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INTERVIEW WITH PUTIN BANNED - Pt II
By Brother Nathanael Kapner, Copyright 2008-2011

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HERE IS WHERE WE LEFT OFF FROM PART I:

Thomas Roth: But Mr Prime Minister, that is not your decision, that is a Georgian decision.

Putin: Naturally. But we know different precedents.

We remember how the American troops marched into Iraq and what they wished to do with Saddam Hussein because he destroyed some villages of the Shiites. In contrast to this, in just the first hours of Georgia’s invasion, ten villages in S.Ossetia were destroyed, wiped off the face of the earth.

Roth: Does this give you the right to remain not only in the conflict zone but to march beyond that into a sovereign country and to bombard this sovereign country?

That I sit here before you now I owe to sheer luck. For a bomb from your airplane exploded one hundred meters from me in Gori in a residential area. Isn’t it a clear violation of international law that you in fact now occupy a sovereign nation? Where do you get this right?

Putin: We responded within the parameters of international law. The assault on the posts of our peacekeeping forces in S.Ossetia which resulted in the murder of our peacemakers and the killing of our citizens, we have considered without a doubt to be an assault upon Russia.

In the first hours of the fighting, the Georgian armed forces immediately killed several dozen of the soldiers of our internationally-recognized Russian peacekeeping forces. In our southern position, as there were positions of the peacekeeping forces both in the south and in the north, Georgian tanks encircled the lightly armed Russian peacekeeping forces and opened direct fire on them.

When our peacekeeping forces tried to take heavy munitions from the hanger, they were shelled by the Grad rocket stations. Ten Russian soldiers who were still in the hangers were killed on the spot - burned alive.

Roth: Mr Prime Minister…

Putin: I am not finished yet. Then, the Georgian Air Forces attacked various points in S.Ossetia - not in the Tskhinvilli region, but in the center of S.Ossetia itself. We were forced to fire beyond the combat & security zone owing to these air attacks. These were the places where the Georgian troops were controlled from and the operation centers from which our peacekeeping forces & citizens were attacked from.

Roth: But I have told you that residential areas were bombarded by Russia. I experienced this, otherwise I would not have told you. Can it be that perhaps you do not have all the information?

Putin: Perhaps I do not have all the information. Errors during military operation are also possible. Only recently, in Afghanistan, US air forces supposedly engaged in an attack on a Taliban contingent, but destroyed instead, hundreds of civilians who were killed in one strike. This is a first example of military errors.

But the second example is even more convincing. The matter is, that the fire and control posts, the control of the Air Force and the radar stations on the Georgian side, were stationed in residential areas with the aim to restrict the possibility of Russia defending its people in S.Ossetia - using the civilian population - and you - as hostages.

Roth: Well, that is an assumption. Mr Prime Minister, the French Minister of Foreign Affairs, Mr Bernard Kouchner, has expressed grave concerns that the next center of conflict will be in Ukraine. He mentioned in particular, the Crimean peninsula and the city of Sevastopol as the next center of Russian aggression. Is the Crimea the next target for Russia? The seat of the Black Sea fleet?

Putin: He said, ‘the next center of Russian aggression?’ But this is not the case in the Georgian conflict. We were the victims of aggression.

And you say, ‘he next target?’ In the current conflict we had no ‘target.’ Therefore it is misleading to speak of a ‘next target.’

Roth: So you exclude this?

Putin: Allow me to answer and you will be satisfied. The Crimea is not a disputed territory. There is no ethnic conflict there in contrast to the conflict between S.Ossetia and Georgia. Russia recognized the current borders of today’s Ukraine a long time ago. We basically concluded all the negotiations regarding the borders. Only demarcation issues are now being discussed. But these are purely technical issues.

The question about ‘targets’ for Russia only serves as provocation. There within the Crimea, complicated processes are in view: Crimean Tatars, Ukrainian people, Russian people, a Slovak population. But this is an internal problem of Ukraine itself.

With Ukraine we have a contract regarding the docking of our fleet in Sevastopol until 2017. We will be guided by this present Treaty.

Roth: Mr Prime Minister, another Minister of Foreign Affairs expressed his concerns, in this case, the British Minister of Foreign Affairs, Mr David Miliband. He warned of a new - I use this word as his quotation - ‘cold war’ - between Russia and the West. He warned of an ‘arms race’ beginning. Are we now on the border of a new ‘Ice Age?’ What is your assessment of this situation?

Putin: There is a Russian saying: ‘Stop the thief! The one who screams the loudest, he is the thief!’

Roth: The thief, then, would be, the British minister of foreign affairs…

Putin: This is what you say. Excellent! It is a pleasure to converse with you. Remember, you said that.

Russia seeks no provocation, no tension, with whoever it may be. We want good neighborly partnership relations. If you allow, I will say what I think about this.

Look, there was the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact. And there were the Soviet forces in the German Democratic Republic. And we must honestly admit, they were the occupying forces which were left in Germany after the Second World War.

After the collapse of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact, these occupation forces went away. The threat of the Soviet Union is gone. However, NATO and the US forces in Europe are still there. What for? I will tell you what for.

It is to establish order and discipline in their own US-NATO camp - to hold them within ‘bloc discipline’ they need an outside threat. And because Iran is not entirely suitable for this role, there is a strong movement, initiated by the US, to revive the enemy in Russia. But in Europe, no one is scared.

Roth: On Monday the European Union in Brussels meets. It will talk about sanctions against Russia. Do you or do you not care since you say that the European peoples’ voice will not be represented?

Putin: If I would say we do not care, that we are indifferent, this would not be true. Of course we care. Of course we will watch very carefully what takes place there. We only hope that common sense will prevail.

And we hope that an objective and not a politicized appraisal of the S.Ossetian events will be given. We hope that the actions of the Russian peacekeeping forces will be supported. Whereas actions of the Georgian side which performed the criminal actions, we hope will be denounced.

Roth: In this context I would like to ask this next question. How do you solve this dilemma: On the one hand Russia is keen on cooperating with the EU. You cannot act differently given the economic interchange between you and Europe. On the other hand, Russia wants to play by its own rules. How can you satisfy these two issues at once?

Putin: We are not going to play by any special rules. We want all to world to act in accordance with the same rules referred to as ‘international law.’ We don’t want, however, these notions to be manipulated by anyone. In one region of the world, they will obey these rules, in another region, something else rules, only to satisfy someone’s self interests. We want unified rules that check the interests of all participants.

Roth: Do you mean that the EU plays with different rules in different regions of the world which do not correspond to international law?

Putin: Absolutely, how otherwise? How did they recognize Kosovo? They ignored the territorial national integrity attached to Serbia completely, and the UN Security Council Resolution 1244 which they together discharged and supported. There they could do it. But one wasn’t allowed to proceed in such a way in S.Ossetia and in Abkhazia. Why not?

Roth: Does this mean that Russia is the only one who can define international law? That all other manipulate the situation makes it right for Russia to define and dictate international law? Do I understand you correctly?

Putin: You have misunderstood me. Do you recognize the independence of Kosovo? Yes or no?

Roth: Me personally? I am a journalist and it is my job to report.

Putin: I mean Western countries. In fact, all have accepted the unlawful independence of Kosovo. But if you recognized it there, then you must recognize it here - the independence of S.Ossetia and Abkhazia. There is absolutely no difference. No difference at all. This is an invented difference by the West.

There it was an ethnic conflict - and here is an ethnic conflict. There, it was crime on both sides. And here, probably we can find it. Probably we can find it if we ‘dig.’ There the decision has been taken that these two people cannot live together in one state - and here they do not want to live together in the same state. There is no difference at all and everybody realizes this. This is all twaddle for the West’s unlawful decisions to cover.

This is the law of the jungle and Russia cannot agree to this. Mr Roth, you have been living in Russia for a long time and you speak perfect Russian, nearly accent free. That you have understood me I am not surprised. I am very pleased. Now I would like our European colleagues who will meet on September 1 to talk about this problem, to understand all of this.

Was the UN Resolution 1244 adopted? Yes, it was adopted. Was the territorial integrity of Serbia explicitly mentioned? Yes, explicitly. It was then, in their recognition of the independence of Kosovo, that Resolution 1244 was thrown into the trash. They simply forgot it in spite of our many protests.

They tried to re-interpret it. Turn it inside-out. It was impossible to wiggle out of it — so they simply forgot it. Why? They had orders from the White House and all have obeyed.

If European nations continue with this policy of obeying orders from the White House, then we will just go straight to the source of their policies and of all European affairs, and negotiate with Washington!

To Be Continued
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For More See: “Interview With Putin Banned - Read It Here! (Pt I)” Click Here

And: “Is Putin A True Christian Leader?” Click Here

And: “Putin’s Next Move” Click Here


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15 Comments

  1. admin September 12, 2008 @ 4:45 pm

    PLEASE HELP WITH HEAVY EXPENSE IN TRANSLATING THIS INTERVIEW

    Dear Commenters & Readers,

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  2. admin September 12, 2008 @ 4:51 pm

    HELP WITH NEW WEB SITE COSTS:

    Dear Friends - The Anti Defamation League, that wicked Jewish Organization who despises our US Constitution, has gotten to my 2nd Web Hosting Co and muscled them with their Jew money and powerful influence to shut Real Jew News down. This is the 2nd time this has happened in a 1 month period.

    The first time was by the wicked Jew organization known as the Simon Wiesenthal Center. PLEASE KNOW everybody, that these 2 Jew organizations, are wickedly ANTI CHRISTIAN. They HATE the Lord Jesus Christ and continue to persecute those who stand up for HIS TRUTH.

    The ADL is known for calling the New Testament, “hate speech.” But the ADL is FULL of HATE for all Gentiles and Christians. May the Lord Bring His Judgement upon the Jews of the ADL! Especially that Anti Christ Jew, Abraham Foxman, the leader of the Racist & Extremeist Jew organization.

    The ADL is also ANTI AMERICAN. The ADL MUST be shut down if America is ever going to be a free nation again. These Jews of the ADL, Abraham Foxman at the lead, are ENEMIES of the United States of America.

    Much expense has gone into hiring an expert to get Real Jew News running again after being shut down for 3 days. Please consider helping as I STILL have to pay the expert to FIND another Web Hosting Company that won’t cave in the wicked Jews of the ADL.

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  3. CIVILIAN DEATH MACHINE September 12, 2008 @ 5:45 pm

    Thanks Brother N.!!!

    Great Translation!

    Your hard effort is most appreciated!!!

    PM Putin is telling it, exactly as it is…

    even with respect to admitting of killing innocent civilians around the Georgian military targets….

    when was the last time, Bush said anything of the sort?

    and what about Putin’s comments regarding dealing directly with The White House with respect to European Affairs? BRILLIANT!!!

    …or his comments about the former “Soviet Era”, being an occupying force?

    OH MY!!! How ‘the times’ have changed for Russia!!!

    God Bless President Medveded and PM Putin!!!

    Hopefully, coming to a town near you and I to get rid of the zionist communists that infest the halls of Wall Street, London, Jerusalem and the US Senate/Congress/White House!

    To those who read my comment….do not be misinformed….Wall Street supported the financing of the Russian Revolution!!!

    …as well as the Nazi War Machine!

    …and Stalin’s ‘Reign of Terror’!

    Communism is the idea of Marx and Enghels….but financed by the Merchant New York Banks!

    Eisenhower censured General Patton…..who wanted to go ’straight to Moscow’ after Berlin…

    Patton was a Hero!!!

    McCain? No….

    Bush? No….

    Obama? No….

    Clinton? No….

    Biden? No….

  4. admin September 12, 2008 @ 6:24 pm

    Dear Civilian -

    Thanks for your encouraging words.

    And thank you to all my dear Readers who were sore distressed to see Real Jew News shut down for 3 days.

    But we’re back! (For now anyways…) DO PRAY!
    +BN

  5. james1 September 12, 2008 @ 7:17 pm

    @CIVILIAN DEATH MACHINE

    Also 1 1/2 million Cossack forces were captured by allies after WW2 put in concentration camps, tortured and sent back to the USSR.

    Soviet officials who dealt with the Germans after WW2 and in its satellite states were Jewish including Soviet officials at the Nuremburg trails.

    Putin, Medvedev and other Russian officials are quite good speakers minus Putin’s response to the Kursk sub sinking that’s why they lie and take his comments out of context and misrepresent them.

    ADL,FSWC have went over the top now trying to get you barred from the internet altogether. This can’t be legal.
    What about free speech covered in the constitution?
    Is there not a contract with the web hosting company?

  6. Jim DeTexas September 12, 2008 @ 7:38 pm

    Dear Bro Nathanael,

    Here is an idea, seek a server in Russia that the ADL can’t touch. A server is a server and having one over there will protect you and your message. I will look into locating one for you. Any server you set your site on in this country or Canada will have to bow to the evil jews and thier warped since of justice. I’ll get back to you on the results. Thanks again for your persistence.

  7. admin September 12, 2008 @ 8:05 pm

    Dear james1 and Jim DeTexas -

    I had spoken with some high classed trial lawyers when I was in Los Vegas at the behest of a sponsor there for the Los Vegas Street Evangelism trip.

    I was informed by them that INDEED what the Simon Wiesenthal Center did to me was an illegal INTERFERENCE with a valid business relationship and that I COULD take them to court.

    There is only one problem - I am not wealthy like the wicked Jews of the Simon Wiesenthal Center and the ADL are. The wicked Jews USE THEIR MONEY to lie, to cheat, to corrupt, to BRIBE. Just like they did to the soldiers who were guarding the body of the Lord Jesus Christ.

    The WICKED JEWS bribed the Roman guards to say that the apostles stole the body of the risen Lord Jesus Christ. Do you all see the root of Jew wickedness? It is their DEICIDE! Now they kill, destroy, deny the rights of ALL MEN.

    St Paul was RIGHT, he said in the book of Thessalonians, “The Jews are CONTRARY to all men!” Just plain WICKED JEWS of the SWC and the ADL and all who do NOT repudiate their ANTI AMERICAN ways! (Most Jews).

    As regards a new Web Hoster, please dear Jim, let me know who you can find. It’s only a matter of time that the WICKED JEWS get to my new Web Hoster and they BOW TO THE JEWS for “fear of the Jews.” +BN

  8. Erko September 12, 2008 @ 9:28 pm

    There is a Russian saying: ‘Stop the thief! The one who screams the loudest, he is the thief!’

    We should all memorise this saying. From Jewish atrocity claims to the present day, you can’t understand political history without it.

  9. Bubby September 12, 2008 @ 11:24 pm

    I think Mr. Putin is right. Next time European affairs should be discussed with Washington. How sad that Europe has fallen to the dictatorship of the US.

  10. Concrete man September 13, 2008 @ 5:20 am

    End times with Sarah Palin?

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10167

    Christian Fundamentalism Permeates the Republican Party: Sarah Palin’s links to the Christian Right

    I know Brother Nathanael did some writing on this topic in defense of Palin (and indeed most of the attacks on her by the Dems or the Media have been strawmen and red herrings), but I think from what I have been reading since that Palin is riding in on a pale horse, she is not a shining knight.

  11. Jim DeTexas September 13, 2008 @ 5:35 am

    This makes it a holy war.

    Haram al-Sharif or the ‘Temple Mount’ is a
    platau on Mt Moriah which contains two Muslim’s shrines ( Dome of the Rock and Al Aska Mosque ). The Jews say these shrines were built over a Jewish Temple. They say these shrines should be destroyed and a Jewish temple built on the land.

    Story……Here

  12. Rick September 13, 2008 @ 11:25 am

    Brother Nathanael, though I rarely comment, I am a regular reader. REALJEWS is an invaluable information resource into the machinations of our Zionist rulers. Their attempts to shut REALJEWS down is evidence that what you write is the truth. Their evil must be exposed and defeated. You are doing your part. All we who love freedom and love our country must join in. A check is in the mail. I encourage others to do likewise.

  13. Jim DeTexas September 13, 2008 @ 5:56 pm

    2 Concrete man,

    That is very intence, more so then the zionist taking over. I do not think there are 100,000 million zionist on the planet. So when McCain kicks the bucket Sarah steps in with Nancy moving on up, we have the Queen Jew Zionist and the Queen of the soldiers? At that point the immortal words of G.W. Jr (”if your not with us, your against us”) become more dangerous, not only to the Foreign Christians but also to domestic Christians. This chess game seems to gain more players and strategy as each day passes.

    Keep the faith……

  14. Christopher R September 15, 2008 @ 7:41 am

    Hello Brother Kapner!
    I know ¨those people¨ are bothering you a lot and causing you much suffering, but count it all joy to suffer as Christ suffered. Jump for joy, as Jesus said. Do not let them overcome you with anger and hatred. Otherwise I am afraid your health might suffer as did Bobby Fisher who recently passed away (may he rest in peace). Take care.

  15. arab mulim August 13, 2010 @ 6:18 am

    Greetings to all.

    The reasons for Arab-Israeli conflict is the occupation of Palestine.

    Palestine Arab Islamic state like the rest of the Arab and Islamic states surrounding
    them. Means that there are Jews and Zionists in Palestine a big mistake, because this entity
    Zionist is not consistent with the surrounding area (such as language, customs, traditions and religion)

    The only solution to end the Arab-Israeli conflict is the expulsion of Jews from Palestine.
    All of Palestine. The Jewish people will not rest and will not feel comfortable and stability
    unless they get out of Palestine and the Middle East completely.

    If people continue to support Jews in Palestine and the Middle East, the death and destruction will continue.

    Palestine Arab state and will remain.

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