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  1. Brother Nathanael October 25, 2011 @ 3:00 pm

    Text — Text — Text

    The Meaning Of Icons
    By Brother Nathanael Kapner
    Copyright 2011

    Every generation brings forth a symbolic figure – an Icon – representative of a nation’s aspirations and ideals.

    In the early 60’s, John F Kennedy appeared as an Icon of post-war America’s youth, vigor and optimism.

    Later came Ronald Reagan, an Icon of America’s military might and imperialist agenda.

    Today, Barack Hussein Obama, has been fashioned, that is, hyped, by his Jewish Madison Avenue Gimmick man, David Axelrod, as an Icon of Change that no one believes of him any longer.

    Negative symbols in recent days include Bernie Madoff, an Icon of Wall Street greed, and George Soros, an Icon of Jewish financial power.

    And Icons justifying endless Zionist wars are the Jewish media’s portrayal of incarnations of evil: Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden, and the latest boogeyman who opposed Zionist globalism, Muammar Gaddafi.

    America’s ideal of youth and vigor, portrayed by Kennedy, collapsed with his assassination in Dallas…and America’s aspirations of imperialist might abroad, portrayed by Reagan, has morphed into a malaise of pessimism at home.

    The idea of an Icon – a symbol that brings its beholder into a higher reality – was introduced to the world long before today’s so-called heroes and anti-heroes appeared.

    It was the ancient Eastern Orthodox Church that transported its Faithful through the sacred symbol into a mystical experience of an other-worldly realm.

    The Icon of Christ brings the beholder into a deep connection with the power of the reigning King.

    The Icon of the Holy Virgin brings the beholder into the mystery of the union of divinity with humanity.

    And the Icons of saints brings the beholder into the possibility of establishing the Kingdom of heaven on earth.

    Surely the false and negative Icons of our day, whether it’s Obama, Soros, or Madoff – or the pseudo-religious Icons of Wiesel and other ‘Holocaustianity’ figures – have left the American people bereft of virtue, true religion, and wholeness.

    Only a return to the Christian roots that made our nation pregnant with possibilities – something which we all so sorely crave and yearn for – can America be again admired around the world as an Icon of Light!

  2. Brother Nathanael October 25, 2011 @ 3:02 pm

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  3. Fola October 25, 2011 @ 4:03 pm

    “The Image of THE Beast”

    The word rendered image, is the Greek word EIKON – “A likeness, representation or a resemblance. To be like, resemble, an image or likeness.”

    “The Image of The Beast II – ‘No Man May Buy Or Sell”

  4. LEE October 25, 2011 @ 4:10 pm

    Brother Nate:

    I do not know what to make of any of this stuff.

    I have also heard of people denouncing you as a shill as well.

    What is going on?

  5. Fola October 25, 2011 @ 5:25 pm

    @LEE October 25, 2011 @ 4:10 pm

    Your comment is very puzzling.

    How could some one who did not know what to make of any of this stuff, possibly understand the concept of a shill ?

    It seems that you have, by way of the contradictory ideas put forth in your brief comment, blown your own cover.

  6. Brother Nathanael October 25, 2011 @ 5:57 pm

    @LEE – People say many nasty things about me. Who cares?

    I CONTINUE the work Christ has called me to! +bn

  7. Svenn October 25, 2011 @ 6:48 pm

    You’re a modern day Saul turned Paul. God bless.

    I will send some $ next pay check/promise. Svenn

  8. john king October 25, 2011 @ 10:08 pm

    Bro Nathanael a shill?? For whom?

    I think that since the ADL once publically referred to Bro. N. as a “rabid anti-Semite” we should accept him at his word as dedicated Christian soldier.

    The internet is a place where vicious accusations are made. Since you can say things anonymously, it’s probably the only place where you can slander people and get away with it scot free.

    If there are detractors reading, let them make their accusations here. To those reading, I implore you to go to the “online collection plate” and throw in a few bucks or whatever you can afford.

    Every week Bro N. is back with an article and video in which he further slays the Jewish beast. If you like what you see here, just imagine what he could do if he was properly funded.

    Unlike the Jews in Wall Street we can’t print money out of thin air. So, please help out. Freedom is not free. We are in a spiritual war and the implements of battle cost.

  9. Joe Jones October 25, 2011 @ 11:56 pm


    You are telling the people good info. But you could be leading the people to slaughter.

    Now I have read about a lot of this stuff and I like the fact you spoke of the Holocaust, because you really need to hit the Jews hard on things that are taboo.

    But Brother, would any Jews follow a Klansman or Nazi? Do the Jews allow any Goyim to speak at meetings like in Basel, Switzerland in 1895?

    People have been telling us about the Jews for a long time.

    I’d like to know how we destroy them and take away their power.

    Sure if all the poor people quit working or we all attacked them. But the Jews use every trick in the book.

  10. TH October 26, 2011 @ 1:52 am


    People say that you’re a shill also.

    I’ve heard what Brother Nathanael has to say with facts to back his point of view and, so far, I cannot fault it.

    I’ve also heard what you have had to say and it amounts to zero.

    So, the score is

    Brother Nathanael + 1

    LEE – NIL

    Funny thing though, some even say you live in Australia.

  11. abhijeet October 26, 2011 @ 2:52 am

    Going to a voting booth to vote for the political establishment designed and owned by the elites is not democracy.

    If someone wants to break free from controlled Left/Right paradigm, he or she won’t be allowed to be in politics anymore.

    JFK tried that, and there was that mafia-style assassination.

    Elections are big advertisement for fooling people into thinking that they have democracy.

    We are not voting on any issues that would impact us directly. We are just sending to office an individual just like we have done so many times in the past.

    It’s not a participatory democracy in any sense what so ever. Now-a-days, elections are used as a cover for hiding the fact we do not have democracy.

    We have a “brutal dictatorship” at the hand of financial elites.

  12. Larry Dunn October 26, 2011 @ 5:39 am


    What do we do about the Jews?

    The Israelis probably got a virus or disease they are going to unleash on us that attacks certain genomes.

    They’ll just start another war. What should be done with the rich Jews like the Rothschilds?

    Brother, are you going to tell me that being Jewish as nothing to do with race?

    Why is it I can pick out if a person is Jewish or not?

    Now Brother, when I look at you I can’t tell, but I see a lot of Nordic and that viking blood. Were you from Iceland?

    I’d like to think a Jew (someone who walked out of synagogue) and into the church.

    What do we do next? Do we censure Jews or that is not the answer?

  13. Stav October 26, 2011 @ 5:44 am

    Just perfect Br. Nathanael, in every way!


  14. Tommy Tyler October 26, 2011 @ 6:11 am


    Let’s look at how many people the Jews have killed in all their wars.

    What about Communism? What the heck was that all about? What was Communism suppose to accomplish? Since we learned how the Communist killed people should we assume the same thing is occurring in Chinese as we speak? If the government knows that very same thing is going on in China why are we even dealing with them?

    Very strange why we don’t deal with Cuba. I mean we let the Communists do what they wanted with those people. I’d like to know what it was about. Those Commies committed a lot of crimes over there, but we hear nothing.

    Why are we in the Arab people’s business, but let the Chinese do as they wanted. The only explanation I can come up with is the Jews control our country.

    Should the Arabs adopt Communism that kills millions, because we keep atttacking them for supposedly killing people in their country? Can you see how people could be frustrated? I mean we fought to destroy Germany when they could have destroyed Communism.

    Then there were Jews who wanted to sterilize all Germans under 45. They even wanted to liquidate all the Germans. Did anyone think that the Communists, since they had taken four countries, didn’t have their sights on Germany? Could it be the Germans stopped the Communists from advancing any further West?

    The poor Germans, if they had sat back and did nothing, the same thing would have happen to them as the Jew Communists did to the Poles. So the Germans decide to fight the Communists, and either way they are losers.

    Could it be safe to assume if America stayed out of WWI that Communism would have never gotten started? Then we went back to defend it and then fed the Germans. I mean why didn’t we just let them take all of Europe? We did nothing for 25 years, why not just let the Communists have all of Europe?

    We could have easily whipped the Communists. They took some of our men and sent them to Siberia. Why did we let them take a third of Germany and then feed the West and act like we were the saviors?

    I know FDR and Eisenhower were Jewish. I’ve read a lot about it, but I never really learned why we let the Commies murder those people for so long. Then sent troops to Germany? Why did we let them take any part of Germany?

    I read that the Jews were considering trying out Communism on the United States, but then opted for Russia and that the Cold War was nothing more than the Jews backing both sides and would have joined the side that looked like they were going to take control.

  15. Sean October 26, 2011 @ 6:51 am

    Great video! Very insightful. These are tough times.

    They might even lead us to a Mormon President in 2012! Could this lead to a Mormon theocracy in America? I only read a handful of blogs consistently – yours, Henry Makow and To me they’re they’re the gutsiest and most spiritually relevant.

    Cutting Edge is interesting because it acknowledges America’s and Israel’s intertwined destinies but shifts more attention to Freemasons and Jesuits and their centuries old roles in creating the global mess we’re in, versus Jews. The site also investigates the possibility that biblical end times prophecies are happening right now!

    Hard to wrap our minds around, but the analysis is compelling. Best of luck and continued great work going forward!

  16. Brother Nathanael October 26, 2011 @ 7:47 am

    @Larry Dunn

    Well, this is the first time someone said that I look like I’m “Nordic” and it’s a REAL FIRST that someone thinks I may have “Viking” blood.

    When I see myself in these Videos I often say out loud to myself, “Boy, do YOU look Jewish!”

    Well, why not? Both my parents were Jews and both their parents were Jews and on and on…

    BUT, I do not believe that race per se determines *behaviour* as it does certain aptitudes and talents.

    That said, BECAUSE Jews “racially” all have the DEICIDAL CURSE upon them, then that DOES determine behaviour which begins with their satanic denial of Jesus Christ as the Jewish Messiah.

    IN MY CASE, (and in the case of many other Former Jews who are part of the Eastern Orthodox Church), BAPTISM wipes out the Deicidal Curse and creates a NEW MAN in Christ Jesus.

    I am now a NEW CREATION in Christ — an Orthodox Christian — and THAT has changed everything in my life INCLUDING my behaviour so long as I keep Christ’s Holy commandments and my Baptismal Vows to FOLLOW HIM as HIS disciple.

    +Brother Nathanael Kapner
    Former Jew, NOW an Orthodox Christian
    Russian Church Outside Russia (ROCOR)

  17. Kalif October 26, 2011 @ 7:58 am

    “Unconditional war can no longer lead to unconditional victory. It can no longer serve to settle disputes. It can no longer be of concern to great powers alone. For a nuclear disaster, spread by winds and waters and fear, could well engulf the great and the small, the rich and the poor, the committed and the uncommitted alike.

    Mankind must put an end to war, or war will put an end to mankind.”

    – John F. Kennedy

  18. David October 26, 2011 @ 9:06 am

    Beautiful video! The new format is exceptional!

  19. Joshua October 26, 2011 @ 11:41 am

    Speech made by John F. Kennedy about Secret Societies:

    “The very word secrecy is repugnant in a free and open society, and we are, as a people, inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths, and to secret proceedings.

    “We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweigh the dangers which are cited to justify them. Even today there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions.

    “Even today there is little value in ensuring the survival of our nation, if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be siezed upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment.

    “That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control, and no official of my administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes, or to withhold from the press or the public the facts that they deserve to know.

    “For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence. On infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerillas by night instead of armies by day.

    “It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.

    “Its preparations are concealed not published, its mistakes are buried not headlined, its dissenters are silenced not praised, no expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed.

    “No president should fear public scrutiny of his program. For from that scrutiny comes understanding, and from that understanding comes support or opposition, and both are necessary.

    “I’m not asking your newspapers to support an administration, but I am asking your help in the tremendous task of informing and alerting the American people, for I have complete confidence in the response and dedication of our citizens whenever they are fully informed.

    “I not only could not stifle controversy among your readers I welcome it. This administration intends to be candid about its errors, for as a wise man once said “an error doesn’t become a mistake until you refuse to correct it.”

    “We intend to accept full responsibility for our errors and we expect you to point them out when we miss them. Without debate, without criticism no administration and no country can succeed and no republic can survive. That is why the Athenian law maker Solon decreed it a crime for any citizen to shrink from controversy, and that is why our press was protected by the first amendment.

    “The only business in America specifically protected by the Constitution, not primarily to amuse and entertain, not to emphasize the trivial and sentimental, not to simply give the public what it wants but to inform, to arouse, to reflect, to state our dangers and our opportunities, to indicate our crises and our choices, to lead, mold, educate and sometimes even anger public opinion.

    “This means greater coverage and analysis of international news, for it is no longer far away and foreign, but close at hand and local. It means greater attention to improved understanding of the news as well as improved transmission; and it means finally that government at all levels must meet its obligation to provide you with the fullest possible information outside the narrowest limits of national security.

    “So it is to the printing press, to the recorder of man’s deeds, to the keeper of his conscience, the courier of his news that we look for strength and assistance confident that with your help man will be what he was born to be: free and independent.”

  20. vladimir October 26, 2011 @ 1:08 pm

    What we do about the Jews?

    Under the US Constitution and the Declaration of Independence the citizens, and the states there-of, remain the ultimate legal authority.

    People must recognize this, talk about this with their families, friends, neighbors, co-parishioners and have the courage to engage in extensive civil disobedience against federal authority, as the “Occupy Wall Street” crowd has done. That is is how Martin Luther King started (and don’t anyone start in denying the greatness of that man!)

    Anything short of “rebellion” and violence against persons and property can in fact be asserted and defended legally. Local Municipalities, Local Governments, all the way up to the State level must take on the Federal Government through concerted class actions and friends-of-the-court actions, like happened with the Spitzer vs US Treasury (sorry that I cannot seem to come up with the actual case name nor how it ultimately resolved in the Supreme Court).

    In the USSR (I know: “Boo, Hiss, Hiss”) political education was mandatory, although there all it amounted to was brainwashing the citizenry and cementing the power structure. But, this does not negate the need for political education, being informed politically being required of you along with your debate, and solidarity.

    It can be done. Cmon, it was done in Poland and you know all the Polish jokes ! All it takes is a little determination like deciding finally to clean out your closet.

  21. vladimir October 26, 2011 @ 1:34 pm

    Martin Luther King effectively challenged the segregationist South.

    That role has now been quite obviously transferred to the Federal Government which by its very composition being preponderantly Jewish should smack any White American, or any non-Jew for that matter, that they are being discriminated against and segregated in parallel to what occurred with Blacks in the post Civil War South.

    Martin Luther King has demonstrated that direct challenge to this is the only way, even though he paid with his life and his effort petered out, but for different reasons.

  22. Ján Garaj- Slovensko October 26, 2011 @ 1:54 pm

    Brat Natan!

    Som zo Slovenska a nerozumiem Anglicky. Nech Vam zehna Panboh! Prosim Vas neviete nieco napisat o zidovskej vlade na Slovensku ? Meciar, Dzurinda, Radicova, Fico, Lipsic a vsetci Zidia, co vladnu Slovensku? Ktory a ako su sluhami sionistov?

    Ako mam bojovat proti tomuto zlu u nas pod Tatrami?


    Jan Garaj

    [Google Translation:

    Brother Nathan!

    I am from Slovakia and understand Anglicky. Nech heaven bless you!

    I beg you not know something [?] to write about Jewish government in Slovakia? Meciar, Dzurinda, Controller [Radicova], Fico, Lipšic and all the Jews, the Government of Slovakia? Which and how they are servants of the Zionists?

    How do I fight this evil in our country under the Tatras?

    Thank you

    Jan Garaj]

  23. fRED October 26, 2011 @ 7:32 pm

    Great video +Bro. N.


    October 25, 2011 @ 4:10 pm

    Brother Nate:

    I do not know what to make of any of this stuff.

    I have also heard of people denouncing you as a shill as well.

    What is going on?”

    How do you answer a question like this? Lee, are you “naïve?” Do you not know anything about Christianity? Are you a babe in Christ? Or are you a “Fifth Columnist” that sows discord?

    What Brother Nathanael could have went on to say is icons are, and have been, an important part of the Church since its inception. The mystery of the Eucharist is the best example. The bread becomes the Body of Christ and the wine becomes the Blood. It is a church sacrament and a mystery of presence of the Trinity.

    What needs to be pointed out is the blasphemous ways the icons of Christianity have been used; a figure of Christ in a jar of urine. A crude picture of a Madonna (representing Mary) is smeared with elephant dung.

    Madonna routinely uses Christian iconography in her concerts using crowns of thorns, pierced hands, and crosses. What blasphemy. Being raised Catholic I doubt whether she will stand blameless. I have read where she has converted to Kabbahism which is where she belongs (among the damned).

    +Brother N could have gone 100 ways with this. In my take (and I do not speak for him) he was simply trying to provoke the faithful to be mindful of the icons of the Church and what they represent.

    The Jews and the damned continually assault them and degrade them. Let us be mindful that if you just go around pigs, you get slop, mud, and poop on you!

    The “Word of God” washes and regenerates us and removes the filth of the world from us! Let us continue to honor the Word and use the icons to remind us of the power of Christ and that the corporate Church will prevail through the grace of our God through the Lord Jesus Christ.

    +Brother N said it best in this thread….

    “I am now a NEW CREATION in Christ — an Orthodox Christian — and THAT has changed everything in my life INCLUDING my behaviour so long as I keep Christ’s Holy commandments and my Baptismal Vows to FOLLOW HIM as HIS disciple.” AMEN and AMEN!

    Peace in Christ

  24. Halina October 26, 2011 @ 9:04 pm

    @ TH

    October 26, 2011 @ 1:52 am

    “Funny thing though, some even say you live in Australia.”

    I know you addressed Lee and I have no problem with it except the last line in your comment. Can you tell me what is wrong with living in Australia?

    I might take it as a personal affront because I live there too.

    Have been living for many years and am grateful to Australia for taking me in and escaping Martial Law and Judeo-communism regime in Poland.

    Following are recent events taking place in Australia:

    Occupy Melbourne – Police Brutality – World Wide Revolution

  25. Caveman October 26, 2011 @ 9:23 pm


    An interesting quiz for all RZN readers:

    1-Google: LCFR

    Most relevant site: “Edmond de ROTHSCHILD Limited”

    2-Google: CFR

    Most relevant site: “COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS”

    What do they have in common? We all know here!

    Just take out the vocals from the word “Lucifer”, voilá LCFR, CFR !

    This is really an ICON OF EVIL, they openly admit to being the high priests of SATAN!

    But their master is a CREATURE, he was CREATED by the Triune God, and his rebellion will end in the LAKE OF FIRE AND BRIMSTONE.


  26. Fola October 26, 2011 @ 11:19 pm

    @Halina October 26, 2011 @ 9:04 pm

    Thank you for the update of the happenings “Down Under.”

    As you are probably well aware (being in the ‘vicinity’) the Indonesian Government has come down hard on Papua separatists.

    This so called “movement” is truly vast.

    Factoring in “nuclear dirty Japan,” and the armed rebellion in the Philippines, things are exploding in the Asian Pacific as well as across the Middle East, Europe, and the U.S.

    The very strange enigma that I observe, is that Police brutality is being orchestrated, and it is being emphasized by the media.

    Yet, understanding that these ‘revolutions’ are being organized, funded, and co-ordinated by the Jewstablishment, it stands to reason that there is much more going on than meets the senses.

    The ‘White Horse’ humanitarian mantra of the Jewstablishment has called for either concessions, reform, or total regime change in every instance where these Authoritarian excesses have been demonstrated (with the exceptions of those oppressors already incorporated in their agenda).

    If this is the modus operendi of the Jewstablishment, do you not suppose that some changes in governance are in the wings for Australia, Europe, and the U.S. as well ?

    The panorama of this momentum is so vast, that it brings to mind some ideas from Apocalyptic scripting.

    Revelation 13:1, “And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and I saw out of the sea a beast coming up, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon its horns ten diadems, and upon its heads a name of evil speaking,”

    Revelation 17:15, “And he saith to me, ‘The waters that thou didst see, where the whore doth sit, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.'”

    Our ‘world’ is in the flow and flux of tremendous changes. Many say that ‘The Best’ will come in peacefully in many aspects. Yet it will trample and rend and tear all opposition. Are we not possibly seeing both of these extremes in the spectrum being manifested together now simultaneously ?

    “When you see these things coming to pass, know that your redemption draweth nigh”

  27. Vocner October 27, 2011 @ 12:43 am

    A Question for Brother Nathanael,

    This is off the topic but why are Muslims embracing Jesus as a prophet and not the son of God?

    Why do they deny the fact that all the prophets are of Jewish heritage?

    Whenever I have discussions about religion they seem to spew forth their distorted version of Christ and denounce our Lord’s divinity and sacrifice.

    They seem to believe that Muslims existed before Mohamed and that all Jewish and Christian beliefs are wrong or misguided.

    Brother can you shed some light on this subject and give me ammunition to use against their wrongful beliefs?

  28. Halina October 27, 2011 @ 1:28 am

    New World Order: Implantable RFID chips capable of remotely killing non-compliant ‘slaves’ are here:

    Sometimes I wasn’t sure what to think of this man, but this time he seems to make sense:

    David Icke – Essential Knowledge For A Wall Street Protestor

    On a cheerful note Norman Finkelstein tells a joke about Israel:

    “A journalist goes around and asks a Russian, a Pole and an Israeli the same question.

    He first goes to the Russian: “EXCUSE ME, WHAT’S YOUR OPINION OF THE MEAT SHORTAGE?”

    The Russian says: “WHAT’S AN OPINION?”

    The reporter then goes to the Pole: “EXCUSE ME, WHAT’S YOUR OPINION OF THE MEAT SHORTAGE?”

    The Pole goes: “WHAT’S MEAT?”

    He then goes to the Israeli: “EXCUSE ME, WHAT’S YOUR OPINION OF THE MEAT SHORTAGE?”

    The Israeli replies: WHAT’S EXCUSE ME?”

  29. Fola October 27, 2011 @ 1:29 am

    Dear +BN,

    Would it be possible please for you to explain, or, compare and contrast, the elements of interpretation, and application, within the framework of Orthodoxy of Icons.

    We are, most of us, familiar with Western Religious Artwork. Yet there is an observable difference between these, and the Icons of Orthodoxy.

    Do Orthodox Christians interpret Icons in any way different than other Christians would interpret religious artwork ?

    Here are two examples of the same subject, The Virgin Mary and the Christ Child. They are both similar, yet different. One is a Russian Orthodox Icon, and the other is Raphael’s Madonna and Child from the Sistine Chapel in Vatican City, Rome.

    An Orthodox Icon of The Blessed Mother and Christ Child.

    A Western Christian Madonna and Christ Child.×707.jpg

    Thank you much .

  30. Kwai Chang October 27, 2011 @ 9:13 am

    Hello Everyone…

    Re: “Shill” accusations…the guilty dog always barks first…

  31. Brother Nathanael October 27, 2011 @ 9:30 am

    @Vocner –

    Much of Islam is a “mix” of Judaism and Christianity.

    It borrows from Judaism the idea of a lone NON-Triune God and from Christianity the person of Jesus Christ in his humanity only as well as the Holy Virgin.

    Thus Islam denies the divinity of Christ as does Judaism and only incorporates some “attractive” features of the person of Christ in his humanity NOT His divinity.

    St Gregory Palamas (an Orthodox Christian saint) of the 14th Century when captured by the Muslim Turks began an extensive dialogue with them on this issue.

    He made the succinct observation to them (for which he was beaten) that “if any preach another Christ than what was delivered (by St Paul and the apostles) then let him be anathema.”

    +Brother Nathanael

  32. Brother Nathanael October 27, 2011 @ 9:34 am

    @Fola –

    For a succinct comparison of Byzantine Iconography with Western art please read Photios Kontoglou (a recognized master of Iconography of the 20th Century.)

    “What Orthodox Iconography Is”
    by Photios Kontoglou @

    It’s a quick and easy read. +BN

  33. Fola October 27, 2011 @ 10:36 am

    Dear +BN,

    Thank you so very much for your timely response, both to my question and Vocner’s.

    I feel as if I have really learned something, especially in your concise overview of Islam.

    Your ‘link’ on Orthodox Iconography explains the answer to my question very well. It seems to be an expansion of the brief statements from your video.

    I especially comprehended this idea:

    “Western religious painters who wanted to depict the supernatural visions of religion took as models certain natural phenomena — clouds, sunsets, the moon, the sun with its beams. With these they tried to portray the heavenly glory and the world of immortality, calling certain things “spiritual” which are merely sentimental, emotional, not spiritual at all.”

    In vain, however. Because the blessedness of the other life is not a continuation of the emotional happiness of this world, neither does it have any relation to the satisfaction the senses enjoy in this life. The Apostle Paul, talking about the good things of the blessedness to come, says that they are such that “eye hath not seen, and ear hath not heard, neither have entered into the heart of man.”

    How, then, can that world, which lies beyond everything a man can grasp with his senses — how can that world be portrayed by an art that is “natural” and that appeals to the senses? How can you paint “what surpasses nature and surpasses sense”?

    I have had little to no exposure to Orthodox Christianity, and yet find it very compelling.

    Thanks again !

  34. Fola October 27, 2011 @ 11:03 am

    Treachery !

    The USrael is now indicated in treacherous betrayal in the circumstances surrounding the murder of Colonel Quadafi.

  35. Halina October 27, 2011 @ 6:39 pm

    Hillary and her gang wanted him DEAD!

    “We came, we saw, he died” :

  36. Fola October 27, 2011 @ 7:22 pm

    @Halina October 27, 2011 @ 6:39 pm

    I find Clinton to be such a repulsive hag of long standing, that I never wanted to watch her video statement concerning Colonel Quadafi’s demise; for, he stood as the antithesis of every vile thing that Clinton is.

    I clicked your link, and watched her very hurriedly, I can’t stand even the sight of her.

    Then after I closed the page, and reflected momentarily, I decided to gird up the loins of my observation and watch it once more.

    It was then that I realized that she resembled some creature other than a human being.

    On the third viewing, I caught it completely. The body language, and especially the smile at the end. She looks like a damn FROG !

    Then I remembered this:

    Revelation 16:

    13 “and I saw [come] out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs —

    14 for they are spirits of demons, doing signs — which go forth unto the kings of the earth, and of the whole world, to bring them together to the battle of that great day of God the Almighty; — “

  37. Halina October 27, 2011 @ 8:50 pm

    October 27, 2011 @ 7:22 pm

    I agree 100% with you on your description of Hillary Clinton.

    She certainly is a repulsive frog.

    Her joyful reaction to the news of Qaddafi’s death made me sick as much as the images of him being captured and tortured.

    Below is what I would like to see happening all around the world.

    These people set a perfect example:

    Moldovans tear down JEWISH menorah & put up cross:!

  38. Fola October 27, 2011 @ 10:19 pm

    @Halina October 27, 2011 @ 8:50 pm

    Thanks for the link Halina. I remember when that wonderful day occurred in Moldova. +BN did a story on it, he made an exclusive at the time.

    I agree with you 100%. It seems to me that the Orthodox Christians are more stable in their faith, and, have a much keener understanding of the Antichrist nature of the Jews.

    Perhaps their first hand experiences under the Bolsheviks has given them an indelible memory of Jew horror.

    I’m afraid that is one lesson, regrettably, that the Americans have not learned enough of yet; but, also regrettably, it appears that they will learn it, and hard, in the not too distant future.

    I see that +BN has a new video up ! I’ll see you on the next page.

    Christ grant you, and all faithful, the grace of knowledge and perseverance for the days ahead.

  39. Apocalypse 25 October 28, 2011 @ 6:40 am

    Also, it is definitely a sad day that “change” has become strange and perverse.

    Under “Barack” Obama, this nation has taken an unprecedented course. That killer Ronald Reagan would have been proud to see this nation involved in more gutless slaughter of the world’s population. Thank God, that fool Reagan was killed and died in a slow and torturous death that he fully deserved.

    JFK was a great man and he was killed for simply following the Constitution and trying to place the nation back on the gold and silver standard demanded by the constitution. Yet, his life and blood was used to seal the alliance between White elites and these so-called Jews.

  40. Kalif October 28, 2011 @ 6:30 pm


    “This is off the topic but why are Muslims embracing Jesus as a prophet and not the son of God?”

    The Qur’an asserts the existence of a single, absolute truth that transcends the world; a unique being who is independent of the creation; a real being indivisible into hypostatic entities or incarnated manifestation. According to the Qur’an:[3]

    “Say (O Muhammad): “He is God, (the) One, The Self-Sufficient Master, He begets not, nor was He begotten; And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him.” (Sura 112:1-4)

    “Thy Lord is self-sufficient, full of Mercy: if it were His will, He could destroy you, and in your place appoint whom He will as your successors, even as He raised you up from the posterity of other people.”(Sura 6:133)

    “Why do they deny the fact that all the prophets are of Jewish heritage?”

    Prophets of Islam – With the exception of Prophet Muhammad (SAW) all the rest are Jews.

    “They seem to believe that Muslims existed before Mohamed and that all Jewish and Christian beliefs are wrong or misguided. ”

    The first Muslim Prophet is Adam (PUB) – Adam (Adam), Prophet, Leader and Patriarch for the Children of Adam.

  41. Brother Nathanael October 28, 2011 @ 8:13 pm

    @Kalif –

    It appears that the sublime is too high for you to attain.

    God is not a LONE god outside the universe as you and Jews would have him as their REACTIONARY TALMUD (against Christianity) would have it.

    God appeared as TRIUNE in the Old Testament and Christ REVEALED Himself, His Father, and The Holy Spirit, as ONE GOD in THREE INTER-PENETRATIONAL PERSONS.

    The ESSENCE of the Universe is thus COMMUNITY and not LONELINESS.\

    And by the way, Adam was NOT a Muslim prophet! Just Ridiculous! GIVE ME AND ALL OF US A BIG BREAK!

    END OF DISCUSSION. We are here to focus on the Jewish Problem NOT Islam.

    Moderators Take Notice. This is the END OF THIS DISCUSSION. Period!

    +Brother Nathanael Kapner
    Former Jew, NOW an Orthodox Christian
    Under the TRIUNE GOD!

  42. Hoff October 28, 2011 @ 10:41 pm

    Homo sex is the Jews “icon.”

    Why the Jews promote homo sex – by Hoff

  43. Snowy Smith South Africa November 1, 2011 @ 3:13 am

    @ john king

    Since the ADL once publicly referred to Bro. N. as a “rabid anti-Semite” we should accept him at his word as dedicated Christian soldier.


    If the ADL is pissed off with Bro Nathanael then he is definitely telling the TRUTH.

    If the ADL is demonizing Bro Nathanael then he is definitely telling the TRUTH.

    Everything posted by Bro Nathanael on this web site I have investigated thoroughly and found the info to be 100% correct and very informative.

    Thank You, Bro Nathanael.

    Snowy Smith
    Senior Complaints Investigator
    Fair Civil Law

  44. Hoff November 1, 2011 @ 8:05 pm

    All Christian supporters of Israel need to see this! This was broadcast on Israeli State TV – mocking Jesus, Christianity, and calling Mary a whore.

  45. ConstantineNYC November 5, 2011 @ 4:21 pm

    Even though everything is true here, us Orthodox Christians are loving and forgiving.

    During Holy Friday our priest even blesses the synogogue with the myrrh water as we walk by it, located around the corner from St. John the Baptist in Manhattan.

    You should see how the Jews run away in the hallways when our priest does it. Like we are throwing something bad at them.

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