’s word, and divide his Church on earth, by making homosexuality an “acceptable” lifestyle.

    However, the new Catholic Archbishop of Minneapolis is not allowing them to have their “day of prayer” as in the past — and of course has incurred their rabid hatred and libel statements against him:

    All Christians of all denominations should applaud other Christian leaders who attempt to uphold the tenets of Christian orthodoxy any time they see it.

    A united front is the only thing that will have a significant impact overall when it comes to the rampant spread of evil in today’s world.

  26. AsWas June 25, 2008 @ 5:19 pm

    @ Ed

    Basically we are arguing over how many angels can be stood on a pinhead, since, short of a miracle (the Second Coming?), I am inclined to believe (and I know you will take issue with my pessimism) that there is virtually no chance of our wresting power back from the Zionists in order to put your plan, or mine, into action. I actually think that the only stumbling block to their eventual triumph may be the Islamic takeover of Europe (while Zionists strive to enslave us from above, Islamicists are playing the long-game of demographics – high birth rates and emigration to the West – and they too are winning). But then again, if the Israelis perfect their ethnically selective bioweapons, it may suit them to let Islam finish off Christian Europe before “cleansing” it for their own use.

  27. AsWas June 25, 2008 @ 6:00 pm

    @ the Catholics

    Where did I say that I hate Catholics? In point of fact I don’t even hate Jews (I can’t help feeling that your overreaction mirrors that of Jews, with their cries of “anti-semitism” and “hate-speech” whenever anything Jewish is remotely criticised). Obviously I have some issues with Catholicism or I would be a Catholic, which I am not, but that fact does not equate in any way to hatred towards Catholics.

    If I get time, I will address your other points later.

  28. America, the Beautiful June 25, 2008 @ 7:34 pm

    AsWas, my observation is that you have a fatalistic attitude which denies Faith in Christ.

    So your issues are bigger than particular denominations.

    I believe your Faith will be fostered if you but read and research far more the Early Church Fathers.

    They hold the key to true Christianity.

    The Roman Catholic Church will become even more “catholic” when it once again follows more closely the teachings of the early Church fathers — without excuse or rationalizations.

    So too, Protestants, the more they excavate Earlier teachings from the Apostles, following their Holy Spirit guided Wisdom — the more the Christian Church will find authentic Unity.

  29. Ed June 26, 2008 @ 11:09 am

    Reading back through the insightful posts made by AsWas and America, the Beautiful (also, thank you JenChen and others) it occurs to me that Catholicism, Protestantism and Orthodox Christianity all bring perspectives to the table that collectively make Christendom stronger, not weaker.

    Catholics and Orthodox bring a reverence for the religious fundamentals, and a keen respect for the foundations of Christianity that are essential to maintaining the faith. Protestants (ie Luther) bring an appreciation for the occasional necessity of drastic reform when an institution becomes so hopelessly corrupt over time (which is inevitable of every successful institution due to infiltration, complacency and human nature) that it has betrayed its original mission.

    No single one is either “right” or “wrong”; each brings valuable insights to the Christian whole that make it stronger.

    The problem with Judaism and Islam is that due to their fundamental nature, they cannot be reformed or engineered in accordance with Christian guidelines and the Christian ethos without ceasing existence. And from a survivalist standpoint, then, they cannot tolerate any Christian impositions.

    This is why it is necessary to deport their most fanatical, unassimilable leaders — because they will forever be at war against a Western civilization comprised of group Christendom, and will inevitably make common cause with morally and socially selfish and immature left-liberals in an effort to destroy it.

    This can never be countenanced by Christendom, and truly is a matter of its own survival. There’s no time left for complacency, tolerance of corruption and subversion, or hand-wringing. We’re way beyond that now. Now is a time for action.

  30. Lynda June 28, 2008 @ 5:07 pm

    Frances (June 25)

    Thank you for posting this excellent selection from The Broken Cross by Piers Compton.

    I will certainly read it!

  31. Lynda June 28, 2008 @ 6:04 pm

    AsWas (June 24)

    The Church claims jurisdiction over those who are baptised by the Church. The Church does not claim jurisdiction over the non-baptised.

    Within Western Christendom (now revolutionized and novus ordoized)- the temporal arm did exercise this jurisdiction over nations that had converted as nations (in the 3rd – 5th centuries A.D.)These nations (such as England under Edward the Confessor) were ruled by their monarchs on the basis of the Magisterium of the Church, their paliaments were constituted to legislate on the basis of the Magisterium.

    To be sure, non-baptized populations always lived in Christian nations, but they were not subject to the laws of the Church. The Jewish population, for example, was permitted to practice usury – and this was forbidden to Christians. But they were subject to the laws of the land and there were laws of the temporal arm (bitterly resented to this day) that restrained such populations from using their liberties against the Christian population.

    The English people never voted for new religion (Protestantism) – it was imposed on them by monarchs and their armies together with Masonic revolutionaries of the York and Scottish Rite. And as the majority does – they acquiesced and later conformed their lives into the new order of things.

    The monarch did not wish to rule on the basis of the laws of the Church – particularly the ban on usury. So the Monasteries were closed and all Church property appropriated, the Commons were closed throwing the English villagers into industrial slums. They would become ‘new world settlers’ and the fodder of the Industrial Revolution.

    This is a brief snapshot of the Reformation and Cromwell’s Revolution, the Glorious Revolution and the Industrial Revolution.

    Where is there any respect for the rights of persons and respect for their holy faith?

    In order to establish the Bank of England – there had to be both a Reformation of the Church and a masonic Revolution. In other words to make England the disaster it is today – the Masonic AGENTUR of Zion had to overthrow both altar and throne.

    The post conciliar Vatican II church now based in Rome has manifestly undergone the same Revolution and novus ordoization at level of the Vatican.

    The British Masonic Empire based in the City and controlled through its Zionist Bank carved England away from Christendom. Those who own the Consuls of the Bank of England also own the Federal Reserve of the American Subsidiary. You are a Dreamer, AsWas, if you think Britain “is going to tame its US subsidiary”.

    Rather the occult Directorate of Zion is going to pull the plug on credit through its international banks of issue and bring in an electronic system of trading marks (Charagma)based on Gold. This is because they have used their banks of issue to acquire the Gold. And there are very powerful and scientific reasons why the noble metals are the noble metals – which I will not go into here.

    Please also recall that The City utilized the armies of England to invade Scotland, Wales and Ireland and perpetrated against the people of those nations the Foreclosure of the Commons, the Highland Clearances, The Troubles – a tax on every window of every house in Ireland, every butterchurn, every spinning wheel and tool of trade, the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass outlawed and in Wales they buried entire villages under slag heaps.

    Out of these wars against the English and Celtic peoples, the waves of immigration and War of Manifest Destiny (against the indigenous populations) was driven.

    The Protestant Reformation was a masonic revolution within the Church for liberty to believe whatever you want and equality – get rid of the Apostolic mandate behind the throne. And substitute a new power behind the throne – namely a bank of Zion.

    Only in Christ and a social order founded upon faith in him, and the Apostolic Foundation laid down upon the Testament to Him – namely the Church – are you going to find the true liberty of the children of God. You will not find it in the Enlightenment – so called.

    The Roman Catholic Church elevates the Social Kingship of the reigning Christ over nations and the enthronement of His Sacred Heart – by means of which our Lord intends to rule. Quas Primus defined ex cathedra by Pope Pius XI Dec. 11, 1925.

    Fundamentally, the new world order and its one world ecumenical religion is a doomed enterprise. All this busyness is akin to cleaning the decks of the Titanic or firing the bricks for the Tower of Babel

    Protestant liberty of individual conscience (I’ll believe what I want) for the baptized is fundamentally of a piece with the new world order and was in fact its beginning.

    Our Lady of Guadalupe, you converted the Aztec nation to the Gospel of Our Lord and Holy Church proclaims you Patroness of the Americas, pray for America.

  32. America, the Beautiful June 30, 2008 @ 10:12 am

    Quote from Ed:

    “Catholics and Orthodox bring a reverence for the religious fundamentals, and a keen respect for the foundations of Christianity that are essential to maintaining the faith. Protestants (ie Luther) bring an appreciation for the occasional necessity of drastic reform when an institution becomes so hopelessly corrupt over time (which is inevitable of every successful institution due to infiltration, complacency and human nature) that it has betrayed its original mission.”

    What I hear overall, Ed, is that you believe that Christians (of all stripes, so to speak) should take a “united” front when confronting evil and evangelizing those who do not yet know Christ.

    We can debate the finer issues amongst ourselves, each of hoping to come closer to the Truth via the Holy Spirit.

    Agreeing to be Unified, is not the same as agreeing on every fine doctrinal issue. Of course, we cannot go against our consciences, but all of us must seek to have a well-informed Christian conscience based on holy and scholarly Christian teachings through the ages, originating with Christ and his apostles.

    Without unity we are virtually ineffective.

    I like what Pope Benedict said on the issue:

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