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  1. Brother Nathanael October 23, 2010 @ 7:44 pm

    Dear Real Zionist News Family –

    I just got back this afternoon from NYC Street Evangelism and I am VERY PLEASED with the results!

    Many thanks for your prayers and thoughts… What a comfort it is when I am out on the Streets to know that my “family” is supporting me! May Christ Bless You All!

    I have been working on this Video since I got home with alternating snow and rain but after many takes the Vid looked like a gimmee.

    Hope you like it and the message speaks to you! (It really speaks to me…)

    Okay, gotta run, pray, get some grub, and GO TO BED!

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    Much Love In His Holy Name, +Brother Nathanael

  2. USSA TODAY October 23, 2010 @ 8:10 pm

    Brother Nathanael has a way of putting current events into a crystal clear perspective in contrast to the Communist-Zionist media and political oligarchs who love for the American public to only have a dim, murky view on reality.

    Pray God would restore this Nation to the good sense of it’s Christian roots otherwise, we’re relegated to the ash bin of history.

  3. john king October 23, 2010 @ 8:36 pm

    Dear Bro. Nathanael,

    Everytime I hear someone, whether in my midst or some “Christian” Zionist preacher speak about our “Judeo-Christian” heritage, I want to vomit.

    I grew up just a few miles outside the Colonial Triangle of Jamestown, Williamsburg and Yorktown in southeastern Virginia. I’ve been to the buildings that many of our founders frequented, even sat in pews in Bruton Parish Church (Williamsburg) where they sat.

    If somebody had dared say “Judeo-Christian” to them, their heads would have spun. This country had a Christian founding and a founding as an EXTENSION of Europe in the New World.

    I have been expelled from 2 “Tea Party” groups so far and all they talk about is economics.

    They are JUDEO-Christian and putting the Judeo first shows whose #1! And it ain’t our Lord and Saviour.

    Tea Party “leaders” are telling people NOT to talk about Cultural Issues. I can cite numerous examples to prove this. Watching Tea Party people march in DC made me very angry. It seemed all of the slogans on their signs were written on a 4th grade level. “Mommy, I want my freedom back!”

    I once went to a Tea Party event here in town. I came with a 2′ x 3′ flow chart of the Federal Reserve, showing all of the Zionist banks that own it. And yes, there were small Jewish stars by each bank building.

    Are these Tea Party people this uneducated or do they live in fear of the Jew? It seems most people live in a culture of fear. That is the purpose for all this fake terrorism and endless wars.

    Aleksandr Soltsenitsyn wrote that “A state of war serves only as an excuse for domestic tyranny.”

    It’s easier for these Judeo-fascists to steal our freedoms while TV coverage of a war on CNN/FOX has us distracted. But since friends direct friendly criticism at their friends, my only gripe Bro Nat is that you didn’t keep railing on after you mentioned the Immigration Law of 1965.

    You are quite correct to call 1913 a “Jewish Revolution” but 1965 with its “Immigration Reform Act of 1965” was like the ship United States hitting an iceBERG.

    Because of this law, which ended decades of NON-immigration, the US has gone from having a definite European population (90% in 1960) to one in which Europeans now just barely hold the majority. In fact this year marked the first time that there were more non-European births than European births.

    No, the Tea Party will not dare talk about this. I tried and I died. Well, I got the boot.

    The Tea Party is a Jewish Trojan Horse. Most Tea Party groups are affiliates of several Tea Party Corporations. I can’t name them all here. But in my town of Jasper, In, the Tea Party group is an affiliate of “Tea Party Patriots,” an Atlanta area corporation.

    What do we know about corporations? Whoever owns the most shares controls them.

    IF YOU LIKE WHAT I’VE WRITTEN, don’t thank me. Make a donation to Brother Nathanael.

    If it wasn’t for him and HIS forum, you wouldn’t be reading this. Literally! Freedom isn’t free.

    I’m not a millionaire and neither are you. But we need to help, whatever we can afford.

  4. john king October 23, 2010 @ 8:45 pm


    Richard Miller, Chairman


    The Tea Party is a Jewish Trojan Horse. The Tea Party is Economic only. For the most part, Tea Party people are Class Elites interested in only their class and not their Race, Culture or Traditions.

    The Tea Party is made up of people who get together on weekends, complain, scream, but when push comes to shove will not act for real change, because a True National Community will impact their lazy and decadent lifestyles.

    The Tea Party is a distraction/Trojan Horse to assure that foolish people are kept in line by way of what I call, “Actless Rhetoric.”

    Within the Tea Party Trojan Horse are Jewish Interests laughing at the foolish Goyim who think they are today’s Patrick Henry, George Washington, and Ben Franklin, all of whom knew and wrote of the danger of the Jews to the new nation they had created.

    The Tea Party does not address the issue of our Culture and Race – Why?

    Because it is lead by and or guided by the same Jews or their Gentile “useful idiots” whose mission is to assure there is no REAL Organized opposition to the current System, which is NOT SUSTAINABLE.

    Make no mistake about it, the Tea Party people are just a programmed as those they say they oppose.

    The Tea Party presents NO opportunity. It is just as its name says it is, a Tea Party, a Social Club, like the Rotary Club or Chamber of Commerce, and who are the Members of these Entities? Not the Real People.

    Jew Special Interests are using the Tea Party like a pet owner uses a ball of yarn with his/her cat, keeps the Cat busy, then the cat gets board or tired and goes off and licks itself until it falls asleep.

    And when it awakes, it has forgotten what it was doing the day prior.

    Our problems are Social, directly relating to Race and the War on our Culture, Traditions, and Society by Jews using their pawns of which the Tea Party is one.

    We hear it’s the Muslims that hate our way of life, quite the opposite; the Jews hate Western Culture and Civilization and have a record of hundreds of years of attacking it.

  5. Disgusted White Christian October 23, 2010 @ 9:05 pm

    John King, yes this is true.

    I often thought right from it’s inception the “Tea Party” was a Zionist Jew ruse.

    Just look at the so called celebrities present at the Tea Party march on DC.

    Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin and John Hagee: three Zio-Jew puppets that would sell all our children down the river in WWIII for Israel, in a TEAcon minute!

    It is an elaborate hoax, just like Tex Marr with this Obama stuff, suddenly our savior against the Zionist Jew. Yeah right!

    Like he said, these people will not even mention the words “Jew” or “Zionist” when it comes to American politics, when the whole world knows the AIPAC lobby runs Washington DC and our country.

    It’s like the old story of the Chinese emperor, that comes out naked, and the people were so afraid of him, NO ONE DARE SAID A WORD.

    I am telling you now, all of you, it will take an ACT OF GOD to wake these mind-controlled, cowardly puppets out of the Zionist induced abyss!


  6. USSA TODAY October 23, 2010 @ 9:36 pm

    “The best way to the control the opposition is to lead it ourselves” – Lenin

    I call it The Tea and Bagel Party. I told my local “Tea Party” Leader about The Rothschilds running the Fed and the Khazars history and he said that was, “All that Henry Ford type of thinking.”

    I told him about A REAL Patriots books author Boston T. Party –

    My Tea and Bagel Party Leader told me to remove him from my e-mail list.

    Folks, the “Tea Party” is like the Communist-Zionist, AIPAC boot licking, shabbus goy, Gingrichite, Neo-Con Contract With America. It’s a false hope, diversion, and pressure release valve for mass white, European, Christian anger.

    A real movement would be infiltrated, overthrown, or otherwise dealt with.

    If you disagree about the Tea Party being a Zionist joke, go watch Glen Beck, Hannity, and O’Reilly on Jewpert Murdoch’s Neo-Con Zionist Faux News. I can’t help you.

  7. Jerry October 23, 2010 @ 9:44 pm

    A very interesting comment concerning a newly found diary by Harry Truman on the Zionist Jews.

    Very enlightened and a must read.


  8. Brother Nathanael October 23, 2010 @ 10:05 pm

    Let’s try to stay ON TOPIC everyone.

    Heads Up! … Moderation Team! +bn

  9. KathJuliane October 23, 2010 @ 11:05 pm

    Greetings in the Lord Jesus, Bro. Nathanael,

    Very sobering content this time.

    Which way, Christian America?

    Pick yourself up, brush yourself off, shake the the dust off your sandals in the face of the Jews and their damnable usury.

    It’s going to take awhile, but we can get out of this trap and downward spiral, with faith in our Lord Jesus Christ, prayer, sober-mindedness, frugality and self-denial, moderation in all things, committment to the good and to excellence, and cultivating patience and endurance to weather out this coming thickening storm.

    Choose today, Christian America, which one you will serve – our Lord Jesus Christ and His Church, or the Jewish Mammon and the Synagogue of Satan.

    A great priority must be to overthrow “Christian Zionism,” and kick off the hind teat that crappy little “only democratically elected” lunatic asylum in the Middle East.
    Letter to Samuel Kercheval

    Thomas Jefferson
    June 12, 1816

    […]I have thrown out these as loose heads of amendment, for consideration and correction; and their object is to secure self-government by the republicanism of our constitution, as well as by the spirit of the people; and to nourish and perpetuate that spirit.

    I am not among those who fear the people. They, and not the rich, are our dependence for continued freedom. And to preserve their independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt.

    We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude.

    If we run into such debts, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds, as the people of England are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four, give the earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses;

    And the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they now do, on oatmeal and potatoes; have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account; but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers.

    Our landholders, too, like theirs, retaining indeed the title and stewardship of estates called theirs, but held really in trust for the treasury, must wander, like theirs, in foreign countries, and be contented with penury, obscurity, exile, and the glory of the nation.

    This example reads to us the salutary lesson, that private fortunes are destroyed by public as well as by private extravagance. And this is the tendency of all human governments.

    A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for a second; that second for a third; and so on, till the bulk of the society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery, and to have no sensibilities left but for sinning and suffering.

    Then begins, indeed, the bellum omnium in omnia, [the war of all in all] which some philosophers observing to be so general in this world, have mistaken it for the natural, instead of the abusive state of man.

    And the fore horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression.

    [Jefferson and all of the American Fathers must be rolling over in their graves!!]

    Re: 1947 Truman Diary

    Look for July 21, 1947 entry

  10. Orthodox Values October 24, 2010 @ 12:43 am

    Thank you for this site.

    Some weeks ago, I read a comment posted by a reader who had been shocked by the ruthlessness of Jewish financiers in New York.

    I would like to add two stories of my own. Where I live, we are fortunate that there are many of these cultural parasites and my experiences have all confirmed that they are openly hostile towards Christianity.

    I have recently read a detailed, academic text on the history of the Weimar Republic. It shows the repugnant moral decline of the era once Jews controlled theatre, cabaret and finance and began to introduce their fringe theories, such as psychoanalysis.

    Today, they do the same under the guise of “marginalisation,” attacking our traditional literary canon as being solely the work of “dead white males.” I am sure that “dead white males” like the many great Irish writers who suffered so much under the English would be bemused to know they were part of a powerful elite.

    Jewish thought infests our universities with the self-indulgent theories of post-structuralists. Look at the names of the leading thinkers; many of the most influential, who have caused such devastation in academia, are Jewish, such as Susan Sontag, Judith Butler and Jacques Derrida.

    The self-indulgence and arrogance of these writers have caused many talented young students of literature to throw in their careers in despair, thinking themselves stupid and not seeing the fraud of their deliberately obscurant rubbish.

    This site has documented before the moral degradation in Hollywood but I would also like to point out that, in Britain, the BBC entered its period of decline when Michael Grade, another Jew, became director.

    Christian morals campaigner Mary Whitehouse constantly stood up to him when he broadcast such lurid filth as a Roman soldier having erotic fantasies about Our Saviour on the cross. That one woman had more strength of character and conviction than most Britons and sought to stop the Jewish attack on our Christian society.

    Now for my own experiences. As mentioned above, I will discuss just two of my own encounters with Jews.

    One was a former military intelligence officer. He quite openly admitted to me that his role was to tell lies to brainwash his own soldiers so that they would hate Saddam Hussein. He showed no remorse for this action, just bemusement that the military men were so naive and easily led.

    Of course, stirring hatred, particularly against Islamic nations, is all part of the game. I do agree that those in the military are weak-minded. They blindly follow orders and listen to this tripe that is fed to them. Their moral radars are firmly switched off.

    The second Jew was a man named Brian Forte, whom I know works, or did work, at Red Hat, the Linux software firm. Red Hat seems to be one of the few firms on the NY exchange not dominated yet by Jews and this Brian Forte did not have a particularly important role.

    Nevertheless, he was disloyal to his company, constantly ridiculing their software and deriding it, even in front of other employees on one occassion.

    Here is an article written by him, at the end of which he derides Red Hat’s product:

    What a treacherous employee!

    Brian Forte is the archetypal Jew: brash, neurotic and downright deceitful. He did have a strong intellect but it was marred by his eccentricities. He also holds an open hostility towards Christianity as we will see in the next article.

    Here is a piece attacking Gibson’s Passion of the Christ:

    So even when the Catholics held out an olive branch with the Second Vatican Council, this was not enough for him. He sees things purely in terms of friends and enemies, with enemies never to be forgiven, no matter the huge overtures towards reconciliation.

    His smug comment about ‘good will to all [people who look like me or at least dress like me and use the same civil calendar]’ shows just how supercilious he is.

    It is interesting that he mentions the decline of religious understanding throughout “Christendom” when it is precisely the Jewish-led secularisation of the academic system that has caused this decline.

    Where now is theology, the “queen of sciences” and once the pinnacle of studies? Not even taught at universities anymore. No longer is the priesthood the end result of studies. This is one of the great tragedies that has led to our terrible decline in the west.

    So how do we counter these problems? No matter how terrible these Jews are, they need our prayers. We can only pray they will find and accept Jesus and repent of their collective sins.

    What of their power over media, education and the money markets?

    We must always turn the other cheek. Christians are humble and should never lust for power.

    However, we can stand firm and protest these injustices and draw attention to them, just as this site is doing. Once all are aware of the cultural and spiritual decline of our society, we can work together to peacefully arrest it and welcome repentant Jews into the Orthodox family.

  11. David October 24, 2010 @ 1:03 am

    Unfortunately far to many Americans are lost.

    Lost in drugs, video games, self absorption and lost in a sea of misinformation that spews out of the Media.

    60% do not vote, we can see videos of Americans at Walmart who trample people to get to the new pieces of plastic made in far away places.

    We can also videos of Americans walking over dying people not even bothering to call the police.

    There are also so many lost in false Christianity metered out by tele-evangelical Demons.

    The Lost are everywhere in America.

    The few voices of salvation are drowned by a tsunami of screams from the victims of Demons on the streets of America.

    If only Americans had listened to the voices warning them in the 60’s .

    But alas, there may be battles to yet win, but the war is another lost cause on the string of lost wars America has fought.

    From the war on Poverty and the Just Society of LBJ, to the war on the Innocent people of Iraq, there has only been a rape of the purse of Americans and all were prolonged and guided to maximize the profits of the rich.

    It is said that America is the richest nation on earth, I would like to ask where does it spend all the money?

    Certainly not in USA where many of the cities look more bombed out than Baghdad.

  12. Ben Parker October 24, 2010 @ 1:39 am

    RE: Video The Destiny of America

    Brother Natahanael: Concerning the above named video, if it is important could you make a transcript of it available?

    Some of us have dial-up, and for those who do, video doesn’t work so well.

    Thanks for any response.

  13. Ellipser October 24, 2010 @ 1:51 am

    Let me make a prediction.

    The Tea Party will gain ground in the future, possibly even make it into the White House.

    Only it won’t take as many years for the average American to realize the Tea Party is nothing but a wolf in sheep’s clothing and may even turn out to be worse than all others combined.

    The entire system is one big commie+mafia owned outfit = with alot of satanism on the side.

  14. Glory B. October 24, 2010 @ 4:00 am

    Excellent post, KathJuliane.

    Christian Americans are being bamboozled by the money-loving, Christ-hating, satanic Jews, and we have too many “stars” (read Jewish stars) in our eyes to do anything about it.

    Surely we have better uses for our hard-earned money than to line Jewish pockets and waste our dollars on the crypto-fascist, neo-communist IsraHELL of the Middle East.

    I favor cutting the Isreali kikes off entirely from our foreign aid and military aid. Let them rely 100 percent on their American Jew-backers, and see how fast they fall into line.

    Jews really understand only one thing, and that is the power of money. The fastest way to kill a Jew is to take away his “gelt.”

    The Jews killed Jesus Christ and they have never repented of that awful crime, and they still haven’t paid the full price that God has planned for them.

  15. Fr. John October 24, 2010 @ 5:57 am

    Br. Nate:

    I cried tears of joy when I heard you say this.

    As a child who went to parochial school before Kennedy was assassinated, this sort of speech was the backbone of our entire education.

    It only disappeared after the 1960’s, and the orchestrated destruction of our culture by the Hippies, Yippies, Jews like Abbie Hoffman, etc.

    I heard my dear, deceased Mother speak once again, in your words.

    Thank you, Thank you. Thank you.

    Many Years. AXIOS.

  16. Jerry October 24, 2010 @ 7:31 am

    Some food for thought.

    Given what is written in Rev. 18 especially vrs. 7

    “I sit as a queen; I am not a widow and I will never mourn.”


    Vrs. 17

    “Every sea captain, and all who travel by ship, the sailors, and all who earn their living from the sea …

    And one needs to ask if this isn’t a perfect description of New York. I know some tend to think that it is Jerusalem {Ted Pike}, but how can that be given the description of her being a port city and an extremely wealthy one at that!

    No port in the entire world is more valuable than New York’s. She is also the power center of the world as was Babylon!

    Furthermore being a mix of peoples {multi-culturalism} from practically every nation under the sun and wasn’t ancient Babylon similar and the reason for her being called Babylon?

    I however, especially like the description of vrs. 7 and her sitting like a queen. If that doesn’t bring to mind that great lady of the masonic empire, the Statue of Liberty, I don’t know what does.

    So some food for thought and look how that glorious chapter ends vrs. 20 and 24.

  17. It works October 24, 2010 @ 7:32 am

    I am very intelligent but I have a regular western European personality.

    You have to tell me something directly several times before I comprehend but then I never forget it.

    Hints to people in Ireland and England will not work. You MUST tell them directly and not pull any punches.

    Use terms like DEMONIC to describe the Jews. Appeal to them by mentioning their families.

  18. Disgusted White Christian October 24, 2010 @ 8:18 am

    “Folks, the “Tea Party” is like the Communist-Zionist, AIPAC boot licking, shabbus goy, Gingrichite, Neo-Con Contract With America. It’s a false hope, diversion, and pressure release valve for mass white, European, Christian anger. ”

    My man USSA Today, you are fabulous, one of the best posters I have ever seen. This is exactly what the Tea Party is: a Zionist ruse, for Goyim to go dream, there is someone, or something out there for them.

    More “Zionist Opium” for stupid gullible Goy!

    Just look at Bro Nate’s thread on Sarah Palin, where she received, thousands of applause, from these sheep (Tea Party) when she was screaming about “we need to lower taxes.”

    Like Nate pointed out, she would have us in an instant war with Iran, that not only would double our taxes, but kill thousands of young Christians, named John, Tyrone, Jose, Peter, no Shlomos, Sauls or Aris there?

    Orthodox Values, Yes, I read about Mary Whithouse, truly a courageous women. Yet you see entertainers like Roger Waters, (Pink Floyd) mock her in songs, “Hey you Whitehouse, ha ha charade you are.”

    Well, the chickens come home to roost for Waters, he was just attacked for showing
    bombs with Stars of David on them being dropped on Gaza in a video. He also had crosses on them, yet no outcry about that?

    Also on the “Irish poet” thing, remember by the mid 1800s, Jews already controlled England, Rothschild, Montefiores, and their little arrogant puppet, Benny Disraeli.

    I think they (Jews) were responsible for starving the Irish during the potato famine in the mid 1800s? They did it about 3/4 century later in the Ukraine (Holodomor) under Lenin and Stalin.

    Here is a link, Orthodox Values, you will enjoy from John Tyndall, which he suggest the Zionist Jews have infiltrated the BNP.


  19. Fr. Joseph October 24, 2010 @ 9:18 am

    Quoting from the on-line, in-the-public-Worldwide-Internet-domain reference webpage:

    “+Father Manuel Rocha, a native of Portugal, was the assigned translator for Professor Walsh for the interview noted above. He reports a detail that makes it even more clear that ALL OF US are at risk if the Consecration of Russia is not done in time. To continue what Mr. Walsh reported above, we quote:

    “‘But she (+Sr. Lucy) said more than once, and with deliberate emphasis: ‘What Our Lady wants is that the Pope and all the Bishops in the World shall Consecrate Russia to Her Immaculate Heart on one special day. If this is done, She will convert Russia and there will be peace. If it is not done, the errors of Russia will spread through every country in the world.’ (Professor Walsh) ‘Does this mean, in your opinion, that every country, without exception, WILL BE OVERCOME BY COMMUNISM?’
    (+Sister Lucy) ‘YES!’ (Our Lady of Fatima, 1947, page 226).

    “+Father Rocha testified that Mr. Walsh wanted to be positive about the answer of +Sister Lucy, and repeated the question adding, ‘and does that mean the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TOO?’ +Sister Lucy again answered, ‘YES!’ (This is reported in the book ‘The Wonders She Performs’, 1986, page 160.”

    – +Fr. Joseph

  20. rachel October 24, 2010 @ 9:36 am

    Most of the “modern religions” can be traced to ancient Sumeria. Many of the tales, such as the story of Moses and Adam and Eve might be traced to Sumeria as well.

    Christians have been hoodwinked into thinking modern Judeo-Christian religion is the same religion when in fact Jesus Christ was not Jewish IMHO, nor do the Jews recognize Jesus as being one of theirs.

    Meaning, Christians and Jews are totally separate and not connected in any way, shape or form.

    The Jewish religion is the religion of death as Br Nathanael once said. The Christian religion is the religion of love and hope.

    America embraced money and death over love and hope in 1913 when the Gov. sold us out.

    100,000 million people have died as a result of war along in the last century. And the wars continue to this day. Wars are financed by banks…hence the Zionist Jews. Hate and death cult.

    The plus side to the end of the economic ideals is the return of the ideals of our Forefathers. Liberty and independence.

    Everyone knows we are being lied too by the media, by the government and they are seeing a blatant security line form around Israel. They call it anti-Semitism but we call it anti-Zionism.

    I am have come to believe the Jewish god and the Christian God are not the same God.

    Therefore Judeo-Christianity is the Trojan Horse…the Tea Parties are just a distraction.

  21. Jerry October 24, 2010 @ 10:02 am

    Concerning the billion dollar arms deal to Saudi Arabia, another very interesting and none too important talk about what is really behind it.

  22. Disgusted White Christian October 24, 2010 @ 10:03 am


    The “Jewish God” is Satan, not the Spirit that gave Moses the 10 commandments.

    There is no such thing, rachel, as a “Christian God” a “Muslim God” ? There is just the God of all humanity, who sent His Son to die, so that you may once live again!

    Remember rachel, Satan’s name “Lucifer” means “light bringer,” or “light bearer.” He failed, and brought DARKNESS, what his children: Zionist Jews still propagate is DARKNESS.

    Where Jesus tells us in the New Testament:

    “I am the way, I am the truth, I am the Word of God, I am the Life, and I AM THE LIGHT of the world.”

    Jesus brought light and life, Satan brings darkness and death!


  23. Nina October 24, 2010 @ 10:10 am

    *** The Destiny of America Video transcript for Ben Parker and others on dialup:***

    The enduring power of a nation must be based on an idea that inspires its people with super-personal content.

    Ever since the Judaic Revolution of 1913 which installed the Federal Reserve Bank, America has been based on an economic idea, a Jewish system where money is the only value of human life.

    This economic idea neither inspires nor elevates beyond individual gratification, which today is experienced by only a few.

    For the icons of America’s economic idea is limited to the figures of Jewish supremacy, whether Ben Shalom Bernanke appearing on the cover of Time magazine or Paul Krugman appearing on television giving investment advice on CNN’s Money Matters.

    Indeed, money does matter to these stockbrokers and shareholders whose investments are stored in the highrises of Goldman-Sachs regional headquarters not on Wall Street, but located in Shanghai and Mumbai, where the matter of money is everything and the matter of American jobs and American families is nothing.

    America needs a new idea now that America’s economic idea has been shipped overseas by Jewish financiers.

    When Joe Biden visited Israel last spring, upon being presented by Netanyahu a picture with broken glass shattered on its frame, the humiliated Biden was still able to manage the utterance of America’s new credo: “America has an unbreakable bond with the nation of Israel.”

    And it sounds over and over again like a broken record. In other words, the only bond that holds us together here in America is that which binds us to the higher power of international Jewry.

    As President of the Brother Nathanael Foundation, we are engaged in binding to a greater idea than the Zionist creed.

    For the roots of America’s potential future is planted in Christendom’s great idea of building Christ’s kingdom on earth.

    Simply read the early colonial charters of Rhode Island, of Maryland, of Massachusetts, where the vision of the white European settlers was to build a nation for “the glory of Jesus Christ.”

    And this idea inspired and gave impetus to the impregnation and the propagation of that race that would be the bearers of Christ’s kingdom on earth, which gave no place to those who opposed its King.

    The destiny of America is now at a crossroads.

    Unless we resist the Judaic insurrectionists that brought to us the Open Immigration Law of 1965 that began the final onslaught of white America, then the American destiny will read like an American obituary.

  24. Fr. Joseph October 24, 2010 @ 10:23 am

    Quoting from the in-the-public-domain reference ‘To The Priests, Our Lady’s Beloved Sons’:

    “#437 – Malvern (Pennsylvania, U.S.A.) – November 15, 1990 – Spiritual Exercises in the Form of a Cenacle with 3 Bishops and 250 Priests of the MMP from United States and Canada

    “The Hour of the Great Trial”

    “Beloved sons, today I want to tell you of the joy and the comfort that my Immaculate Heart feels in seeing you gathered together in such numbers in these, your spiritual exercises, which you are carrying out in the form of a continuous cenacle. You have come from almost all the states of this country of yours, from Canada and from other countries of Latin America.

    “You are gathered in prayer, offering together with me, by the recitation of the entire rosary, by your listening to my word, by a solemn holy hour of eucharistic adoration, and by the concelebration of holy Mass, always presided over by a bishop, during which you renew your act of consecration to my Immaculate Heart.

    “You have also wished to make more intense your act of love and reparation to JESUS present in the Most Holy Eucharist, by your nocturnal adoration, so pleasing to me and blessed by me, because it has given great comfort and joy to the eucharist and priestly HEART OF JESUS.

    “And now, I announce to you that THE HOUR OF THE GREAT TRIAL is on the point of arriving.

    ” – THE GREAT TRIAL HAS ARRIVED FOR YOUR COUNTRY. How many times, as a concerned and sorrowing mother, have I endeavored to urge my children to follow the path of conversion and of return to THE LORD.

    “I have not been listened to. You have continued to walk along the way of rejection of God, and of His Law of Love. Sins of impurity have become ever more widespread, and immorality has spread like a sea which has submerged all things. Homosexuality, a sin of impurity which is agianst natur, has been justified; recourse to the means of preventing life have become commonplace, while abortions – these killings of innocent children, that cry for vengeance before the Face of God – have spread and are performed in every part of yoru homeland.

    “The moment of Divine Justice and of great mercy has now arrived. You will know the hour of weakness and of poverty; the hour of suffering and defeat; the purifying hour of the great chastisement.

    ” – THE GREAT TRIAL HAS ARRIVED FOR YOUR CHURCH. Those errors which have brought people to the loss of the True Faith have continued to spread. Many Pastors have been neither attentive nor vigilant, and have allowed many rapacious wolves, clothed as lambs, to insinuate themselves into the Flock in order to bring disorder and destruction.

    “How great your responsibility, O Pastors of the holy Church of God! You continue along the path of division from the Pope and of the rejection of his Magisterium; indeed, in a hidden way, there is in prepartion a true schism which could soon become open and proclaimed.

    “And then, there will remain only a small faithful remnant, over which I will keep watch in the garden of my Immaculate Heart.

    ” – THE GREAT TRIAL HAS ARRIVED FOR ALL HUMANITY. The chastisement, predicted by me at Fatima and contained in that part of the secret which has not yet been revealed, is about to take place. The great moment of Divine Justice and of mercy has come upon the World.

    “For this reason I have wanted you here. You must be the apostles of these last times. Go out everywhere and proclaim with strenght and courage the Gospel of JESUS. Walk along the path of contempt for the World and for yourselves. Illuminate the earth in these times of great darkness. Cause the rays of the light of your faith, of your holiness and of your love to come down upon the World.

    “You have been chosen to combat courageously against the power of him who places himself in opposition to CHRIST, in order to obtain, in the end, my greatest victory.

    “Leave this cenacle in confidence; leave in joy and in great hope. I am with you. I am manifesting myself by means of you. I will work prodigies in you, so that all will be able to see my light and feel my maternal presence.

    “Together with your dear ones, together with the souls which are entrusted to you, I bless you all + in the Name of the Father, + and of the Son, + and of the Holy Spirit.”

    – +Fr. Joseph

  25. Fr. Joseph October 24, 2010 @ 10:32 am

    Quoting from the on-line, in-the-public-Worldwide-Internet-domain reference webpage:

    “February 13, 1994….The message is serious. Read the message given by my Son on February 6th. It is part of the message FOR THE UNITED STATES, and this message is also FOR THE WORLD. Please do not disregard these words.

    “Febrary 6, 1994 Message From JESUS…

    “When you have pushed My Mother aside, I tell you, you have pushed Me aside too. My Mother stands with Me. When you push God aside, then you shall suffer the consequences.” 13, 1994

    – +Fr. Joseph

  26. KathJuliane October 24, 2010 @ 10:58 am

    Which Way, America?

    We are not so far gone that we cannot find our way back to “the super-personal idea” and faith and traditions of our Founding Fathers who dedicated themselves and trusted in our Lord Jesus Christ.

    “Forsaken Roots

    by Dave Gillis

    “Did you know that 52 of the 56 signers of The Declaration of Independence were orthodox, deeply committed Christians? The other four all believed in the Bible as the divine truth, the God of scripture, and His personal intervention.”

    “Immediately after creating the Declaration of Independence, the Continental Congress voted to purchase and import 20,000 copies of scripture for the people of this nation.”

    Patrick Henry, who is called the firebrand of the American Revolution, is still remembered for his words, “Give me liberty or give me death.”

    “But in current textbooks the context of these words is deleted. Here is what he said:

    ‘An appeal to arms and the God of hosts is all that is left us. But we shall not fight our battle alone. There is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations.

    ‘The battle sir, is not of the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death.’

    “These sentences have now been erased from our textbooks.”

    “Was Patrick Henry a Christian? These are the words he wrote shortly before his death:

    ‘I have disposed of all my property to my family. There is one thing more I wish I could give to them, and that is the Christian religion. If they had that and I had not given them one cent, they would be rich. If they have not that, and I had given them the world, they would be poor.’

    “Was George Washington a Christian? Consider these words from his personal prayer book:

    ‘Oh, eternal and everlasting God, direct my thoughts, words and work. Wash away my sins in the immaculate blood of the Lamb and purge my heart by the Holy Spirit.

    ‘Daily, frame me more and more in the likeness of thy son, Jesus Christ, that living in thy fear, and dying in thy favor, I may in thy appointed time obtain the resurrection of the justified unto eternal life.

    ‘Bless, O Lord, the whole race of mankind and let the world be filled with the knowledge of thy son, Jesus Christ.’ ”

    In 1782, the United States Congress voted this resolution: “The congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.”

    Much more including the now banished daily school prayer —

    Dave Gillis website – What’s Wrong With This Country?:

  27. KathJuliane October 24, 2010 @ 11:21 am

    Purging the Memory of our Christian Roots
    By Berit Kjos – March 2, 2009

    How America lost its way & freedom

    …Such [children’s] books may soon be forgotten — banished by a law that prohibits the sale of children’s books published before 1985.

    The justification for such an outrageous decree is that the print might contain a tiny amount of lead. Yet, testing books for lead is prohibitively expensive.

    According to an article titled, The New Book Banning,

    “no one seems to have been able to produce a single instance in which an American child has been made ill by the lead in old book illustrations — not surprisingly, since unlike poorly maintained wall paint, book pigments do not tend to flake off in large lead-laden chips for toddlers to put into their mouths.”[5]

    Could political goals have prompted this specific ban? I don’t know. [see note]

    But if I were a postmodern change agent, I would want to hide the precious old books that refresh young minds with moral absolutes and the unadulterated memories of our historical roots.

    Truth and freedom are incompatible with today’s evolving standards for global solidarity.

    Today’s books for Christian children are different. The actual Scriptures are usually missing, and new marketing schemes have led even Christian publishers to adapt their books to postmodern demands.

    Since entertainment is vital to sales, their new children’s books often show silly images of our holy God — designed to amuse, not show reverence. We seem to have forgotten God’s admonitions:

    “I will not let them profane My holy name anymore.” — Ezekiel 39:7

  28. KathJuliane October 24, 2010 @ 11:28 am

    Which Way America?

    If we do not begin to recover our historical memory and America’s founding truths, including the overarching place of our Lord Jesus Christ in American life and Sacred Scripture within Tradition —

    We will not know our destiny, or have any sense for it anymore, submerged in the anti-Christ spirit of the age.

    Purging the Memory of our Christian Roots (part 2)
    By Berit Kjos – March 2, 2009

    Changing our Memories

    “‘Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past,’ repeated Winston obediently.”[1] George Orwell’s 1984

    “The classroom must and will become an arena of conflict between the old and the new – the rotting corpse of Christianity… and the new faith of humanism.”[2] The Humanist

    “…a reconfigured collective memory will also allow individuals to see their personal experiences differently and place events… in a new matrix of meaning.”[3] Memory and Power in Post-war Europe

    Nothing speeds America’s memory loss faster than its spreading boundaries for Biblical truth. And it’s no accident that today’s emphasis on politically correct tolerance rarely applies to Christians.

    Like Obama’s Faith-Based Partnership, our schools and colleges are silencing “faith-based” expressions. So when little Sallie wanted to tell her friend about Jesus, the principal scolded her.

    When Antonio included a small drawing of Jesus in an Earth Day picture (after all, He made the earth) the bewildered kindergartner faced humiliation. Do you wonder what happened to their free speech?

    When Christian words are confined to homes and churches (or dismissed altogether), they soon fade from public awareness. Francis Schaeffer, founder of L’Abri, saw the coming amnesia more than thirty years ago. In How Should We Then Live, he described the consequences:

    “As the Christian consensus dies, there are not many sociological alternatives. One possibility is hedonism, in which every man does his own thing. Trying to build a society on hedonism leads to chaos….

    “In the days of a more Christian culture, a lone individual with the Bible could judge and warn society, regardless of the majority vote, because there was an absolute by which to judge. There was an absolute for both morals and law. But to the extent that the Christian consensus is gone, this absolute is gone as a social force.”

    “Much of the church is no help… because for so long a large section of the church has only been teaching a relativistic humanism using religious terminology.”[7]

    Why didn’t we notice it sooner? What are the consequences of such blindness? Shaeffer explains:

    “We see two effects of our loss of meaning and values…. [First] degeneracy, decadence, depravity, a love of violence for violence’s sake…. [Second] Society cannot stand chaos. Some group or some person will fill the vacuum.”

    “At that point the words left or right will make no difference. They are only two roads to the same end.

    “There is no difference between an authoritarian government from the right or the left: the results are the same. An elite, an authoritarianism as such, will gradually force [a totalitarian] form on society so that it will not go on to chaos…. And most people will accept it… That is just what Rome did….”

    “Will the West be able to stand against the totalitarian nations now that the Christian base of the Western freedoms is largely gone? Obviously this could be related to… the possibility of economic breakdown in the West.”[8]

  29. Fr. Joseph October 24, 2010 @ 11:40 am

    “The World Struggle is NOT political or economic. Rather, it is RELIGIOUS and THEOLOGICAL. It is either God or atheism.”
    – U.S. 5 Star General Douglas MacArthur to visiting Catholic Bishop Fulton Sheen in Allied Occupied Japan

    Well, you all might as well KNOW ‘What Went Wrong’ for these past 126 years since 1884 A.D. of Human History, Human Societal and Human Civilization Spiritual Development AND Advncement:

    Starting with and in the year 1884 A.D.:

    A Short History of the Prayer of St. Michael the Archangel:

    Regarding the Mother of God’s “Peace Plan” for our entire World per her Apparitions, Messages and Instructions as Our Lady of Fatima, Portugal 1917 A.D. in ‘Heaven’s Key to Peace’ viewed on Youtube here:

    World PEACE

  30. Fr. Joseph October 24, 2010 @ 11:56 am

    World PEACE or the Annihilation of Nations? It Depends on 4600 Men.

    How come Heaven’s ‘WORLD PEACE’ Plan wasn’t utilized or implemented? Here’s the reason:

    ‘A List of MASONS in the Hierarchy of the Catholic Church’

    So this is the spiritual RESULT:

    The most recent Pope who WANTED to utilize and implement Heaven’s World Peace Plan and his fate:

    YOUR All-good God, His Divine and Eternally Begotten Son and His Son’s MOTHER did NOT ‘Give Up’ on Their Church Militant here on earth nor did They ‘abandon’ the rest of our Human Race. They MADE SURE that the Church’s and Mankind’s BETRAYAL and BETRAYERS were exposed to one and all:

    Meanwhile, here in the United States of America, these Luciferian BETRAYERS of the Church Militant and of the population of these United States of America were “Doing THEIR Thing” while perched high in the Judicial Seats of the U.S. Supreme Court:

    “Behind the Lodge Door”

    TWO THINGS all of you can still do – whether you are ‘religious’ or not, whether you are a ‘Christian’ or not…

    First, you can WRITE any and all of the BISHOPS of the Catholic Church advising them all that you would very much LIKE for them TO DO what the Mother of God told them to do with respect to a public and solemn worldwide Collegial Consecration of Russia to the Mother of God’s Immaculately Loving Heart in order to gain our entire World God’s Own WORLD PEACE!

    Their mailing addresses can be readily obtained from here:

    And then, you are ALL most certainly welcome and most assuredly most at SPIRITUAL LIBERTY per the Divine Will of our All-good God, Father, Creator, Sustainer, Lord, Redeemer and Human Race’s Savior and Their Holy Spirit TO PRAY

    ‘The Rosary’ – instructions given here:

    If the POPE along with the BISHOPS of the Catholic Church don’t HUMBLY OBEY the Mother of God’s Messages and Instructions as Our Lady of Fatima, Portugal 1917 A.D., well then…


    All of us are in big…and I mean REALLY BIG TROUBLE!

    – +Fr. Joseph

  31. Fr. Joseph October 24, 2010 @ 12:02 pm

    Sorry for the typos…

    ‘A List of MASONS in the Hiearchy of the Catholic Church’

    And about the POPE who wanted to utilize AND implement Heaven’s WORLD PEACE PLAN:

    And FYI, U.S. President John F. Kennedy had a bullet put into his head BECAUSE he was out to dissolve the very JEWISH Central Bank of the United States of America – the Federal Reserve Bank shoved down everyone’s throats via the treasonous and unConstitutional Federal Reserve Act of 1913 which got us all into World War I, World War II and every last U.S. war and military action since then!

    – +Fr. Joseph

  32. Disgusted White Christian October 24, 2010 @ 2:04 pm

    [Helen Thomas with Bill Clinton]

    Helen Thomas Stands up to Israel

    by Jeff Davis

    One little old lady isn’t going to grovel before the Jewish power structure. Helen Thomas, a reporter who has been firing gutsy questions at presidents of the United States for longer than most of us have been alive, recently got in trouble for suggesting the Jews should leave Palestine.

    The Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz reports: “Former White House correspondent Helen Thomas has acknowledged she touched a nerve with remarks about Israel that led to her retirement.

    But she says the comments were ‘exactly what I thought,’ even though she realized soon afterward that it was the end of her job. ‘I hit the third rail.

    You cannot criticize Israel in this country and survive,’ Thomas told Ohio station WMRN-AM in a sometimes emotional 35-minute interview that aired Tuesday. It was recorded a week earlier by WMRN reporter Scott Spears at Thomas’ Washington, D.C., condominium.”

    I thought we had Free Speech in America. Why then do so many people lose their jobs for telling the truth about the Jews or the minorities?

    You can’t fire someone because they are Black, but you can sure as heck fire someone for an offhand remark that their employer doesn’t approve of.

    Maybe free speech should be protected –that seems like a much more important “civil right” for a free people.

    Ha’aretz goes on: “Thomas, 90, stepped down from her job as a columnist for Hearst News Service in June after a rabbi and independent filmmaker videotaped her outside the White House calling on Israelis to get out of Palestine.

    She gave up her front row seat in the White House press room, where she had aimed often pointed questions at 10 presidents, going back to Eisenhower.

    She has kept a low profile since then. ‘It was very hard for the first two weeks. After that, I came out of my coma,’ said Thomas, whose parents immigrated to the U.S. from Lebanon.

    Rabbi David Nesenoff, who runs the website, said he approached Thomas after he’d been at the White House for Jewish Heritage Day on May 27.

    He asked whether she had any comments on Israel. ‘Tell them to get the hell out of Palestine,’ she replied. ‘Remember, these people are occupied and it’s their land. It’s not Germany, it’s not Poland,’ she continued. Asked where they should go, she answered, ‘They should go home.’ ‘Where’s home?’

    Nesenoff asked. ‘Poland, Germany and America and everywhere else,’ Thomas replied. ‘I told him exactly what I thought,’ she told Spears…”

    A 60-year career went right down the tubes for speaking out loud two or three sentences containing a forbidden truth.

    Maybe Helen Thomas thought after all those years in the very seat of power that she was immune from the Unwritten Rules. She found out different.

    The Jews had to make an example of her, specifically to show that no one, no one, within the System may utter a single critical word about Israel and expect to “survive” in the professional sense.

    Ironically, it is incidents like these which prove the very point some of these celebrities are trying to make about the power of the Jews.

    Americans don’t like being told what to do or what to say. Whether it’s a growing list of politically correct taboos or simple Jewish tyranny.

    There’s a growing rebellion here in America, and the Tea party is only the start of it. Just wait until we get to the Jewish problem.

    “Just wait until we get to the Jewish problem.” -Jeff Davies

    I am sorry Jeff, I think, you are going to have a VERY VERY long wait, to get to the “Jewish problem” with all these brainwashed, cowardly sheep in the USA and the west!


  33. wayne pacific October 24, 2010 @ 2:35 pm

    Taking away Jewish control of the media is essential, but how is that accomplished?

    We probably can’t buy them out. I guess we just have to keep up our information guerrilla war.

    Eventually it may wear them down, but if they react violently to us and shut down our sites and incarcerate us, then the survivors must take to a physical guerrilla war.

    There are not that many of “them” and we could turn it around.

  34. Brother Nathanael October 24, 2010 @ 3:09 pm

    Text Of Video “The Destiny of America”

    (In Addition To Nina’s Post Above In Case Some Have Missed It – THANK YOU DEAR NINA!)

    The Destiny of America
    October 23, 2010
    COPYRIGHT, 2010, Brother Nathanael Foundation
    Law Firm – Richmond, Sprouse, & Murphy LLC

    The enduring power of a nation must be based upon an idea that inspires its people with super-personal content.

    Ever since the Judaic revolution of 1913, which installed the Federal Reserve Bank, America has been based on an economic idea; a Jewish system where money is the only value of human life.

    This economic idea neither inspires nor elevates beyond individual gratification which today is experienced by only a few.

    For the icons of America’s economic idea is limited to the figures of Jewish supremacy whether Ben Shalom Bernanke appearing on the cover of Time Magazine or Paul Krugman appearing on television giving investment advice on CNN’s Money Matters.

    Indeed money does matter to these stockbrokers and shareholders whose investments are stored in the high rises of Goldman Sachs regional headquarters, not on Wall Street, but located in Shanghai and Mumbai where the matter of money is everything and the matter of American jobs and American families is nothing.

    America needs a new idea now that America’s economic idea has been shipped overseas by Jewish financiers.

    When Joe Biden visited Israel last spring, upon being presented by Netanyahu a picture with broken glass shattered on its frame, the humiliated Biden was still able to manage the utterance of America’s new credo: “America has an unbreakable bond with the nation of Israel.” And it sounds over and over again like a broken record.

    In other words, the only bond that holds us together here in America is that which binds us to the higher power of International Jewry.

    As President of the Brother Nathanael Foundation we are engaged in binding to a greater idea than the Zionist creed.

    For the roots of America’s potential future is planted in Christendom’s great idea of building Christ’s kingdom on earth.

    Simply read the early Colonial charters of Rhode Island, of Maryland, of Massachusetts where the vision of the white European settlers was to build a nation for, “The glory of Jesus Christ.”

    This idea inspired and gave impetus to the impregnation and the propagation of that race that would be the bearers of Christ’s kingdom on earth which gave no place to those who opposed its King.

    The destiny of America is now at a crossroads.

    Unless we resist the Judaic insurrectionists that brought to us the open immigration law of 1965 that began the final onslaught of white America then the American destiny will read like an American obituary!

  35. Jews October 24, 2010 @ 3:18 pm

    Jews do NOT believe in the so-called Judaeo-Christian heritage.

    A Reformed rabbi told me so in 1970. He said there is no such thing and that the traditions are very different.

    He really did not know that the Jews made up the term to make Christians feel linked to the Jews.

  36. Disgusted White Christian October 24, 2010 @ 3:20 pm

    “There are not that many of “them” and we could turn it around.” – wayne pacific

    It is not “them” you have to worry about wayne, it is their puppets, which there are
    millions and millions of them.

    Henry Ford said, the Christian puppets are worse than the masters.

    You see Christians daily cut each others throats to make those monsters happy.

    One thing, I certainly agree, with you on wayne, the fact they will try to censor the Internet in some capacity, via a “kill switch” or outright control of where the US citizen can go, like communist China does?

    I often thought George Orwell’s metaphor of “Big Brother” was more for Jews, but he insinuated it as government. Same with his book “Animal Farm.” Is it that hard to think of whom the “pigs” represent in our society???

    You see, you are not fighting Zionist Jews directly. They keep themselves in a cocoon or buffer, of mindless Christian drones and puppets, that will do anything they command.

    This comes from years and years of endless brainwashing from TV, Hollywood, academia,
    virtually every aspect of this “puppet” or “drones” existence from womb to tomb!

    It is not the Jews’ “money” but more their “mind control” of these puppets and drones that number in the millions globally, that are an almost insurmountable hurdle without God’s help?


  37. charlie October 24, 2010 @ 3:33 pm

    “I am sorry Jeff, I think, you are going to have a VERY VERY long wait, to get to the “Jewish problem” with all these brainwashed, cowardly sheep in the USA and the west!”


    “In other words, the only bond that holds us together here in America is that which binds us to the higher power of International Jewry.”

    Br Nathanael on Biden.

    Amazing what money can buy.
    As it says in Apocalypse: 18-13.

    ” – and souls of men.”

  38. GREEN GEKO October 24, 2010 @ 3:38 pm



  39. Disgusted White Christian October 24, 2010 @ 3:48 pm

    Typical of Western Christians, they will openly protest Satanists, denounce Satan, in a public charade, yet not one of them would protest to bring back his Christian Nativity scene?

    They know the Zionist Jew is the “Devil” behind Christ being removed from our public lives, yet they dare not tempt the “Jew’s wrath” by protesting to bring him back to our daily lives.


    It is easy to be a crusader, when you are not risking anything? Now they can all go home from their “Devil denouncing” feeling good about themselves (a bunch of little John Hagees).

    It is like a man that will go in and fight a lion, or a bear, after they remove it’s teeth and claws.

    Oooooh real brave!


  40. Disgusted White Christian October 24, 2010 @ 4:08 pm

    Israel slams Catholic statement on Mideast, singling out archbishop

    I know, Father Joseph will enjoy this one.

    Jerusalem, Israel (CNN) — A top Israeli official on Sunday criticized a new statement from Catholic bishops on the Middle East and blasted the remarks of a Catholic archbishop who spearheaded the statement as “libel.”

    On Saturday, Catholic bishops from the Middle East concluded a two-week conference in Rome, Italy, with a call for the international community, especially the United Nations, to work “to put an end to the occupation” of Palestinian territories.

    On Sunday, Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon criticized that concluding statement of the conference, called a synod.

    “We express our disappointment that this important synod has become a forum for political attacks on Israel in the best history of Arab propaganda,” Ayalon said in a statement. “The synod was hijacked by an anti-Israel majority.”

    Ayalon singled out the remarks of a Catholic archbishop who said at the conference that Israel is not the Jews’ promised land.

    “We Christians cannot speak of the ‘promised land’ as an exclusive right for a privileged Jewish people,” Archbishop Cyril Salim Bustros, who leads the Greek Melkite Church in the U.S., said at the conference’s final press conference on Saturday. “This promise was nullified by Christ.”

    “There is no longer a chosen people — all men and women of all countries have become the chosen people,” Bustros said.

    On Sunday, Israel’s Ayalon said that “We are especially appalled at the language used by Archbishop Bustros during his press conference.”

    Bustros led the committee that drafted the synod’s concluding statement on Israel and the Palestinians.

    “We call on the Vatican to distant themselves from Archbishop Boutros’ comments which are a libel against the Jewish People and the State of Israel and should not be construed as the Vatican’s official position,” Ayalon said in his statement.

    “These outrageous comments should not cast a shadow over the important relationship between the Vatican, the state of Israel and the Jewish people.”

    The Palestinian Authority, meanwhile, praised the synod and echoed Bustros’ remarks.

    “Israel cannot use the biblical concept of a promised land or chosen people to justify new settlements in Jerusalem or Israeli territorial claims,”

    Saeb Erakat, a spokesman for Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and a chief palestinian negotiator, said in a statement Sunday.

    Erakat said the synod sent “a clear a message to the government of Israel that it may not claim that Jerusalem is an exclusively Israeli city.”

    “(In) coming weeks we will engage in discussions with the Vatican on ways to further consolidate our fantastic relations,” Erakat said. ”

    The Catholic synod’s Saturday statement came at the end of a meeting headed by Pope Benedict XVI.

    “The Palestinian people will thus have an independent and sovereign homeland where they can live with dignity and security,” the statement said. “The State of Israel will be able to enjoy peace and security within their internationally recognized borders.”

    “The Holy City of Jerusalem will be able to acquire its proper status, which respects its particular character, its holiness and the religious patrimony of the three religions: Jewish, Christian and Muslim,” it said. “We hope that the two-state-solution might become a reality and not a dream only.”

    The pope first publicly endorsed a two-state solution to the Middle East crisis during a visit to the region in May 2009.

    At the time, he assured Palestinians of the Vatican’s support of a sovereign Palestinian homeland. It was a concept that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu resisted.

    More recently, the issue of settlement construction has threatened to scuttle the reactivated and now stalled peace talks between Israelis and Palestinians.


  41. Joe Cortina October 24, 2010 @ 4:17 pm

    Good commentary.

    Even the off topic discussion was in my opinion good viable valuable truths which were ultimately tied into Brother Nathanael’s specific points – but try to stay on.

    John King – off topic but one of the best and truest examples of ‘Tea Party’ duplicity I have read. You are 100% correct. They are LESS than useless – totally compromised and TOO STUPID to even realize it.

    Fr Joseph – good to see your wisdom on the site again.

    I think the basic message was that we must get back to our roots. Unfortunately most of our last generations do not have a clue to what those were.

    I remember when our industrial might (and I don’t mean the military) was the envy of the world.

    Personally – After a lifetime of reflection – and having worked for several industrial /business giants and having built my own company – I put the blame early on – to the principal evil which prevails even today. Labor unions!

    They were founded upon violence – directed by greed – run by corruption and whose principles were predicated upon essentially intimidation coersion and extortion.

    These organizations were heavily staffed by Jews and Marxists and still are. Whatever small good they may have done initially – it was eclipsed by monumental EVIL!

    Labor is the largest expense of any manufactoring endeavor – or any business for that matter. The main reason jobs have been outsourced is GREED – but not like you think.

    It became a necessity for survival. The greed was that of Union mentality workers — used to ‘making’ ( not ‘EARNING’) FIVE time the wages of the teachers who taught their children.

    One simple dramatic proof? Automobiles! We made the finest cars in the WORLD in the post war economy (the 50s and through the sixties) BUT MOST importantly – THEY WERE AFFORDABLE – bulletproof – lasted and were maintainable!

    Autoworkers made good money for the relatively unskilled work they performed – but WE GOT GREEDY – and listened to the BS spewed forth like so much vomit from the union thugs! I lived and worked in that era – I KNOW!

    Fast forward and combine that with Jewish banking and financing – the rest is current history. I used to be one of those made only in America guys – till we made worse crap than what we accused the first Japanese products of being.

    Today I drive a Toyota and would’t trade it for a caddy! I didn’t sell out – we sold OURSELVES out!

    We can learn a LOT from our past – from morals to manufacturing!


  42. charlie October 24, 2010 @ 4:54 pm

    “The synod was hijacked by an anti-Israel majority.”

    Now a democratic majority is called a hijacking by these liars.

    “There is no longer a chosen people — all men and women of all countries have become the chosen people,” Bustros said.

    Israel’s Ayalon said that “We are especially appalled at the language used by Archbishop Bustros”

    Not calling them the chosen is “appalling language,” “libel,” and “outrageous comments.”

    The laughs keep coming.

    The “Jewish” leaders are digging their own grave… with their own CNN shovel as far as anyone with even a half a brain is concerned.

    And yet world leaders bow to them as they did to the idiot Bush. Hmmm…interesting.

  43. Kurt October 24, 2010 @ 5:03 pm

    Brother Nathanael is right on–a man of faith and courage.

    But I must disagree with many of the posts I read about America. I have been listening to the blather for years about how most of the founding fathers of America were Christians of faith and so on.

    Therefore America is a Christian nation and so on. Most of the above is true except one startling truth. The declaration of Independence with its reference to “God” is NOT our governing document. The U.S. Constitution is! The Constitution is a secular governing document devoid of God. God isn’t mentioned nor credited in our founding document.

    Furthermore before the ink was dry on the new Constitution there were forces already at work to dismantle the new Republic. America is one of the few nations of the world ever founded upon humanistic ideas born of the enlightenment.

    In times past rulers took their authority from some type of “divine right” of governance.

    America is unique in that its leaders derive their power not from God but from “We the People”!

    Only ancient Israel holds any claim to having a divine commission of governance and they quickly threw it off.

    No country in the history of the recorded world has ever returned from the brink of the abyss.

    Babylon was the head of Gold and it ceased and was swallowed up by the Medes and Persians because of sin and so on. Next Medo Persia was swallowed up by the Greeks. Then the ‘beast’ the Romans: and the list is endless.

    Many Americans and Christians believe that there is some type of ‘exceptionalism’ and ‘manifest destiny’ to America. America is good and Godly and the USA is something special. I am afraid the USA is no different than any other country in the world as all governments and nations will be thrown in God’s trash can.

    I am all for America returning to its roots and its heritage but we first have to define what roots? We are citizens of another country and have citizenship in the kingdom of God.

    We look for that better country better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city (Heb. 11:16).

    I could write a book on where I think America is going and Bro. Nathanael is doing a good job writing what I see.

    I would be more concerned with sharing my faith with other people helping them become citizens of another country than trying to persuade people to ‘take back America.’ It isn’t going to happen. But one thing will happen is Jesus Christ is coming soon.

    Sign me a Pastor, scholar, and fearful of what I see coming on Christians that are not prepared for what lies ahead.

  44. charlie October 24, 2010 @ 5:22 pm


    one thing will happen is Jesus Christ is coming soon.

    Maybe the angels singing Halleluia as caught on tape signals that?

    But will we be ready, when the so called enlightened can’t even recognize the signs of the times?

  45. Gregory Laux October 24, 2010 @ 5:47 pm

    Kurt, can you please tell us when you think the Declaration of Independence was annulled and removed as being the law of the land as an official act of the founders?

    I know of no such date or time as to when the original declaration was made “null and void” by another document or act by the founders to this nation.

    If there is no such act, then the Declaration of Independence still is binding law and statements on the rights of the people in this region of the world.

    No leader has the right to nullify it just because they don’t want the Declaration to still be in force.

  46. fRED October 24, 2010 @ 5:47 pm

    Everytime I hear +Brother N. I get inspired!

    We can’t just sit on this information folks.

    After reading +Brother N.’s archives and his articles I have become somewhat attune at sniffing out Jews behind the scene.

    I was reviewing a PowerPoint presentation I was going to use in my high school World History class that was provided by the publisher.

    The topic is Rome and the Rise of Christianity. When I got to the section about Jesus and his crucifixion it said that Pontius Pilate arrested Jesus for being a political threat and had him crucified.

    Needless to say I have edited it and it is now attuned to a more factual event.

    I chucked to myself that the PowerPoint was not political Correct – but Jew Correct.

    This is another example of how our children are taught the untruths of history — that is why I am considering retiring from education next year.

    It is a bunch of PC crap and makes the Jew look victimized.

    In our state we have to teach the holocaust.

    I often begin by trying to defining a holocaust – then I take the class through the history of many holocausts. This includes the Armenian and Ukrainian holocausts.

    Last year I had a foreign exchange student from Italy in my World History class and had her comment on World War Two and the holocaust. She said many things I talked about could not be discussed in her high school.

    Where is American going? You tell me.

    Jesus is the ONLY answer.


    P.S. I am a proud monthly supporter!

  47. charlie October 24, 2010 @ 5:48 pm

    Br Nathanael

    After reading your web pages and listening to your videos I can’t help feeling you are destined for more than your current occupation.

    The time will come my friend when you will stand as a witness before all of America.

  48. Fr. Joseph October 24, 2010 @ 7:57 pm

    Dear Disgusted White Christian,

    Thanks for that info! I’m going to MAKE IT A POINT to participate in a local Catholic Melkite Church’s Divine Liturgy as my own small way of showing my esteem for, support of and Catholic ALLEGIANCE TO Archbishop Bustros!

    Now if ONLY the Bishops of the Church USED their God-given spiritual authority and spiritual powers IN UNION WITH the Bishop of Rome to perform that public and solemn Collegial Consecration of Russia to the Immaculately Loving Heart of the Most Holy Theotokos!

    These Christ-hating Kabbalah-Kissing Zohar-Zoomin’ Babylonian Talmud Krazed Khazars who go about calling themselves ‘Jews’ would FINALLY LEARN ‘WHO’S THE BOSS’ of this planet earth and LORD and KING over all of Mankind which just so happens to ENFOLD all the Palestinian people!

    “Am I my brother’s keeper?” -Genesis 4:8-10


    And they these so-called, self-styling ‘Jews’ would then LEARN, as well as all the peoples of our World, this vital spiritual lesson:

    “What I suggest, therefore, is that you leave these men alone and let them go. If this Enterprise, this Movement of theirs, is of human origin it will break up of its own accord; but IF IT DOES COME FROM GOD you will not only be unable to stop it, BUT YOU MIGHT FIND YOURSELVES FIGHTING AGAINST GOD!” – Acts 5:38-39

    It’s about TIME for the Church MILITANT to get a whole heck of A LOT MORE ‘MILITANT’ here in and all across this contemporary World of ours – this contemporary World that is ‘going TO HELL in a handbasket’!

    I say that ALL OF US ought to really desire seeing SATAN’S HEAD CRUSHED under the heel of THE WOMAN who just so happens to be the MOTHER of God, The Logos Incarnate, Himself!

    Those freakin’ MASONS and SATANISTS and CRYPTO-JEWS in and throughout the Ecclesiastical Hierarchy of OUR Catholic Church are doing everything in their powers TO PREVENT that from happening!

    Yet, the Bishop of Rome, by HIS OWN Ecclesiatical Authority, can ‘ORDER’ all of the Bishops of the Church in spiritual union and in spiritual unity WITH HIM to carry out ‘THE SPIRITUAL EXECUTION’ of the spiritual public enemy number one of God.

    And the spiritual public enemy number one of the Church and the spiritual public enemy number one of ALL OF MANKIND via that worldwide public and solemn Collegial Consecration of Russia to the Mother of God’s Immaculately Loving Heart per her Instructions as Our Lady of Fatima, Portugal 1917 A.D.!

    But I think that the ‘Ecclesiastical Trouble’ is this – that so many of the legitmate successors to the Apostles, i.e. those who are BISHOPS throughout our contemporary World, see NO NEED TO HAVE SPRIITUAL UNION WITH AND SPIRITUAL UNITY TO the Bishop of Rome!

    And THAT is gonna be the ‘Numero Uno’ reason why our Church Militant and our Human Race is GOING TO LOSE THIS WAR vs. Satan, his unseen demonic legions and his seen human stooges, dupes and allies running amock all across our contemporary World of 2010 Anno Domini!

    – +Fr. Joseph

  49. Kurt October 24, 2010 @ 9:12 pm


    I appreciate Bro. Nathanael’s insightful videos and writings about the Zionist designs on America.

    He is thorough in his research and conclusions. He doesn’t make wild or sensational accusations unless he can back up his claims with documentation which he always does.

    He is a true lover of truth. Because of this I highly recommend his web site to people whom I believe are also searching for the truth. His latest one about America’s Destiny is another eye opener.

    I would like to think America can stand against the tide of the world because America has more Christians and God fearing people than most other countries of the world. However the God fearing American people need to wake up and realize that the Declaration of Independence is not and never has been the law of the land — The U.S. Constitution is and it’s being used against us.

    The Declaration of Independence sets out the colonist’s reasons for breaking the bonds. It cites God in its preamble as giving all humans life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

    However again I point out when the governing document was drafted, signed and ratified, NO mention of God can be found. Again it begins “We the people.” If they wanted to make this a nation founded upon “GOD” they could have began the preamble with something like this:

    Having undertaken, for the Glory of God and advancement of the Christian Faith we do hereby do by these presents solemnly and mutually in the presence of God and one of another…(taken from the Mayflower compact Nov, 11, 1620)—instead of the benign: “We the People!”

    One can argue all day about the intent of the founders and what Madison and the Federalist papers say and so on but when you go to court “we’re a nation of laws” is what we are told.

    The Declaration of Independence gives no one any legal rights before the law.

    I have watched a lot of professional videos and read many books on why America is a Christian nation. But I have never heard anyone readily explain why God is not found in the governing documents?

    They quote Madison, Adams, Jefferson, Washington, and others to show these men’s faith and Christian belief. But I have to ask the question why did they leave “God” out of the governing document?

    The answer again is simple: they wanted a secular government and that is what we inherited. Go study about Benjamin Franklin who was a major player at the Constitutional Convention. He was not a Christian. The oft cited Jefferson was more of a deist than he was a Christian.

    He publicly rejected the historical Jesus as a miracle worker as he (Jefferson) claimed to be a man of science and reason. A good majority of Americans might prance around declaring America is a Christian Nation but I do not see them or it in Christian action?

    I am sure you are aware of the so called “establishment clause of the U.S. Constitution” (or more commonly called the separation of church and state) which reads: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.”

    I quote from Wikipedia:” The term is an offshoot of the original phrase, ‘wall of separation between church and state,’ as written in Thomas Jefferson’s letter to the Danbury Baptists Association in 1802. Jefferson was responding to a letter that the Association had written him.

    In that letter, they expressed their concerns about the Constitution not reaching the State level. In Jefferson’s letter, he was reassuring the Baptists of Danbury that their religious freedom would remain protected – a promise that no possible religious majority would be able to force out a state’s official church.

    The original text reads: “…I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between Church & State.

    The phrase was quoted by the United States Supreme Court first in 1878, and then in a series of cases starting in 1947, and continuing until the present.”

    For years Americans had been free to worship God in churches, schools, in public, and at government events.

    And then the unthinkable happened: On June 17, 1963, America was changed forever when the U.S. Supreme Court by an 8-1 majority ruled in the case of Pennsylvania v. Shempp et al. and Murray v. Curlett.

    This landmark ruling said that the required religious practices of Bible reading and recitation of the Lord’s Prayer in public schools and the laws requiring them are unconstitutional. What has happened since to this “Christian Nation?”

    The Ten Commandments have been removed from most courthouses (ironically given by Moses to the Jews on Mt Sinai and it’s the Jewish ACLU which has led the charge for their removal);

    Nativity scenes and Christian displays on public property no longer occur in most communities;

    Schools no longer allow Christmas programs to be performed;

    The Pledge of Allegiance has been attacked because of its “Under God” statement; and the list is endless.

    And what grounds do the ungodly use to challenge our religious freedoms: not the Declaration of Independence; no they cite the U.S. Constitution as their basis for relief.

    Bro. Nate has prolifically written about the Zionist goal of removing Christianity from the public arena. It has not been a religious majority that has usurped our rights as Christians but a minority headed by the ACLU and other Zionist organizations which hate Christ, Christians, and most things about God.

    And what do they use as legal basis: the U.S. Constitution. So much for Jefferson’s assurances of religious freedoms.

    The saddest result of all of this is as Christian and Americans where was/is the outcry over this tyrannical overreach of government? Where were the marches? Where are the protests? You know what people say about it: well we’re a nation of laws and that is what the US Supreme Court says.

    Finally to say America is a Christian Nation ordained by God opens up a can of worms. Of course modern Israel makes the same claim to be a nation “ordained by God.”

    When the Constitutional Convention refused to ban slavery did God ordain this? Did God cause the civil war? When Congress and Jackson ordered all the Indians forcibly moved west of the Mississippi River (Trail of Tears) did God ordain this?

    When the US Government began a public policy of exterminating the indigenous Indians did God ordain this? When the U.S. dropped the atomic bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima and killed many “Christians” and other innocent people did God ordain this?

    Just think of all the official acts of terror and persecution the US government perpetrated over the past 200+ years and ask: did God ordain any of this?

    Every time America went to war it cries this is God’s war! St. Augustine and St. Aquinas outlined what a “Just War” is and how it should be fought; yet America has for the most part since its inception ignored the Christian “Just War” teachings of the church.

    Thankfully God already has a country of people gathered from all nations’ kindred and tongues. I am afraid America as a nation of the world has as much blood on its hands as does any nation in history.

    Bro. Nate does a fantastic job showing the march of the Zionists through America.

    Please pray for him and donate regularly to his ministry.

  50. Donna chestergimli October 24, 2010 @ 9:16 pm

    Brother Nathanael,

    I love all of your postings and this one not less than the others.

    With that said let me make a list of points to you to let you know where I stand. Everything I write below comes form the Douay Rheims Catholic Bible:

    1) Zacharias 14:21, “And every caldron in Jerusalem and Juda shall be sanctified to the Lord of hosts: and all that sacrifice shall come, and take of them, and shall seethe in them: and the merchant shall be no more in the house of the Lord of hosts in that day.”

    What does this say? What is the house of the Lord?

    2) Isaias 31:7, “For in that day a man shall cast away his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which your hands have made for you to sin.” Idols? God is calling gold and silver idols. Gold and silver are 2 forms of the medium of exchange which primarily have been changed to paper money.

    3) Isaias 44:14-21, “He hath cut down cedars, taken the holm, and the oak that stood among the trees of the forest: he hath planted the pine tree, which the rain hath nourished.

    “And it hath served men for fuel: he took thereof, and warmed himself: and he kindled it, and baked bread: but of the rest he made a god, and adored it: he made a graven thing, and bowed down before it.

    “Part of it he burnt with fire, and with part of it he dressed his meat: he boiled pottage, and was filled, and was warmed, and said: Aha, I am warm, I have seen the fire. But the residue thereof he made a god, and a graven thing for himself: he boweth down before it, and adoreth it, and prayeth unto it, saying: Deliver me, for thou art my God.

    “They have not known, nor understood: for their eyes are covered that they may not see, and that they may not understand with their heart.

    “They do not consider in their mind, nor know, nor have the thought to say: I have burnt part of it in the fire, and I have baked bread upon the coals thereof: I have broiled flesh and have eaten, and of the residue thereof shall I make an idol? shall I fall down before the stock of a tree?

    “Part thereof is ashes: his foolish heart adoreth it, and he will not save his soul nor say: Perhaps there is a lie in my right hand.

    “Remember these things, O Jacob, and Israel, for thou art my servant. I have formed thee, thou art my servant, O Israel, forget me not.” These verses seem to me to be saying that mankind works in the economy to provide for his sustenance which is really the only reason for human economy in the first place.

    So what is this money thing all about anyway?

    4) Matthew 21:12& 13, “And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all of them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the money changers, and the chairs of them that sold doves: And he said to them: It is written, “My house shall be called the house of prayer; but you have made it a den of thieves.”

    “Why didn’t Our Lord accuse them of making His Father’s house a center of commerce? This is tantamount to Jesus calling the merchants and money changers thieves. It represents a strong anger of Jesus, the Son of God, God the Father, and God the Holy Ghost against the bankers and businessman of his day. What would he say now?

    5) Apocalypse 18:11, “And the merchants of the earth shall weep, and mourn over her: for no man shall BUY their merchandise any more.” What do you use to BUY merchandise?

    6) Apocalypse 18:19 “And they (the shipmasters and all that sail into the lake) cast dust upon their heads, and cried, weeping and mourning, saying: Alas! alas! that great city, wherein all were made rich, that had ships at sea, by reason of her PRICES; for in one hour she is made desolate.”

    The Apocalypse says prices. What is a price? It is an amount of money charged for an item.

    So let’s look at it. The merchant shall be no more in the house of the Lord in the day that God destroys Babylon because no one will buy their merchandise anymore.

    In that day also it appears that men will throw their gold and silver in the street which their hands have made for them to sin. Maybe in that day they will then understand that they have placed another God before the high God to place their trust in.

    And maybe they will see that perhaps there has been a lie in their right hand when God comes to overthrow the bankers and businessman who buy and sell in this world and have been made rich by the reason of Babylon’s prices.

    He is bringing them together even today in a place in Hebrew which is called Armagedon – the hill of robbers. Folks, this is the currency war that is now getting ready to burst out into the open.

    Whether any of us realize it or not, our lives revolve around money. Our whole economy revolves around the medium of exchange which is controlled by the Jews and it is their weapon against all of us. As Jesus says in Apocalypse 16:15, “Behold I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked and they see his shame.”

    Brother Nathanael, I feel that you are a warning to these people that Jesus is coming. He will burst upon all of us unawares.

    The Jews and all of their followers will be condemned on that day. So we must just hold fast and inform any that we can.

  51. kmarie October 24, 2010 @ 9:18 pm

    There is, happily, much Christian input in the United States history and culture.

    Unfortunately, there is also a lot of Freemasonry and Illuminati influence going back to the founding fathers themselves.

    Definitely, the Jewish Rothschilds took an interest in the new nation.

    International banks had a role in financing the Revolutionary War, as in financing most wars, I am quite certain.

    And the bankers tenaciously meddled in the financial efforts of the young nation until–Chutzpah triumphs again!–the Federal Reserve scam was passed by Congress in 1913.

    The Federal Reserve SHOULD NOT own the citizens of the United States nor our credit.

    The citizens of the United States SHOULD own the Federal Reserve and our own credit.

    And we, as individuals and as a nation, ARE owned by the Lord Jesus Christ, Who has bought us with a price!

    And, yes, we do NEED to find ways to use this excellent information which Brother Nathanael provides for us!

  52. charlie October 24, 2010 @ 9:57 pm

    The destiny of America.

    Agenda 21 is well underway in America.

    All bases have now been covered.

    The Gulf oil spill which was miraculously capped? after sufficient oil and dispersant had been, and is still being, released was the beginning of the last phase…the poisoning of the fisheries.

    The plan before your government now is to give the Navy permission to poison the REST of the USA seaboard.

    The cover is chemical and other “experiments.”

    Once that is acomplished everything you drink eat, smoke, take, breath and swim in will be poisoned.

    They have also attacked that which is not already poisoned, organic food, medicine supplements to make them illegal.

    This is before the House right now and the Natural Solutions Foundation, directed by Dr Rima Le Beau is at the cutting edge of this fight with a massive public support behind her.

  53. Brother Nathanael October 24, 2010 @ 11:04 pm

    Dear Donna chestergimli –

    Since when am I warning that “Jesus is coming?”

    Where do you see this anywhere in my writings or videos?

    The Orthodox Church teaches that Jesus Christ has NEVER left. (Christ is invisibly present in The Orthodox Church and therefore IN the world)

    (Christ promised His apostles and future successors:

    “I am with you ALWAYS even unto the end of the age” — when He will manifest Himself BODILY at His 2nd Coming with His martyrs, saints and angels.)

    The Western error and view is that Jesus Christ is absent until He comes again.

    I am ***IN*** HIS Holy Presence and His Holy Presence is ***IN*** me as a member of the Body of Christ of which He is the Head — and the HEAD is ALWAYS THERE guiding and directing.

    There is NO capitation in the Holy Orthodox Church.

    We are NOT a headless Church substituted by ‘bible verses.’

    Our task then is to FIGHT for OUR HEAD now in the presence of His enemies the WICKED JEWS.
    In the meantime, many love this site, its articles, its Videos.

    This past week with close to 30,000 Hits only 8 people donated by online donations and by mail.

    This site cannot survive with such low enthusiasm to contribute.

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  54. Gregory Laux October 24, 2010 @ 11:31 pm

    Kurt, did you ever read the complete Declaration of Independence which was legally adopted by the Continental Congress, which means it is still binding law.

    Here is the place where they mention God, in the form of Creator giving each citizen “inalienable” rights.

    The word Creator refers to God directly, as well as the word inalienable means they are rights which cannot be taken away by any human institution.

    Now the text where the Declaration of Independence cites or refers to God:

    That they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

  55. Hoff October 24, 2010 @ 11:48 pm

    Strong David Duke video!

    “Top Rabbi Exposes Jewish Racism!”

  56. Terry October 25, 2010 @ 12:32 am

    The Destiny of America

    The white race “would be the bearers of Christ’s kingdom on earth.”

    Wow! that is hard hitting, BN, and very true.

    Well done.

  57. Left Coast Christian October 25, 2010 @ 1:02 am

    Destiny of America?

    At this point our only real hope is to do what has been done before: And that is chuck the Jews out of this country the way they’ve been thrown out of many others.

    Realistically that won’t happen.

    BUT perhaps Israhell will be more reckless in their next false flag attack and will get caught red handed to the extent that not even the Jew media will be able to ignore it.

    A lot of people have mentioned the Tea Party being completely taken over by Zionists.

    This isn’t necessarily true, some of the people at those events may not necessarily deal with race and culture of America but a lot of it is because they are forced to beat the leftist at their own game of political correctness.

    And yes many people who attend Tea Party rallies do not all have the same opinions on foreign affairs and social issues.

    However, the bottom line is this: White Christian America needs to mobilize as an organized group, or else we’re doomed.

  58. x October 25, 2010 @ 2:53 am

    Zionist beast nato mass murderers keep killing while lie to own people and own soldiers about all terror.

    Afghan Official: Dozens Die in NATO Airstrike

  59. x October 25, 2010 @ 4:08 am

    Another Zionist beast propaganda while all the terror war poverty misery on the planet come from Zionist beast.

    Zionist beast agent mike mullen war criminal has spoken @

  60. Glory B. October 25, 2010 @ 6:30 am

    Rachel wrote:
    “I am have come to believe the Jewish god and the Christian God are not the same God.”

    DWC wrote:
    “The “Jewish God” is Satan, not the Spirit that gave Moses the 10 commandments.”

    You are both right!

    This is what I learned, to my horror, when I — then a Jew — was introduced to Jesus Christ as a student in college.

    The Jewish god is a vengeful, blood-thirsty, hateful god. The Old Testament is full of his murderous desires.

    “And Israel joined himself unto Baalpeor: and the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel. And the LORD said unto Moses, ‘Take all the heads of the people and hang them up before the LORD against the sun, that the fierce anger of the LORD may be turned away from Israel.'” (Numbers 25:3-4

    “And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle. And Pharaoh rose up in the night, he, and all his servants, and all the Egyptians; and there was a great cry in Egypt; for there was not a house where there was not one dead.” (Exodus 12:29-30)

    “And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle. And Pharaoh rose up in the night, he, and all his servants, and all the Egyptians; and there was a great cry in Egypt; for there was not a house where there was not one dead.” (Exodus 12:29-30)

    “Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.” (Deuteronomy 13:15)

    “Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:16-18)

    “Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the sword. Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.” (Isaiah 13:15-16)

    Contrast this with the words of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ throughout the New Testament. There is no need to quote: The Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5) says it all.

    Jews value money above all else, and “the love of money is the root of all evil.” (1 Timothy 6:10).

    Therefore Satan and his followers the Jews are behind all the evil in the world.

    Zionist Christians say to pray for the Jews and hope for their ultimate conversion to Christ.

    Individual Jews like myself and Bro. Nathanael have seen the light and turned to Our Lord, but Jews as a group remain committed to their satanic master.

    What Hitler did to the Jews was merely a whiff of what will happen to them if they don’t shape up.

  61. marshall[Maher-shalal-hash-baz] October 25, 2010 @ 6:42 am

    Romans 11: 20, 21 –

    “Well because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.”

    As we approach the new national holiday of holloween that becomes greater and greater in America’s national consciousness every year, it is obvious that Paul’s warning of what would happen if THE LORD JESUS CHRIST was rejected, is taking place in “Jewmerica.”

    As young people born after 1983 [generation Y] have absolutly no consciousness of JESUS CHRIST, their “spirituallity” is dictated by the Jew-Holy-Wood flood of occult movies, any “future” our country may have had is now lost.

    Nothing short of using Street Evangelism, like BN’s Street Evangalism to reach these soul dead young can stem the tide of the end of America.

  62. Donna chestergimli October 25, 2010 @ 6:53 am

    Dear Brother Nathanael,

    I totally agree with you that Jesus Christ never left us. He said that he would be with us always even to the end of the end of time (the age). However, I wonder about a point that all Christians believe. And that is that Christ will come personally back to us.

    Remember, Jesus is the second person of the Trinity-God and God has never manifested himself to the whole human race ever in a manner that we can understand. When Jesus came he said that before Abraham came to be, “I am.” These were the same words that God used to Moses in the burning bush.

    So he said that he was God-the Creator. They couldn’t believe this because God had never manifested himself before all men before. We believe it now but only the Apostles and His Blessed Mother and a few others believed it then.

    I want to tell you a sort of joke I heard several years ago that I have never forgotten. “One time there was a flood. A man on a porch was praying to Heaven, God save me. A rowboat came along and the man in the rowboat said come, Sir, I will take you to safety. The man said no, God is going to save me.

    So the water kept getting higher and still the man prayed, God save me. A motor boat came by and the man inside said, come on, Sir, let’s get you to safety. But the man said, go on, God is going to save me. The water got up to the roof of his house and he still prayed, God save me.

    Pretty soon a helicopter came over and the people on board tried to get the man to let them airlift him aboard. But he said again, no, God will save me. The water raised up, the man died.

    When he went before the judgement seat he said to God, I prayed and prayed and you said that you would save all who prayed to you. God said to him, well, I sent you a rowboat, a motorboat, and a helicopter. How much more could I have done?”

    The armies of Heaven in Chapter 19 verses 11 through 18 are described by John with a leader called the King of Kings the Lord of Lords. St. John surely would have said that he saw Jesus Christ himself coming if that is what he saw. But he didn’t, he described him as the WORD OF GOD. I believe it could be that what John saw was people imbued with God and his law to rule this world with a rod of iron.

    Now just let me say what I feel about the Jews qualifying to be the seed of the serpent. In order to be able to take over this world, Lucifer would need a clique of people dedicated to himself. But he knows that God created man and he created him inherently good and dedicated to himself.

    So he had to fool this little clique of people into believing that they were worshipping God. Which he has done. He had to create a religious clique of people in order to hold them together because nothing holds people together better than their religion.

    He has created amongst them a climate of “us against them” by, number 1, making them feel that they are superior to the rest of us, and, number 2, in order to prevent them from becoming complacent, he has made them feel persecuted by the rest of us.

    The idea that they are persecuted by the rest of us binds them strongly together and keeps them fighting against the rest of us while the leaders of this clique buy and blackmail their way into the seats of power.

    They have control of the devil’s medium of exchange which they have caused their enemies (the rest of us) to put their faith in from the cradle to the grave in order to keep everyone in line. This is why I say that God is going to destroy the very idea of the medium of exchange which I believe to be Babylon in the Apocalypse.

    I believe it to be the serpent’s (Lucifer’s) weapon against the human race. I also beleive it could be the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

    Going back to the Jews being made to stick together and fight due to the persecution thing, the average US citizen has been made to do the same thing with the bogus war on terror.

    Americans are told that other people of other countries hate us because of our freedom and our wealth and most of our citizens have believed them and they fight. This has been the way that Lucifer has kept his Jewish armies from becoming complacent.

    The US citizen would become complacent unless they were stirred up to fear the Moslems of the world and to fight them. In this way, Lucifer and his Jewish armies are buying time trying to hold things together financially until they have us all destroyed through a nuclear war.

    As I have said above though, I don’t believe that a nuclear is what the Battle of Armagedon is all about. I believe that the Battle of Armageddon is the currency and trade wars that are just coming into the visible eye of the citizens of the world.

    They are pushing austerity in all of the European Union countries and soon it will be happening to the US worse that it has ever been before. The Jews are in the process of losing monetary control even if it doesn’t look like it from the outside.

    When that control is lost, all hell will break loose in their international financial system as all countries will be out to defend themselves. This will wreck the monetary system. And no one will buy the merchants merchandise anymore.

    Three more points I would like to make. Number 1 -“The mountains shall be levelled and the valleys shall be raised. What is meant by this.

    Number 2 – The love of money is the root of all evil. So said St. Paul.

    Number 3 – I can only remembered Jesus speaking of one person who went to hell. That person was the rich man who left Lazarus begging outside his gate and gave him nothing. This is why Jesus said that it was easier for a camel to get through the “eye of a needle” than a rich man to get into Heaven. It kind of ties into the destruction of the medium of exchange.

    I am sorry I didn’t send a donation a couple of weeks ago. I am poor and there were two gas leaks in my basement that I had to have fixed. I will send double this week.

    Brother Nathanael, These interpretations of what the Bible is saying I do not ask or demand that other people accept. These are mine and mine alone. And they could always be wrong. But it will take the Lord Jesus Christ to come to my face and tell me so.

  63. Brother Nathanael October 25, 2010 @ 6:58 am

    Dear Glory B –

    The error of the Gnostics was to separate and confound the God of the Old Testament from the God of the New Testament.

    One can find the SAME descriptions of the God of “love” and the God of “wrath” in both Testaments.

    Any well-studied Biblical reader can adduce many such passages in both Testaments.

    But more importantly, this is the Teaching of the Holy Orthodox Christian Church, of which I am a member and of whose Teachings I only reiterate.

    The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are shown in the Old Testament, and brought forth in the clarity of “grace and truth” in the New Testament.

    The Prophets of the God of the Old Testament predicted the Coming of the Messiah Who would usher in the New Testament in His Blood and celebrated in the Holy Eucharist.

    This Messiah warns of “a worm that does not die, teeth that gnash, and a Hell of outer darkness” in the New Testament along with His Sermon on the Mount.

    Blessings To You Dear Glory B!

    +Brother Nathanael Kapner
    Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia (ROCOR)

  64. Arjan October 25, 2010 @ 7:16 am

    We can sort out all our differences after we get rid of the Jew.

  65. laws632 October 25, 2010 @ 7:19 am

    Re: the “bad” God of the OT and the “nice” God of the NT: try reading Mark 9 or Revelation.

    Same God. He is patient and loving BUT there comes a time when He says “enough”.

    Jesus is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Don’t be confused.

    And ps: Fr. Joseph October 24, 2010 @ 10:23 am: Mary is a false spirit. RC is a CULT – not Christian at ALL. Mary was the incubator/ surrogate vessel for Jesus. NOT “immaculate.” She had original sin. ONLY Jesus had no Adamic blood.

  66. Fr. Joseph October 25, 2010 @ 8:56 am


    Prove it!

    – +Fr. Joseph

  67. x October 25, 2010 @ 8:58 am

    One good article on Zionist beast international criminals:

  68. charlie October 25, 2010 @ 9:34 am

    This dichotomy of being with and having left is a mystery of the spiritual life.

    Our dear ones depart but “they are still with us” -“in spirit”

    Yet Christ clearly states in the Gospel that He is going to the Father and that unless He goes the Spirit of Truth, the Comforter cannot come.


    “He ascended into Heaven. He is seated at the right hand of the Father. He wil come again in glory to judge the living and the dead…..”

    We proclain in the Apostles Creed. Glory be to God.

  69. Kurt October 25, 2010 @ 9:53 am

    Thank you Bro. Nathanael for allowing a good exchange of ideas and viewpoints on your website.

    Although many posters often do not agree with one another most posters are usually civil.

    Thank you for your web site and God forbid if it would vanish.

  70. Andrew October 25, 2010 @ 10:28 am


    “She had original sin. ONLY Jesus had no Adamic blood.”

    Referring to Mary. This is close, but not quite right. Jesus had to have Adamic blood or He would not have been our kinsman and able to redeem us. (basic principle covered in Leviticus 25). This is why Luke traces Jesus’ genealogy from Mary all the way back to Adam, to show he is our human kinsman.

    The way God worked it is the sin nature is transmitted via the male sperm, not the female egg.

    Thus any child born of a human mother and father (male or female) has the sin nature as transmitted by the male sperm.

    Jesus was unique in that he was not born of a human father’s sperm, but conceived by Holy Spirit and thus without sin. This is the reason for and the importance of the virgin birth.

    It was the only way Jesus could be our blood relative and redeem us and at the same time be without sin and capable of redemption.

    Mary was a normal human with a sin nature and needed redemption as much as anyone, but she did not pass this sin nature on Jesus. Only Joseph could have done this, but he was not the biological father and so did not.

  71. Fr. Joseph October 25, 2010 @ 11:24 am

    Sorry, but the Blessed Virgin Mary was rendered SINLESS at the moment of HER conception in the womb of HER mother, St. Anna. And THAT was afforded to the Most Blessed Daughter of St. Anna, the human mother of the Blessed Virgin Mary by an ACT OF GOD Who Is Perfectly Capable of doing ALL THINGS – to include taking on our human nature.

    For to DENY the Immaculate Conception of the Mother of God, the Blessed Virgin Mary, is to outright call, proclaim, insist and declare that GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT is a ‘Divine LIAR’!.

    For it was GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT Who inspired St. John the Apostle to convey to the rest of us members of the entire sinful HUMAN RACE:

    “It was TO UNDO ALL
    that the devil has done
    that the Son of God appeared.”
    St. John the Apostle – 1 John 3:8

    Was not Eve SINLESS at the moment God created her?

    Was not Eve SINLESS when God present her to Adam?

    Was not Eve ‘subjected to the test’ by encountering and suffering from the spiritual temptation of THE DEVIL?

    Did not Eve SUCCUMB to the temptation of THE DEVIL and hence SIN against the Divine Will of God Himself?

    If GOD decided TO UNDO “ALL” that the devil DID per St. John’s Apostolic Teaching as contained in the ‘Inerrant/Infallible’ Word of God written down via the Divine Inspiration of God the Holy Spirit using the human agency of human writers, it follows that

    1) The Mother of God herself was conceived and created SINLESS

    2) The Mother of God was NEVER and COULD NEVER be accosted/tempted/troubled/vexed or in any manner, shape or form be INFLUENCED by THE DEVIL.

    3) And the PURE LOVE that was and IS hers to give out onto others, to God the Father, to her Divine Son JESUS and to her Divine Spouse God the Holy Spirit is hers ON ACCOUNT OF the Divine Life of God the Holy Spirit Himself Who imparts, covers, conveys, grants her His Own Divine Spiritual Life as her very own.

    4) And if GOD the Father ‘so LOVED the World’ that He gave His Only Eternally Begotten Son to be our entire Human Race’s SAVIOR, REDEEMER, LORD and KING – then the Blessed Virgin Mary who likewise was/is granted the FULLNESS OF DIVINE GRACE via God the Father’s Own Divine Holy Spirit – also gave HER Divine Son up as ‘The Lamb of God’, the PERFECT Sacrifice for Mankind’s Sins, SO THAT our entire Human Race MIGHT HAVE the means and ‘the chance’ of ESCAPING the dreadful spiritual affects that EVE’S ORIGINAL SIN brought down upon the Human Race and into our entire World!

    The Blessed Virgin Mary’s assigned-by-God-Himself SPIRITUAL ROLE in the “Divine Economy” of Eternal Salvation and Redemption of OUR entire Human Race, to be the MOTHER of God Incarnate, so that by HER actions and intercessions ON BEHALF OF our entire Human Race our Human Race WOULD HAVE AN APPROPRIATE/EFFICAOUS ‘SIN OFFERING’ to Almighty God is our ‘Last Chance’ and our ‘Last Hope’ of our Human Race WINNING this spiritual battle vs. Satan, his legions of elemental spirits from HELL and his worldwide corporate structure of interlinked and inter-cooperating Satan worshipping human dupes, stooges and allies!

    For it comes straight from the DIVINE MIND and the DIVINE MOUTH of Almighty God Himself – the VERY FIRST ‘BIBLE PROPHECY’ – found at Genesis 3:15


    And THAT results in St. John inserting into the long list of Divine ‘Revelations’ to ALL of Mankind that particular verse of Revelation 12:17.

    Go look it up, go read it, go mull over that verse yourselves!

    I can’t FORCE people either in the Church or outside of the Church to BELIEVE let alone allowing themselves to UNDERSTAND something which is right in front of their two eyes and noses IF THEY DO NOT WANT TO BELIEVE IT and IF THEY DO NOT WANT TO ALLOW THEMSELVES TO UNDERSTAND IT!

    – +Fr. Joseph

    “At FATIMA, Our Lady declared ‘ONLY I CAN HELP YOU!'”

    The Popes and the Bishops of the Church Militant here on and all across our planet earth have, by their actions and their words, have publicly stated to God and to our entire Human Race


    And THAT is ‘Why?’ our entire Human Race is going TO SUFFER and ‘Why?’ we are witnessing and will experience ‘The Downfall Of The Human Race’ per St. Nilus’ 4th century prophecy regarding OUR times of the 20th century and beyond.

  72. The Brainy zek October 25, 2010 @ 11:28 am

    I have read every post on this future of America subject and notice one total disregard for a very real status: REVOLUTION IN AMERICA!!

    I certainly do NOT advocate revolution but sense that one is in the making just around the corner.

    I have spent the last five days reading everything possible about the very real revolution going on right now in France. It appears that the Zionist Jew Sarkozy will be on his way out. It also appears that the hangover effect of this revolution will be lethal and lasting!

    I sense that the Zio-Jews of America are starting to walk on little cat feet!

    Little sheenie Abie Foxman, big-nosed boss of the ADL got a Zio-controlled Congress to pass his sought after hate-crimes law over a year a year ago. This law flies directly in the face of the Constitution of the United States.

    By little Abie’s definition of hate crimes there are people to be picked up and prosecuted in every county of every state in America! Yet, a year later, no action!

    This same little ADL sheenie has prattled about the dire need to confiscate guns from the American populace. This also flies in the face of the Bill of Rights guaranteed to every American! Prattling for 12 years. NO ACTION!

    There is a post on Information Clearing House this day about a Republican Paul Ryan, congressman from Wisconsin to reduce benefits for all newcomers to social security 10 to 50 per cent.

    If Republicans win he will be in line for the Chairmanship of the House Budget Committee. He has been working with the chief actuary of the Social Security Administration. He claims 13 other Republicans support this legislation!

    All these kinds of issues can produce a FIREPOWER revolution the likes of which America has not witnessed!

  73. Brother Nathanael October 25, 2010 @ 1:31 pm

    @ Kurt

    This Web Site will only vanish if those who read it and those who post here refuse to contribute financially.

    Simply Click:

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    Donations By Mail: The Brother Nathanael Foundation / Or Brother Nathanael Kapner; PO Box 547; Priest River ID; 83856.

  74. Brother Nathanael October 25, 2010 @ 1:35 pm

    Dear Andrew –

    This is in addition to Fr Joseph’s response to you regarding the Most Holy Virgin Mary who prophetically predicted that “all nations would call her blessed,” which we of the Orthodox Church indeed do in accordance with “the Bible says it, I believe it, that settles it,” a popular evangelical saying.

    The Orthodox Church does not teach that the Virgin Mary (or anyone else) has a “sin nature.”

    The Orthodox Church rather teaches the “ancestral condemnation of death” passed on by Adam and Eve who were condemned to death through their disobedience.

    Thus the Virgin Mary was prone to death which inclines all men to sin, although she was sinless in that she never sinned, no, not once.

    Neither did St John the Baptist ever sin as he was filled with the Holy Spirit from the womb.

    This is the teaching of the Holy Orthodox Church of which I am a member.

    +Brother Nathanael
    Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia (ROCOR)

  75. x October 25, 2010 @ 1:47 pm

    Zionist beast al Qaida propaganda to fool Muslims and cause more hate fighting…

    Al Qaeda Video Asks Detroit-Area Muslims to Act.

  76. KathJuliane October 25, 2010 @ 1:54 pm

    Dear Andrew,

    Sin (Gr. hamartia) is literally “missing the mark.”

    The Orthodox object to the Western understanding of “original sin” as the stain of “inherited guilt” passed down from Adam, as a result of his sin, to the rest of the human race.

    Orthodoxy tends to see this notion as skewed, drawing almost exclusively on the thought of Blessed Augustine.

    He had virtually ignored the teachings of the Eastern Fathers, who tended to see original sin not as inherited guilt but rather as the “ancestral curse” by which human beings were alienated from the divine life and thus became subject to corruption and death.

    The western view was the result of the faulty translation of Romans 5:12, on which the teaching of original sin is based.

    When the original Greek is properly translated it reads, “Therefore as sin came into the world through one man and death through sin, and sin spread to all in that (eph ho) all sinned…”

    The Latin that Augustine used rendered the eph ho (“in that”) as in quo (“in whom”), meaning “in Adam.” From this came the forensic legalistic notion that the soul must “pay what it owes” in terms of not only personal guilt, but the inherited guilt of Adam.

    Thus the passage was misconstrued as saying that all sinned in Adam, and therefore all shared in the guilt of his original disobedience, rather than being a condition of alienation from God and thus all human kind became subject to death and corruption.

    Because of how this Catholic doctrine of original sin followed this misinterpretation, it is a major reason that the Orthodox rejected the doctrine of the Immaculate Conception as an innovation.

    Because the Orthodox understood “original sin” in terms of the ancestral curse of human mortality, they saw Pius IX’s dogma as amounting to no less than an assertion of Mary’s immortality.

    By saying that she was free of “original sin” in the sense of ancestral curse, the Roman Church in effect was saying that Mary was not mortal, and therefore not like the rest of the human race.

    Orthodoxy calls the Blessed Virgin Mary “the first of the redeemed” — the first human to receive the great blessing of salvation through Christ now available to all mankind.

    I hope this helps.

  77. charlie October 25, 2010 @ 3:24 pm

    All these kinds of issues can produce a FIREPOWER revolution the likes of which America has not witnessed.

    Brainy Zek this can only happen in a society with a free press.

    Even the Internet is not free. there are hundreds of thousands of Zionist and Masonic agents scouring the internet and getting stuff off of it before it goes viral.

    This is why there has been no revolution.

    People with inside information are silenced AS SOON as they appear.

    TEN YEARS after the biggest hoax in history;-

    “911 was an inside job!”

    Yeah? really?

    But what are you doing about it? What is anyone doing about it?

    Heck, it is the death event of America and YET what are all or any Americans doing about it?

    Nothing, except attack each other on which version of the event is the correct one.

  78. Andrew October 25, 2010 @ 3:39 pm

    Dear Brother Nathanael,

    Thank you for your response and for the others as well.

    Frankly, I was hesitant to write more than a few brief paragraphs on this subject as it is clearly off the topic of your video.

    What I wrote was primarily intended as a response to Laws632 who I thought was pretty close – and of course for anyone else who might be interested. I am aware that there are some very divergent views on this subject held by the frequent posters to this forum.

    Personally, I find this particular subject fascinating as it brings out the perfect working of God’s kingdom. I would be more than happy to discuss it at length, but I am almost certain it would result in a major and lengthy drift off topic.

    You have often said that you want the postings to be on topic, and if that is what you wish in this case, I will defer to your preference and refrain from further discussion of this subject. I do thank you for allowing me to get in my response to Laws632.


  79. Disgusted White Christian October 25, 2010 @ 4:44 pm

    Fr. Joseph, Pax Christi, my friend and brother.

    I hope you do, like Jesus with the Roman soldier, who said, “there is no need for you to defile yourself, I know you religion does not allow you to enter my home, but I know if you say the word, my servant will be healed.”

    Jesus said, “not amongst all my own people, have I seen such faith.” Of course his servant, near death, was healed.

    You Father Joseph, have such faith, it is refreshing, my brother.

    Bro Nate, you are good, very good in your understanding of Scripture, better than most!

    The LORD said, “Go out and stand on the mountain in the presence of the LORD, for the LORD is about to pass by.”

    Then a great and powerful wind tore the mountains apart and shattered the rocks before the LORD, but the LORD was not in the wind.

    After the wind there was an earthquake, but the LORD was not in the earthquake.

    After the earthquake came a fire, but the LORD was not in the fire. And after the fire came a gentle whisper. -1 Kings 19:11-12

    Kings is Old Testament, God has never changed from Old Testament to New Testament. His absence from us is what allows these horrific tragedies.

    Also, the destruction of Sodom, Lot was saved, because of his goodness and decency to the strangers (Angels in disguise) that he befriended. Sodom’s greater sin, and true abomination was not the sins of their body, but their heart.

    They robbed and murdered and any poor soul, who happened to wander into their little hell hole, the stranger would have been doomed.

    The sin that doomed them was in their hearts!

    Yes, Bro Nate, the Christ is all around us, as he promised the apostles “I will be with you to the end of time” this is meant for all of humanity.

    He is the Word of the living God, and nothing was made prior or since without coming from his precious mouth. HE WHO MADE THE WHOLE UNIVERSE, WOULDN’T BE PRESENT WITH US NOW ???


  80. charlie October 25, 2010 @ 7:08 pm

    This is controversial but I happen to believe it:

    The Catholic church teaches that the Mother of God, the Virgin Mary is the EXPIATRIX OF THE FAULT OF EVE, and not simply an incubator.

    Why the discussion is hard to fathom, for non-Catholics generally, is in regard to the original order which was prescribed from the very beginning of creation.

    According to sister Mary of Agreda’s Revelations in the “City of God”, Jesus was always going to become incarnate regardless of sin.

    He did not become one of us to unite us to Him in His Love and thus to the Father, simply because we sinned, although that sin prompted the laying down of his life for us.

    This order, when made known to the angels in Heaven was why the devil rebelled; and thus why he strove so hard for the fall of man.

    This is why the Virgin Mary is his arch enemy.

    This is how S Michael cut the devil to the quick with his battle-cry – “Who is like unto God!”

    This is why Jesus’ Death on the Cross repairs the damage of Satan’s rebellion in heaven as well, and not just mankind’s rebellion on earth.

    Lucifer’s jealousy got the better of him, and the angels who followed him. They could not perceive, and this was their test, that this order of things applied to the angels as well, for we are like the angels …. only “a little lower.”

    Hence the angels proclaimed the coming of Jesus in great joy….. and worship him unceasingly in Heaven singing,

    “Holy, holy holy, Lord God of Hosts.
    Heaven and earth are filled with your glory.
    Hosanna in the highest
    Blessed in He Who comes in the name of the Lord.
    Hosanna in the highest.”

    I highly recommend Volume I of the “City of God” – referring to the Virgin Mary, by sister Mary of Agreda in the 17th Century, the first apostle (through bi-location) to the Indians of Arizona and New Mexico, a documented fact.

    Chapter 15. pp.173-183 – “Of the Immaculate Conception of the Mother of God through Divine Power.”

  81. Adora October 25, 2010 @ 10:40 pm

    Has anyone noticed that the anti Christ Jews of Hollywood, are now using the Lord’s name as a curse word?

    In scenes where an actor is in a bad situation and should say, oh sh__, or f___, or dam_ (some type of curse word), he/she NOW says, “Jesus,” instead of the curse word.

    The name Jesus is now being used as a curse word in movies today. The Hollywood Jews have turned our Lord’s name into a curse word.

  82. Fr. Joseph October 25, 2010 @ 11:51 pm

    Let us talk with SINCERITY and in TRUTH to one another here on RZN regarding the Eastern Orthodox Church’s REJECTING the Catholic Church’s dogma of the Blessed Virgin Mary’s IMMACULATE CONCEPTION.

    The Eastern Orthodox Church REJECTS the dogma of the Mother of God’s Immaculate Conception….BECAUSE…the Patriarchs of all of the Eastern Orthodox Churchs REJECT the following

    1) The Bishop of Rome as ‘Holder of THE KEYS’ Episcopal Charism of INFALLIBILITY when making public proclamations regarding the Universal Church’s Faith and Morals, e.g. the Mother of God’s “IMMACULATE CONCEPTION” and

    2) The Bishop of Rome’s UNIVERSAL JURISDICTION over the entire Universal Church Militant here on earth.

    Now for some MORE sincerity and truth…

    For those who would ACCEPT KathJuliane’s explanation regarding ‘Original Sin’, it is necessary for the Patriarchs, Metropolitans, Bishops, Priests, Religious, Theologians and Laith of the Eastern Orthodox Churches TO REMOVE/ERRADICATE the following verses and passages from the Church’s Own Canon of Sacred CHRISTIAN Scripture:

    From the Gospel of St. Matthew, the EOCs must then remove, change or alter:

    Matthew 1:21; 3:6; 5:29-30; 6:14-15; 9:2; 9:5-6; 9:10-11; 9:13; 11:19; 12:31; 13:41; 18:6-9; 18:15; 18:21; 23:32; 26:28; 26:45; 27:4

    From the Gospel of St. Mark, the EOCs must then remove, change or alter:

    Mark 1:4-5; 2:5; 2:9-10; 2:15-17; 3:28-29; 8:38; 9:42-47; 11:25; 14:41

    From the Gospel of St. Luke, the EOCs must then remove, change or alter:

    Luke 1:4-5; 3:3, 5:8; 5:20-24; 5:30; 5:32; 6:32-34; 7:34; 7:37-39; 7:47-49; 11:4; 13:2; 15:1-2; 15:7; 15:10; 15:18; 5:21; 17:1-4; 18:13; 19:7; 24:7; 24:47

    From the Gospel of St. John, the EOCs must then remove, change or alter:

    John 1:29; 5:14; 8:7; 8:11; 8:21; 8:24; 8:34; 8:46; 9:2-3; 9:16; 9:24-25; 9:31; 9:41; 15:22-24; 16:8-9; 19:11; 19:42; 20:23

    From the Acts of the Apostles, the EOCs must then remove, change or alter:

    Acts 2:38; 3:19; 5:31; 7:60; 8:23: 10:43; 13:38; 22:16; 26:18

    From St. Paul’s Epistle to the ROMAN Church, the EOCs must then remove, change or alter:

    Romans 2:22; 3:7-9; 3:2-25; 4:7-8; 4:25; 5:12-14; 5:16; 5:19-21; 6:2; 6:6-7; 6:10-18; 6:20-23; 7:5; 7:7-9; 7:11; 7:13-14; 7:17-18; 7:20: 7:23: 7:25: 8:2-3; 8:5-9; 8:10; 8:12-13; 11:27; 13:14; 14:23

    From St. Paul’s Epistles to the GREEK Church in Corinth, the EOCs must then remove, change or alter:

    1 Corinthians 5:5; 6:18; 7:28; 7:36; 8:12-13; 11:27; 14:24; 15:3; 15:17; 15:34; 15:56

    2 Corinthians 5:9; 5:21; 11:7; 11:29; 12:21; 13:2

    And from the other Epistles of St. Paul the the Church in Galatia, Ephesus, Collasea, in Thessolonika, the EOCs must then remove, change or alter:

    Galatians 1:4; 2:17; 3:22; 5:13; 5:16-19; 5:24-25; 6:1; 6:8

    Ephesians 1:7; 2:1; 2:3; 4:26

    Colossians 1:14; 2:11; 2:13

    1st Thessalonians 2:16; 4:6

    St. Paul’s Apostolic Instructions given to the Church Militant’s BISHOP Timothy, the EOCs must then remove, change or alter:

    1 Timothy 1:9; 1:15-16; 2:14; 5:20; 5:22; 5:24

    2 Timonty 3:6

    From Titus, the EOCs must then remove, change or alter:

    Titus 3:11

    From the Letter to the Hebrews, the EOCs must then remove, change or alter:

    Hebrews 1:3; 2:17; 3:12-13; 3:17; 4:5; 5:1-3; 7:26-27; 8:12; 9:7; 9:15; 9:26; 9:28; 10:2-6; 10:8-13; 10:17-19; 10:21-22; 10:26; 11:25; 12:3-4; 13:11

    From the Espitle of St. James the Apostle to the Universal Church Militant, the EOCs must then remove, change or alter:

    James 1:15; 2:9; 4:8; 4:17; 5:15-16; 5:20

    From the Epistle of St. Peter, the first Bishop of Rome, holder of ‘The Keys’ and holder of the OFFICE of Head Shepherd conferred upon him by THE LOGOS Incarnate Himself Who just so happens to be JESUS, God’s Christ, to our entire Human Race living on this Planet Earth of HIS Creating and Constant Divine Sustaining, the EOCs must then remove, change or alter:

    1 Peter 2:11; 2:22; 2:24; 3:18; 4:1; 4:8; 4:18

    2 Peter 1:9; 2:4; 2:10; 2:14; 2:18

    From the Univeral Epistle of St. John the Lord’s Beloved Apostle, the EOCs must then remove, change or alter:

    1 John 1:7-10; 2:1-2; 2:12; 2:16; 3:4-9; 4:10; 5:16-17

    From the Apostle St. Jude’s Universal Epistle, the EOCs must then remove, change or alter:

    Jude 1:15

    And finally, the EOCs must then remove, change or alter DIVINE REVELATION as given to the Universal Church Militant here on this God-given, God-created and God-sustained Planet Earth in the BOOK OF REVELATION:

    Revelation 1:6; 2:14; 18:4-5

    In conclusion….IF the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of God, the MOST HOLY THEOTOKOS reveals herself to be, calls herself as being and declares herself to be God’s Own ‘IMMACULATE CONCEPTION’, then where in the heck to the Patriarchs, Metropolitans, Bishops, Priests, Religious, Theologians and members of the Laity of ALL of the Eastern Orthodox Churches get this ‘Idea’ that THEY CAN CONTEST what the Mother of God herself has to say ABOUT herself???


    – +Fr. Joseph

  83. charlie October 26, 2010 @ 2:52 am

    Out of the mouth of babes…..

    Ave Maria, sung by Jackie Evanco.

  84. Nicolae October 26, 2010 @ 4:51 am

    Brought to you by the chosen people.

    Debt Has Increased $5 Trillion Since Speaker Pelosi Vowed, ‘No New Deficit Spending’.

    When Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) gave her inaugural address as speaker of the House in 2007, she vowed there would be “no new deficit spending.”

    Since that day, the national debt has increased by $5 trillion, according to the U.S. Treasury Department.

    The Truth On Unemployment: It’s A Depression.

    Employment is WORSE than The Depression – now.

  85. The Brainy zek October 26, 2010 @ 8:17 am

    Brother Nathanael:

    Why did you delete my post in answer to Charlie??

  86. Brother Nathanael October 26, 2010 @ 9:23 am

    Dear Brainy zek –

    Your comment was deleted by mistake as there were nearly 200 spams this AM and yours was embedded in the midst of them.

    Please REPOST your Comment and it will be sure to go through… +bn

  87. Joseph October 26, 2010 @ 9:59 am

    Please do an article on the Jews behind the Autism Epidemic. Paul Offit, Kathleen Sebelius, the CDC, and Jew-owned Merck Corporation.

    Tell the people about the millions of American children poisoned with Mercury Vaccines.

    About the thousands of Mercury Poisoned Autistic children who are being murdered by their own parents out of sheer hopelessness and despair.

    Tell them about Paul Offit, whom invented the rotavirus vaccine and has made millions of dollars off the poisoning of innocent children.

    Tell the people how the Jew Media, Jew Government, and Jew Pharma Corps are poisoning the minds, hearts, and bodies of millions of American children. The truth needs to see the light of day.

    And the answer to the Jewish Question is simple and bloodless, mass-sterilization.

  88. The Brainy zek October 26, 2010 @ 10:42 am

    Brother Nathanael: Thank you VERY, VERY much!

    And by the way, your affirmative remarks of your meeting with the official of your Russian Orthodox were nothing short of HEARTWARMING!

  89. Hoff October 26, 2010 @ 11:46 am

    What people said about the Jew in history.

  90. The Brainy zek October 26, 2010 @ 11:59 am

    Charlie: Many thanks for your response to my post!

    When you say that there can be no revolution withhout control of the mediaI believe you are wrong.

    Zionists control the media in France but the French are still taking to the streets and blocking public transportation, ground and air! And it appears that their is over a minimal matter of raising the pension age from 60 to 62. This has taken place without media support!

    In America the revolution matter is way out extended in depth!!

    Private homes and small business sites control 300 million firearms with ammunitition!

    I believe if ANY agency would try to confiscate this firepower in direct violation of our bill of rights that 10 to 30 million Americans would take to the streets and word of mouth would quickly travel across the length and breadth of America!!

    Further, with the dumbing down of the American economy would produce a 20 or 30 percent reduction in social security payments, 20 to 50 million Americans would take to the streets.

    And word would travel fast that Israel was getting at least 30 billion dollars a year as a pure parasite play and hundreds of billions of dollars wasted on two wars that benefit only Israel.

    And Zio-Jew power and Zio-Jews could well be destroyed along with their television and radio facilities bulldozed like the 18 thousand Palestinians have been destroyed these past 60 years!!

    That is why I say that they have reached an impasse and are walking cautiously on little cat feet!

  91. Gregory Laux October 26, 2010 @ 12:23 pm

    To add to what Joseph said above on autism being created by the Jewish controlled drug companies, I have the following contributions:

    1. Thimerisol was removed in the manufacturing process and another neurotoxin, an aluminum derivative, was put in its place. This allows the drug companies to continue to lie and claim that there are still high rates of autism with thimerisol having been removed, so the thimerisol was not the cause of autism.

    2. I have stacks of peer reviewed documents here from foreign medical research facilities that establishes a clear link between neurological disorders in children and the excess neurotoxins they received in their childhood immunizations.

    3. The Amish communities have zero rates of autism of their own people, except a handful of cases where their people were vaccinated as children prior to going to live in the Amish communities.

    4. All press releases by these Jewish run drug companies always say that autism is both a genetic disorder and an environmentally caused disorder, where they use the last statement to cover their butts for the neurotoxins they inject directly into the bloodstreams of young children.

    I gather tons of information on autism on a regular basis because my brother has an autistic child and I have friends throughout the United States that I communicate with on a regular basis who have autistic children. I have spent over 10 years now reading and researching the evil human origin to autism.

  92. charlie October 26, 2010 @ 1:42 pm

    Gregory Laux and Joseph I am going to tell you how to help your autistic children.

    Detox. Detox. detox.

    Heavy metals cross the blood brain barrier and are trapped there. They cannot pass back unless they are combined with detox material which can pass over the blood brain barrier, attach themselves to the poison and return.

    I myself had DU poisoning. DU is a heavy metal and the procedure is the same for all heavy metals and neurotoxins.

    My grand nephew had autistic behaviour from vaccines. He will be the first to say I cured him.

    I cannot prescribe but I took bentonite clay, ALA (Alpha Lipoic acid – an amino acid manufactured by the body in smaller amounts) and L-cysteine – another amino acid.

    A GOOD quality Magnesium.

    I started on the Magnesium 1 month before I even got “infected” which enabled my body’s chemical and biological systems to be in better working order.

    I fasted with the bentonite clay drinks.

    Fasting itself is a natural detox system, so the two together, taking all of the above works superbly. You may eat if and when you have to, but use natural foods and drinks as much as posible to help the detox process.

    The above worked very quickly in my case to remove the DU which had recently been ingested from Syrian olives presumeably near the Iraq border (or right on the border).

    The Uranium was so concentrated on the outside of the olives you could taste it, despite their being immersed in marinade solution.

    The symptoms were typical for uranium poisoning.

    Complete cellular malfunction resulting in an unbelieveable tiredness throughout my entire body resulting in inability to work.

    The detox was 100% effective. My stool glowed neon orange and I remembered the nickname for uranium in this country – “yellowcake.” And all symptoms disappeared.

    Sick vets take note.

    With my nephew it took a couple of weeks, maybe a little more to see and feel a marked change.

    I told the autism foundation here about it and was laughed off their site, so good luck, and have a nice day.

    Anyone with gallstones can get rid of them easily and effectively as well without removing your gall bladder – which is organ.

  93. Kurt October 26, 2010 @ 2:16 pm

    I challenge everyone to give. I did.

  94. Disgusted White Christian October 26, 2010 @ 4:32 pm

    Israeli Website Exposes Jewish Extremism!
    –commentary by David Duke

    My recent video on Jewish extremism has garnered a lot of interest. The following is an article titled Gentiles in Halacha from the Daat Emet Website in Israel.

    Daat Emet is a secular site written by Jews who reject the Jewish Supremacy that forms the core of Judaism.

    In Daat Emet you will find validated almost all my assertions about Jewish supremacy that I have made in my articles on, in my books, and in my many lectures around the world.

    For pointing out the extreme ethnic hate and supremacist nature of Judaism I am often incorrectly condemned and slandered as anti-Semitic.

    Yet, the extreme hatred and body of Jewish law against Gentiles (and also against Jewish women) is almost completely unknown to most Gentiles as the Jewish-dominated media keeps people in complete ignorance of Jewish extremism.

    Interestingly, the same press that suppresses awareness of Jewish extremism constantly tells the world about the dangers of Muslim extremism.

    Yet, it is Jewish extremism that led directly to the terrorism and ethnic cleansing that created Israel, that tortured more than a hundred thousand Palestinians and other Arabs in their prisons, and that terrorized and harmed millions of people such as in the recent attacks on Lebanon.

    The Jewish extremists are fomenting the so-called War on Terror and they are the ones who created the disastrous Afghanistan and Iraq War, wars for Israel not America. The Halacha is the core of Jewish Law.

    Halakha (Hebrew: הלכה; also transliterated as Halakhah, Halacha, Halakhot and Halachah) is the collective corpus of Jewish religious law, including biblical law (the 613 mitzvot) and later talmudic and rabbinic law as well as customs and traditions.

    Like the religious laws in many other cultures, Judaism classically draws no distinction in its laws between religious and non-religious life.

    Hence, Halakha guides not only religious practices and beliefs, but numerous aspects of day-to-day life.- from Wikipedia

    One of the core doctrines of the Halacha is that Gentiles (all non-Jews) are not human beings but animals.

    Correspondingly, it teaches that it is permissible for Jews to kill, harm, cheat, and steal from Gentiles, in fact such is sometimes even commanded by their law.

    It actually teaches that Gentiles are in three categories, those that obey all seven Noahide Laws (though in practice no Gentiles fit this category), Gentiles who do not keep the Noahide Laws, and Gentiles who are Idolater Gentiles (as Halacha considers all Christians).

    We learn from the laws that we wrote here that there are three levels of killing one who is not a Jew: One, if he is a Noahide Gentile, fulfilling the seven laws – a Jew who kills him is not liable to death by the courts as he would be had he killed a Jew, but he is liable to death by the hands of Heaven.

    The second is a Gentile who does not keep the seven Noahide laws (and we know of no Gentile who keeps the seven Noahide laws) – this one may be killed, but the Jews are not commanded to kill him.

    The third is an actual idolatrous Gentile (as Halacha considers all Christians): it is a commandment to kill him.

    The Rama, in Yoreh Deah 158, section one, writes: “And therefore one is allowed to try medicines on Gentiles to see if they help.”

    This is an explicit halachic license to perform medical experimentation by force on Gentile slaves bought by Jews. – from Parashat Maatot on Daat Emet website.

    I urge every reader of to thoroughly read this important Jewish website.

    It offers a portal to the world that our controlled media does not permit you to see. But, once you are aware of this world, you will begin to understand the source of many of the critical issues facing us. — David Duke


  95. Fr. Joseph October 26, 2010 @ 4:42 pm

    One can only WONDER –

    How many people come to Br. Nathanael’s RZN website in order TO FEED & FEAST UPON the information he so tirelessly SACRIFICES HIMSELF, in order to get this information of his DELIVERED to everyone in our ENTIRE WORLD who has a personal computer and access to the Internet!

    Here is ONE DECENT PERSON, one DECENT HUMAN BEING, a member of the Russian Orthodox Church, doing ALL OF THIS WORK for everyone throughout our entire World via the Internet, and he can’t even get enough money donated to him in order TO PAY FOR his website’s expenses.

    And he cannot even get some measely donations in order TO SET UP a Nativity Scene there in Frisco, Colorado after incurring LEGAL FEES in order to SET UP that Nativity Scene which the town/city of FRISCO, COLORADO was legally OBLIGATED to allow for him to do IN THE VERY FIRST PLACE!

    The Russians or the Chinese MIGHT AS WELL put FRISCO, COLORADO on their nuclear strike list since there is NOT MUCH CIVIL RESPONSIBILITY being conducted on a DAILY BASIS there in Frisco, Colorado as well!

    Just a lot more “socially sophisticated” JESUS CHRIST-REJECTING/HATING promoted, defended and promulgated via mere mortal human beings’ SOCIAL/LEGAL CONVENTIONS in and from the people of Frisco, Colorado as is the case from virtually EVERY LAST CITY, TOWN, BOROUGH, HAMLET throughout our contemporary United States of America!

    Well, those NUKES haven’t gone of as of yet. So there is still some small period of time available for the WORLDWIDE READERS of Br. Nathanael’s RZN website to do SOMETHING to show their spiirtual gratitude and thanksgiving to “their GOD” in having gone out of His Way in POSTPONING this global thermonuclear exchange about to befall all of us.

    For all of those who identify themselves as followers of, or boast of, their allegiance to CHRIST JESUS and His Apostolic CHRISTIAN Faith;

    Who WILL NOT assist Br. Nathanael in doing this ONE DECENT THING – the setting up of a Nativity Scene in the parks of the next-to-spiritually-useless US town of FRISCO, Colorado – go “break out YOUR Bibles” and GO READ what St. James the Lord’s Own Apostle has to SAY TO EACH AND EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU!

    “Take the case, my brothers, of someone who HAS NEVER done a single good act BUT CLAIMS that he/she/they ‘have the Faith’.

    “Will that Faith SAVE him/her/them?

    If one of the brothers (e.g. +Br. Nathanael and his RZN & BNF) or one of the sisters IS IN NEED OF clothes (or FUNDS) and has not enough food (and NOT ENOUGH to pay to have a DECENT THING done in Frisco, Colorado) to live on, and one of you says to them (or, to +Br. Nathanael) ‘I WISH YOU WELL! KEEP YOURSELF WARM AND EAT PLENTY! (AND KEEP ON DOING ALL OF THOSE WONDERFUL RZN & BNF ‘GOOD WORKS’! You make us all feel so ‘peachy-keeny’ and ‘righteous’ and ‘doing something FOR the Lord’!) WITHOUT GIVING THEM THE BARE (FINANCIAL) NECESSITIES of life (and the RZN/BNF Mission and Ministry to the Entire World), then WHAT GOOD IS THAT?

    “Faith is like that; if GOOD WORKS do not go with it, it is QUITE DEAD!” (good description of the civil/social community there making up Frisco, Colorado!)

    “This is the way to talk to people of THAT kind: ‘You say you have FAITH and I have GOOD DEEDS; I will prove to you that I have faith BY SHOWING YOU my good works – now YOU PROVE TO ME that you have faith without ANY good works to show.

    “You believe in the One God – that is creditable enough, but THE DEMONS HAVE THE SAME BELIEF, and they tremble with fear. Do realise, YOU SENSELESS PEOPLE, that faith without good works IS USELESS!”

    Go ahead, “I Dare You!,” open up ‘your Bibles’ to the Epistle of St. James – James 2:14-20.

    AND ALL OF YOU can go marching off in a huff in order to GO ASK YOUR ‘PASTORS’ there in ANY ‘church’ throughout the U.S.A. or throughout the World, from ANY ‘demonination’ you care to address or belong to, whether or not St. James actually TEACHES with Christ Jesus’ Own Apostolic Authority what I’ve just quoted to all of you.

    Now lookie here – you make up your minds and look deep down into your HEARTS – is +Br. Nathanael WORTH and WORTHY of some of your NEXT-TO-USELESS and ALMOST-NEXT-TO-VALUELESS Federal Reserve Notes which ALL OF YOU are so clinging onto and hording away AS IF those fiat-script-currencies notes are YOUR absolutely last source of security, safety and salvation???

    Now it is the WISDOM of the Church Militant’s teaching here on earth that you ARE to take care of yourself, your families and loved ones – but to ALWAYS bear in mind that there ARE others who really and truly DO need your help WITHOUT THE NEED to throw into jeapordy your own families in order to help out a ‘total stranger’!

    If you have some ‘SLUSH’ money, then why allow it to sit their IDLE, not doing you or the strangers or +Br. Nathanael ANY GOOD WHATSOEVER?

    +Br. Nathanael has told ALL OF YOU that which he desires TO DO with the funds any and all of you MIGHT sent to him.

    That’s a FAR, FAR CRY from what those holed up in Washington D.C. who take / demand / confiscate your MONEY and then go do THE MOST DAMNABLE THINGS with all of that money, those funds of yours!

    Go off by yourselves and SERIOUSLY THINK ABOUT IT – is whatever contribution that you CAN EASILY SPARE and READILY SENT TO +Br. Nathanael and his Nativity Scene Fund, his RZN operating funds or his BNF project funds MONEY-WELL-SPENT, or is it MONEY-WASTED-BY-POLITICIANS-LAWYERS-BANKERS-and-NEXT-TO-USELESS-PUBLIC-SERVANTS-and-CIVIL-AUTHORITIES???

    – +Fr. Joseph

  96. Disgusted White Christian October 26, 2010 @ 4:43 pm

    Judaism – Now it’s a Front

    Great Youtube video


  97. Hoff October 26, 2010 @ 6:37 pm

    The headline is: The Destiny Of America.

    Let’s look at real history, not the Jew-crap on Jew-run Hitlery Channel, but the real deal, what really happened in the Jew run Soviet.

    This is what the Jews want, but this time on a global, worldwide scale. And no! This is no joke. The Jews did this before and the Jews’ plan is to do it again, but this time it’s the whole world.

    In the U.S.S.R. anti-semitism is punishable with the utmost severity of the law as a phenomenon deeply hostile to the Soviet system. Under U.S.S.R. law active anti-semites are liable to the death penalty.

    J. Stalin

    January 12, 1931

    Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30

    Straight from the horse’s mouth.

  98. Hoff October 26, 2010 @ 6:51 pm

    Hoff to DWC:

    M o s c o w • 1 9 5 4

    Scroll down and read the headline for the Contents: From Marx to Mao.

    Now we got one benchmark in the Mao Mocba-Jews relationship. By 1954 Mao hadn’t kicked out the Moscow-Jews – yet.

    lf Mao had there would not be one single mention about no Mao. You see how easy it is to read the Jews?

  99. charlie October 26, 2010 @ 9:58 pm

    Fr Joseph “feed and feast upon” ? that should garner a lot of donations….not.

    I don’t know about anyone else but that’s as far as I got with your post.

    Try and make an examination of conscience before the Blessed Sacrament.

  100. jett October 26, 2010 @ 11:40 pm

    Fr Joseph —

    Jesus Christ is the FOUNDATION of the Church, not His mother.

    NOWHERE in the HOLY BIBLE, which everyone reads

  101. jett October 26, 2010 @ 11:47 pm

    Fr Joseph,

    Oh great, the trutherators again — stop messing with Jesus’ words and prophecy.

    What He says will happen, you can’t stop it. Rewrite the Bible == not. Jesus said Love your enemies and pray for them!!

    You’re just like your enemies. You don’t believe Jesus because you don’t trust HIM to take care of this.


  102. Hoff October 27, 2010 @ 12:15 am

    The origins of the interest in Patagonia go back much further.

    More than a century ago, the founder of the National Zionist political movement, Teodoro Herzl, in his original work: “The Jewish State” (Ein Judenstaat, Vienna, 1896), exposed an unusual proposal for the creation of an own national State for the Jews, in a chapter that takes the suggestive title: “Palestine or Argentina?”.

    In the same work, Herzl proposes to create two Jewish States: One in the Biblical historical land and another one in our country [Argentina]

  103. Brother Nathanael October 27, 2010 @ 12:49 am

    Dear Jett –

    The moderation team has been instructed that all Commentators are to address others by their acknowledged and professional titles.

    Thus, the moderation team added “Fr” to your address of “Joseph” in your response to his postings.

    Please abide by this rule dear Jett. +BN

  104. solobiblia October 27, 2010 @ 3:03 am

    Beloved Christian family.

    Every day I thank God by the existence of this blog.

    The Shocking Role of Jews in Slavery – PART 1

    Matthew 10:26:

    Have, then, no fear of them: because nothing is covered which will not come to light, or secret which will not be made clea.r

  105. x October 27, 2010 @ 4:36 am

    Zionist beast, the only terrorists-murderers-opressors-exploiters on the planet murdered again.

    Officials: U.S. Missile Strikes Kill 5 in Pakistan

  106. Glory B. October 27, 2010 @ 5:32 am

    Instead of “The Destiny of America,” this essay should be titled, “The Death of America.”

    Or Bro. Nathanael should write one of his very profound pieces on “The Death of America.”

    Let’s face it, people: THE JEWS ARE WINNING.

    Jew-bankers dominate the financial system, Jew-media owners poison print media and the airwaves with hatred of Jesus Christ, Jew-movie producers push filthy movies on dumb Gentiles, Jew-educators take Christ out of our schools and poison our children’s minds with their “brotherhood of man” crap.

    Elections are a fraud. Whether the Democrats win, or the Republicans, or the Tea Party, the Jews are always in control.

    I’m reminded of words that Adolf Hitler wrote (I’m paraphrasing here): Turn over any rock, and beneath it you’ll find a filthy kike, like a maggot, wriggling to get out of the light.

    I disagree with most of what Hitler stood for, including (as a former Jew) his belief that “once a Jew, always a Jew.” Rather I stand with Our Lord, that anyone who believes in Him and accepts Him as the True Messiah is forgiven, and is eligible to return with Him to Heaven on the Day of Judgment.

    And Hitler was wrong in trying to take over the world. He got too greedy, and God saw to it that he was punished.

    But Hitler was right about the Jews. He believed that the Jews are mankind’s worst enemy, and if the Jews win, the rest of us lose.

    Hitler tried to prevent that by exterminating the Jewish pest, and he almost succeeded, except that he didn’t have time to finish the job. So it’s up to us.

    Jewry must be destroyed, and non-Jews must turn over their lives to Christ, or the human race will perish!

  107. marshall[Maher-shalal-hash-baz] October 27, 2010 @ 5:49 am

    The Satanic Jews are doing their best to try to destroy our Lord and SAVIOUR Jesus Christ.

    Let’s not help them by distorting, Jew style, the WORD of the Bible.

    In St Luke 1:46-47 it says: “And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord. And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my SAVIOUR.”

    If Mary had been born of the “Immaculate Conception” why would she need a SAVIOUR? Only we sinners need a SAVIOUR, the only man born with out sin is THE LORD JESUS CHRIST!!!

  108. The Brainy zek October 27, 2010 @ 8:09 am

    Glory B:

    I want to thank you first for acknowledging your approval of my assessment of the filthy Talmud.

    But ahead of that your coming onto this site with a dedication of purpose that is inspiring!

    God bless you sir! I doff my hat!

  109. Donna chestergimli October 27, 2010 @ 8:14 am

    Marshall, you forgot verse 48, “Because he hath regarded the humility of his handmaid; for behold from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.”

    God planned her for a long, long time to be his human mother for His Incarnation. She is the woman of women thoughtout the entire universe. Her spirit was preordained. Since God hates sin so much, it only makes common sense that he would want her to be born without original sin so that God the Son could be born of her.

    I wonder why the Protestant faiths shun her so much. How do they think that they would feel if their own lives were praised and their own mother pushed into the background? Well, Jesus feels the same way.

    Protestants should be very careful about their treatment of the Mother of God. And Jesus Christ was the only man born without sin. But Mary is a woman.

    That being said, I would like to share with Glory B and others some my interpretations of a couple of chapters of the Apocalypse. And that is Chapter 12. You all will have to get out your bibles because I am not going to type word for word.

    Verse 1 – Talks about the women clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars.

    Verse 2 says she is with child.

    Verse 3 talks of the dragon and how he casts a third of the stars to earth and stands to devour her son.

    Verse 4 talks about her man child who was to rule all nations with an iron rod but he was taken up to God and his throne.

    Verse 6 says that she fled into the wilderness where she should be fed a thousand six hundred sixty days.

    Verses 7-9 speaks about the battle between Michael and his angels and the dragon and his angels and how they were thrown down to earth.

    Verses 10-12 speaks about the angelic news of salvation to the world because the devil has been thrown down and defeated and he knows that now he has but a short time.

    Verses 10-18 speaks about his persecution of the woman and how he tried to cast out of his mouth water as a river that he might cause her to be carried away but the earth helped the woman, opened her mouth an swallowed the river which the devil cast out of his mouth.

    And the dragon was angry against the woman ; and went to make war with the rest of her seed, who keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ and he stood upon the and of the seas.

    I think that what this chapter is about is the event of Fatima. The masons in the 19th century had already said that they were going to infiltrate the church and get one of their own elected to the papacy.

    I believe this to be the meaning of the dragon casting a third of the stars (priests) down to earth. The child that she was traviling in birth with was the 3rd secret of Fatima that both Mary and the Church wanted to be delivered to the earth.

    I have to agree with Father Gruner of the Fatima Apostolate that the 3rd part was a indictment of the Second Vatican Council. It was never released, not even in that bogus release of 2000 so it went up to Heaven to God.

    The third secret would have stopped the 2nd Vatican Council in its tracks as it was supposed to be released no later than 1960. The Second Vatican Council took place and the third part of the stars were instrumental in pushing it though.

    The Virgin and the Church, which are represented by the vision of the woman clothed with the sun, fled into the wilderness. The dragon tried to drown her out and put her to an end but people like Archbishop Marcel Levebvre and the Society of St. Pius X have kept the faith alive and intact.

    Then the dragon (and his Jewish agents in the physical-biological domain) do everything possible to dismantle the Catholic faith. And he stood upon the sand of the sea seems to say that he had control over the Earth.

    So yes indeed, Glory B, the devil is in command here. But remember, this is Our Lord’s, His Father’s, and the Holy Ghost’s victory. All we need to do is keep the faith and inform others to the best of our ability.

    I must also add that the Virgin Mary at Fatima said that war was a punishment sent by God for sin. This does not mean that God sends war to us as Father Gruner has written but that he allows it to happen.

    For this reason, I believe that Chapter 15 verses 14 through 20 are a prediction of WW’s I and 2. All of you read this carefully and you may see what I mean. So the devil rules right now. But he will soon be destroyed.

    Then we will all raise our voices in song and gladness.

  110. jett October 27, 2010 @ 9:56 am

    What does Fr. mean? There is only one FATHER.

    I pray for FR JOSEPH to realize the lies he has been told by his church. Why doesn’t the RCC let it’s parishoners read the HOLY BIBLE? Because they exalt themselves and deny the true HOLY SPIRIT.

    The Old Testament is THE WORD OF GOD. IT preserves the geneaology of the SEED of God all the way to JESUS. Why keep this fact hidden from a Billion deceived catholic faithful?

    We know and Br Nathanael, you should know how the Jews infiltrated ALL the churches with lies to take the peoples’ eyes off the prize, JESUS, the greatest gift to all mankind.

    The Beast rising from the sea had seven heads and ten horns. The SEA is gentiles. The seven heads are the seven churches that are apostate and the 10 horns are the governments.

    Read Daniel 7 also and Revelations.The Bible has ALL the answers and you don’t need a church, priest, bishop or any man to receive the GIFT from Jesus. Read the beatitudes (sermon on the mount) of JESUS.


    JESUS SAID PRAY FOR YOUR ENEMIES AND MINISTER TO THEM. It’s easy to preach to believers. The work is converting the the athiest and the Jews. You will gather no bees with vinegar, but by honey alone. Hatred breeds Hatred.

    God bless all the non-believers and pour Your Holy Spirit on those that are afflicted with the lies of satan, the deceiver.

    Take your eyes off of what is wrong and focus on the True love of Jesus Christ, Yehshua. Love thy neighbor. Love thy neighbor. Feed the poor, help the widow and comfort the sick and affirmed. Jesus’ own words. Love is the antithesis of evil and is 10 fold more powerful.

    God bless you all in Jesus Christ name. Amen.

  111. x October 27, 2010 @ 10:01 am

    Zionist Israhelli-CIA-Mossad-MI5 agent “Bin Laden” strikes again.

    Bin Laden blames French “injustice” for abductions: report.

  112. x October 27, 2010 @ 10:03 am

    And see this. Zionist mafia always finance both sides of the conflict. See this.

    Up to $1 Billion in U.S. Aid Winds Up In Taliban Coffers.

  113. Fr. Joseph October 27, 2010 @ 10:09 am


    Everyone “and their BROTHER” here on RZN all have ‘The Answer’ and they ALL have ‘The Solution’ as to what needs to be DONE in order TO FIX/REPAIR/REMEDY our current World’s VEXING SATANIC PROBLEMS!

    And every last one of you take it upon yourselves to ‘Pontificate’ to me as to what I AM DOING ‘WRONG’ in my attempts to INFORM and EDUCATE people the World over via this RZN website and the Internet as to WHAT is God’s Own Divine SOLUTION.

    So then…INSTEAD OF ALL OF YOU sitting there nice and comfy-cozy PERCHED high and aloof in your “Luxury Suites” as you CRITICIZE my own “playing SHORT-STOP” here on the real-life lived-life ‘BASEBALL FIELD’.

    I thus “CHARGE” ALL OF YOU to start PRODUCING some tangible effects in the minds and hearts of people the world over (to INCLUDE the Church Militant here on earth I might add!) and…

    ..I hereby ‘CHARGE ALL OF YOU’ to PRODUCE for our World and for the Church WHAT IT IS THAT IS NEEDED TO BE ‘DONE’ IN ORDER TO DEFEAT SATAN, HIS LEGIONS OF ELEMENTAL DEMONICS RUNNING AMOCK ALL ACROSS OUR WORLD as well as all of his SATANIC human allies, stooges and dupes who have EVERY INTENTION of killing all of you off!

    There ya’ll go!

    The RESPONSIBILITY for the Church and for ALL OF MANKIND is now ‘TRANSFERRED SQUARELY’ upon all of your shoulders!

    Have A Nice Day! 🙂

    “Whatever town or village you go into, ask for someone trustworthy and stay with him until you leave. As you entire his house, salute it, and if the house deserves it, let your peace descend upon it; if it does not, let your peace come back to you.

    “And if ANYONE does not welcome you OR LISTEN to what you have to say, as you WALK OUT of the house or town SHAKE THE DUST FROM YOUR FEET.

    “I tell you solemnly, on the Day of Judgement it will not go as hard with the land of Sodom and Gomorrah as with that town. Remember, I am sending you out like sheep AMONG WOLVES; so be cunning as serpents and yet as harmless as doves” – Jesus Christ THE LORD – Matthew 10:11-16

    I haven’t set off mini-nukes in the basement of YOUR houses!

    I haven’t set off DEPLETE URANIUM muntions over your cities, towns and fields!

    I haven’t POISONED your Gulf of Mexico or your Oceans!

    I haven’t sprayed all of you down with CHEMTRAILS!

    I haven’t thrown your local, regional or national ECONOMIES into utter chaos NOR have I robbed a single red-cent from ANY of you!

    I have NOT sent your sons and daughters by the bushelsful to go fight ANY Wars-For-Profit-and-Fun!

    I have NOT sold any DRUGS or PORNOGRAPHY to any of your own family members or relatives!

    I have NOT “pimped” any of your DAUGHTERS!

    And finally, I have NEVER LIED to any of you!

    …so I’ve been as HARMLESS-AS-A-DOVE to each and every last one of you!

    So there you all go – if you are all going to get so ‘Poopsy-Whoopsy-Up-In-Arms’ over the way I “dare” to EXPRESS MYSELF and in the way I EXPRESS MY DEEPEST CONCERNS FOR ALL OF YOU and your families and your relatives and your friends – then GO LEARN SOMETHING about our Church Militant’s HISTORY and about her DIVINE MISSION to our entire Human Race!

    Go ‘CONDEMN/ADMONISH/CRITICIZE’ on St. Vincent Ferrer who PULLED-NO-PUNCHES with the national populations of the entire continent of EUROPE!

    So now – I’ll be perching MYSELF in this ‘High and Mighty Lofty Luxury Suite’, taking very critical and detailed NOTES about who ALL OF YOU are “playing the Game” of trying TO SAVE the Church and all of Mankind from SATAN’S vicious malaciousness vs. ALL OF YOU!

    – +Fr. Joseph

    And I used to think that ‘Salus Animus Suprema Lex’ WAS the ‘SUPREME LAW’ and the ‘SUPREME GOAL’ of the Lord’s Own CHURCH here on earth!

    Lots and lots of you here on RZN have ‘CONVINCED’ me that THAT is most assuredly NOT the Case!

  114. Dafydd October 27, 2010 @ 11:02 am

    “And Hitler was wrong in trying to take over the world. He got too greedy, and God saw to it that he was punished.”

    Where is the evidence that Adolph Hitler wanted to take over the world?

    “Hitler tried to prevent that by exterminating the Jewish pest, and he almost succeeded, except that he didn’t have time to finish the job. So it’s up to us.”

    Where is the evidence that Jews were exterminated? And where is the documented evidence of this intent?

  115. x October 27, 2010 @ 11:43 am

    New Zionist terror joke.

    What a day, Bin Laden and al Qaeda terrorist.

    While Washington = al Qaeda = Israhell.

    Alert: A 34-year-old man has been taken into custody for allegedly trying to help Al Qaeda plan multiple bombings around the Washington, D.C., area — including the Arlington Cemetery Metrorail station.

    See the line: “He tried to help what he believed to be Al Qaida.”

    They are doing same with drugs from Columbia and Afghanistan. They sell drugs and fool people and then they arrest them.

    Completely same formula. Why do you think Israhell is a Columbian ally, and the Zionist US is in Columbia and Afghanistan?

    See Jew Zionist terror hoax propaganda.

    One fooled and arrested (or maybe even lies), and here we go again with the “growing threat.”

    Do you see the joke? While the Zionist beast is the only terrorist and murderer on the planet.

    American Al Qaeda Poses Growing Threat (video).

  116. charlie October 27, 2010 @ 5:22 pm

    Fr. Joseph.

    “The RESPONSIBILITY for the Church and for ALL OF MANKIND is now ‘TRANSFERRED SQUARELY’ upon all of your shoulders”

    Wow, that must be a load off.

    Time for some R & R then for God? it?

  117. Glory B. October 27, 2010 @ 7:09 pm

    Dear Dafydd,

    Did I get your name right? Or should it be Daffy? And what does the dd stand for, Daffy Duck?

    Well, Mr. Daffy Duck, if you’re too blind or too stubborn, or maybe too ignorant, to acknowledge that Hitler (incidentally, his first name is spelled Adolf with an “f,” not Adolph with a “ph) intended to exterminate the Jews — and made a darn good attempt at it.

    Or that he tried to take over the world. Well, maybe not the world, just Austria, Albania, Algeria, Belarus, Belgium, Bulgaria, Danzig, Denmark, part of Egypt, Estonia, France, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Latvia, Libya, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Moldova, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Romania, Russia, Sudetenland, Tunisia, Ukraine, Yugoslavia.

    And he would have conquered Great Britain if the English had not been so pigheaded as to refuse to give in — hmmmm, have I missed anyone?, then I certainly am incapable of changing your mind or convincing you otherwise.

    Perhaps you believe that places like Auschwitz, Mauthausen, Sobibor, Treblinka, etc., were holiday camps for the Jews provided by the generous German government.

    If so, here’s a Web site for you to look at. I’m sure you’ll enjoy it.

    There is also a film, called “Memory of the Camps,” which you might want to watch, if you’ve got the stomach for it. Here’s the link:

    I suggest you read Mein Kampf from cover to cover to learn of Hitler’s intentions vis a vis the Jews or his desire for “lebensraum.”

    As I’ve said in previous posts, I have no love for the Jews. But I’m not so stupid as to think that I would have survived if I had lived in any of those above countries when Hitler ruled Germany.

    As a former Jew who left that demonic belief system and turned my life over to Our Lord Jesus Christ, I have a unique perspective on world events that I suspect you lack.

    It’s well known what the Jews are doing to the Palestinians, and what they are doing to America, and every other country that they can get their hands on. So Hitler was successful in breaking the Jewish hold on Germany, and much of the rest of the world, and I applaud him for that.

    Now, Mr. Daffy Duck, I’ve had enough of trying to tutor you on World War II and the aftermath. You are entitled to your opinion and I to mine.

    By the way, don’t waste your time replying to this post, as I ain’t going to respond to any more of your foolishness!

  118. marshall[Maher-shalal-hash-baz] October 28, 2010 @ 5:25 am


    The SATANIC JEWS are about to destroy us and we are perpetuating an argument that the LIGHT OF CHRIST would like us to GET PAST!

    As a former Jew I know how the Jew mind can warp the truth, THE LORD JESUS CHRIST also knew this in the way the Pharisees would try to trick him in their arguments!

    JUST READ THE BIBLE! Pray that CHRIST will give you by GRACE only the WISDOM to understand it! DO NOT ADD TO THE WORD OF GOD!

    Revelation 22:18 “For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book.”

    And yes Donna, you can not do it either, because you are not a man as mentioned here, but a woman!!!

  119. Donna chestergimli October 28, 2010 @ 8:21 am

    Marshall, clarify yourself.

    What is it you say that I have added or taken away from the Apocalypse.

    One never understands what is going to happen in prophesies until after it has happened. And this is how I come by my understanding.

    So pray tell how I have added or subtracted to the Apocalypse.

  120. Donna chestergimli October 28, 2010 @ 8:39 am

    Glory B, Dafydd questioned where is the evidence that Jews were exterminated.

    There are many who sit in jail because they questioned this so called holocaust. The results that they had from tests were witheld.

    The Jews have used the holocaust as a means of getting what they wanted but they will not answer the charges of people like Alexander Solzhenitsyn (I probably mispelled his last name) who says that the Jews were behind the mass killing of Russians and starvation of the Ukrainians.

    The fact of it is, the Rothschild banks were in control of Germany and everone else and funded the Germans. Do you think that the Germans would do, or not do, something that the Jew Rothschilds didn’t want?

    The Jews are supposedly a minority of the human race. Do you think that the Jewish leaders would want their army reduced by 6 million?

    And what about the 6 million Jews that suffered during WWI that I have read about. I guess that part of Tom Foolery fell through because that bit of brainwashing wasn’t bloody enough to elicit attention.

    No, they needed something worse.

    So they invented the holocaust. By this means, they have sucked billions of deutschmarks out of Germany and loads of sympathy from the rest of the world. And they got Palestine and the continued subjugation of the Palestinian people free and clear. And all on what I believe to be a hoax.

  121. Dafydd October 28, 2010 @ 12:25 pm

    Glory B

    Dafydd is Welsh for David, you ignoramus.

    I have read Mein Kamph (the unabridged version) translated by James Murphy in Abbots Langley in 1938. This was recognized as an authentic translation by National Socialist Germany at the Time. No where in Mein Kamph does he talk of world conquest.

    Read it again, and stop flaunting your ignorance for evey passer buy to see.

    There is no documented evidence of any intention to exterminate Jews, unless you have seen documentation to the contrary.

    Large numbers died in the camps from starvation, typhus and malnutrition, this does not constitute a program of extermination.

    Google “Did six million really die” for starters. And “The Hoax of the Twentieth Century” By A R Butz, who was, or still is, head of engineering at North West University.

    And stop being so hysterical and repeating the official version of history; and start thinking outside the box and start establishing the facts.

    And I am not interested whether you accept this post or not, as it is addressed only for those who are truly open minded and can think outside the box.

    This obviously excluded yourself, and your hysterical rantings.

  122. Dafydd October 28, 2010 @ 12:43 pm

    Glory B

    Most of your reply to me is so off the mark regarding the facts and real history that I can not believe that you post on a site like this with such well researched posts.

    If you did some real in depth research of history and the flow of history, you would realize that this subject is far more complex than your childish grasp of this period of history, as you are more akin to the great brainwashed public, with your Pavlovian response.

    Now answer my questions in a well thought out and informed way, (with proven facts and documentation) without the unnecessary abuse.

  123. KathJuliane October 28, 2010 @ 4:07 pm

    Dear Glory B,

    Dafydd is a very ancient Christian name dating back to the Brythonic Celts (Bretons, now Welsh) in old Britannia (Latin, from the Gk. Prettanike or Brettaniai).

    The Greek geographer and historian Strabo of about 64 bc was familiar with Keltia, and Transalpine Gaul, Britain, Ireland, and Thule.

    The Celtic peoples were among the first evangelized in New Testament times.

    Dafydd is also an anointed Christian throne name.

    The kingdom of Gwynedd emerged in 5th-century post-Roman Britain became a principality in the 12 century, and as I dimly recall, there were several princes, and at least one King Dafydd of Gwynedd, as well as at least one famous Welsh poet also named Dafydd.

    Maybe my brother in Christ, Dafydd, might help clarify this part of Welsh Christian history if he cares to.

    Also Glory B, for your edification, (and maybe something new for Dafydd), unknown to many now, Christianity in Ireland and Wales does have an Apostolic foundation, through the Apostles James and John, although the Apostles themselves never actually visited there.

    The Irish people were the westernmost extension of the vast Celtic civilization — whose people called themselves the Gauls — which stretched from southern Russia through Europe north of the Mediterranean belt and eventually into the British Isles.

    Greek trading colonies and cities were also founded among them in antiquity, and many of the the Celtic peoples understood koine Greek.

    The vastness of the Celtic/Gallic civilization is evident in the names used to designate countries within its entire territory: the land of Galatia in Asia Minor, Gaul (France), Galicia (northwest Spain), and the land of the Gaels.

    Apostle Paul wrote an epistle to the Galatians of Asia Minor.

    Part of the Celtic civilization included the Brythonic Celts who resided in the territories of Brittany in France and the peoples of Roman Britannia before the Anglo-Saxons came.

    The Celtic peoples kept in very close contact with their kinfolk across the Eurasian continent.

    When Christianity was first being spread by the Apostles, those Celts who heard their preaching and accepted it (seeing it as the completion of the best parts of their ancient traditions and beliefs) immediately told their relatives, traveling by sea and land along routes their ancestors had followed since before 1000 BC.

    The two Apostles whose teachings had the greatest influence upon the Celtic peoples were the brothers James and John, the sons of Zebedee. After Pentecost, James first preached the Gospel to the dispersed Israelites in Sardinia.

    From there he went to the Spanish mainland and traveled throughout the northern part of Spain along the river Ebro, where his message was eagerly heard by the Celtic/Iberian peoples, especially those in Galicia. This area continued to be a portal to Ireland for many centuries, especially the transmission of the Good News.

    John preached throughout the whole territory of Asia Minor (Turkey), and the many peoples there accepted Christianity, including the Celts known as Galatians in Cappadocia. These people also communicated with their relatives throughout the Greco/Roman world of the time, especially with those in Gaul.

    By the middle of the second century the Celtic Christians in Gaul asked that a bishop be sent to them, and the Church sent St. Irenaeos, who was born in Proconsular Asia, who settled at Lyons on the Rhone river.

    Among the many works St. Irenaeos accomplished, the most important were his mastery of the language of the local Celtic people and his preaching to them of the Christianity he had received from St. Polycarp of Smyrna in Asia Minor, the disciple of St. John the Theologian.

    He was buried under the Church of Saint John in Lyons, which was later renamed St Irenaeus in his honour.

    Peace in Christ

    IC XC
    NI KA

  124. marshall[Maher-shalal-hash-baz] October 28, 2010 @ 7:40 pm

    Donna Let me clarify myself.

    Revelation 22:13 “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.”

    The end on the last book of the entire Bible is referring to the entire Bible, not just the Book of Revelation.

    Because Jesus Christ wrote the entire Bible, if any one adds or subtracts from it, the result will be damnation.

    St Paul also speaks of the damnation of adding to, or changing the Bible in Galatians 1:8,9:

    “But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so now I say again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you then that ye have recieved, let him be accursed.”

    Because Jesus Christ doubles this in two consecutive verses, you BETTER believe it is very important!!!

  125. Dafydd October 29, 2010 @ 3:07 am

    Dear KathJuliane,

    Thank you for your kind and rational response. I believe that you are correct in your interpretation of the origin of the name Dafydd, and have researched it, which I have not.

    You are a Christian both intellectually and spiritually (a true Christian!), unlike some who are Christian in name, or religiously/ ideologically Christian.

    Regarding Adolf Hitler (I’ve spelt it correctly for the nit pickers!), and that period of history; invariably, it has been put beyond the pale by the incessant brain washing of the post war period.

    When we bring it down to the level of him being a national statesman, then we can talk about this period of history in a rational and objective manner.

    Most people are not aware that there are only two unabridged and authentic translations of Mein Kamph. These are the James Murphy translation and the Mannheim translation.

    The rest are not worth the paper they are written on as they are so inaccurate and distorted as to what was actually written in Mein Kamph.

    The Jewish world almanac of 1938 put the Jewish world population at 15 to 18 million. The Jewish world almanac of 1948 put the Jewish world population at 15 to 18 million. The World council of Churches and the International Red Cross put the Jewish world population at 15 to 18 million in 1948.

    There were about three million Jews in German occupied territory at this time. These were generally accepted figures at this time. And there have been more than 3 million survivors come forward since the end of the war.

    The actual deaths recorded in the camps is 240,000. And the International Red Cross had a representative in each of these so called extermination camps, but did not testify to seeing any program of extermination; but begged the allies to stop bombing the supply routes as people were dying of Typhus, Malnutrition and humger.

    So one could say that the allies were indirectly responsible for these deaths due the their continuos bombing of these supply routes.

    I could go on and on, but if anyone wants to see irrefutable evidence the big lie, then Google “Did Six Million Really Die”? for starters, which is full of irrefutable facts and figures.

  126. Donna chestergimli October 29, 2010 @ 6:36 am

    But Marshall,

    You still haven’t told me exactly what I added or subtracted to the gospel.

    Be specific.

  127. Stav October 29, 2010 @ 10:47 am

    Dear Jett,

    You say amongst other things:

    “The Bible has ALL the answers and you don’t need a church, priest, bishop or any man to receive the GIFT from Jesus. Read the beatitudes (sermon on the mount) of JESUS.”

    The Holy Bible, is the result of the Church and it’s Holy Tradition. Not the other way around, i.e. the Church a result of the Bible.

    It was the (Orthodox) Church, with it’s Bishops, Priests, Monks and theologians who decided after very long periods of contemplation and prayer and partaking in the Church and it’s Holy traditions that generated what we today call the Bible.

    In fact, the (Orthodox) Church, has produced many more things, aside from the Bible.

    It is therefore, wise for one to know Church History and how things came about.

    To say that the only thing we need is the Bible and at the same time refute the need for Bishops, Priests etc. is like saying “there is steam without water.”

    Thus, it is Holy Tradition is what we need, most of all. Holy Tradition is the sum total of the spiritual, practical and theological/theoretical experience of us, Christians in Christ our Lord.

    This was the root and cause of the written word we call today the Bible. In fact, if the Bible was to disappear from the face of the Earth, it is this, Holy Tradition that is capable of reinstating a written word of God.

    Outlandish, I know, but it is about time, protestants understood the Truth, Who is Jesus Christ our Lord, in practical and historical terms, rather than a “solo biblia” mentality, which makes no sense.


  128. charlie October 29, 2010 @ 2:12 pm

    “Holy Tradition is the sum total of the spiritual, practical and theological/theoretical experience of us, Christians in Christ our Lord.”

    If you believe that you would have to believe in the Marian apparitions to the Catholic church over the past 2000 years.

    We need deeds not empty words.

    Also who do you think ran the USSR apart from the Jews? Aetheists perhaps or were they really Orthodox Christians, as all of Russia was Orthodox Christian prior to Communism.

    Real Christians suffered at the hands of these apostate Orthodox betrayals.

    Lest you think I am descending to your level of attack on Christians of other faiths than your owned purported one, something real Christians cannot do, the Catholic church fell away itself in the last century but not entirely.

    Whether it remains to weather the storm of Benedict’s death remains to be seen. If it does, which as an institution I doubt it, it will be in the hearts of individuals gathered by the Virgin Mary over these recent decades around her shrines, physically and spiritually. They will never lose the faith.

  129. marshall[Maher-shalal-hash-baz] October 29, 2010 @ 4:19 pm


    You need to tell me the specific verse or verses that OPENLY proclaim the “immaculate conception” of Mary.

    Jesus says in John 18:20 “Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing.”

    If the verses are not clearly describing the “immaculate conception” of Mary, then they are being added to the Bible.

  130. Stav October 29, 2010 @ 4:39 pm

    Dear charlie,

    You say:

    “If you believe that you would have to believe in the Marian apparitions to the Catholic church over the past 2000 years.”

    No, I DO NOT!!!

    Orthodox Tradition, Ascetic Practice and the Apostles words, tell us to TEST the spirits, in a very specific way. Holy Tradition, tells us, NOT to accept spirits by face value or by a human authority.

    Thus, if one sticks to these premises, they will have no choice but to ignore these apparitions, or based on some experiences and in the context of Graceful discernment, even consider them Demonic until further information is presented.

    As for the rest of your comments, they do not stand, because my words are not empty, they merely fall unto some barren grounds, or if you will, people who do not want to listen to Truth and accept it…


  131. Stav October 29, 2010 @ 4:40 pm

    And dear charlie,

    The Catholic religious community has not existed for 2000 years. It has existed around 1000 years, since they decided to become heretics and separate themselves from the rest of the body of the Church.


  132. charlie October 30, 2010 @ 12:02 am

    In reply to Fr Joseph.

    I don’t object to your expressing yourself – as long as you do me the same honour..

    Quid pro quo as they say..

    God bless.

  133. Donna chestergimli October 30, 2010 @ 9:59 am


    I believe that the Fathers of the Church came upon this by reading the whole Bible and taking into account the teachings of the early church. Just as a child does not know everything at first, neither did the Church have everything formulated at first.

    The child has his parents and the Church has the Holy Ghost. They have also used reason. Jesus was the Son of God. God detested sin. Therefore, God would want his mother to be without sin.

    So, I guess that what this means is that Mary could never be tempted to sin. Hence, the Immacuate Conception. I believe that many Church Fathers say that the original sin was disobedience to God in eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

    I believe the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil to be accepting the idea of a medium of exchange. Because, as we see today, it destroys entire civilations.

    The devil is using it to destroy the current civilization that we now have. I could go on and on and on about that but my fingers would tire out.

  134. KathJuliane October 30, 2010 @ 5:31 pm

    Dear Donna,

    For your consideration.

    The Revelation of Jesus Christ to the seven Asian churches, collectively symbolizing the Church, in their tribulation, prophetically envisions the final victory of God over evil, including the last judgment and the establishment of His eternal Kingdom.

    It was written by St. John the Theologian, one of the Lord’s personal disciples who himself suffered under the early Jewish and Roman persecutions, for the churches then suffering persecution in Asia Minor. It offers hope and encouraged steadfastness to groups undergoing persecution or severe crisis.

    From the very beginning the Orthodox Church has always taught this in terms of ecclesiology.

    Chapter 12 begins an extensive parenthesis in the center of Apocalypse dealing with the conflict between the Church and the powers of evil (12:1–14:20).

    There is internal consistency and harmony to Scripture, just as the Church-New Israel inherited from the Sacred Scripture and Tradition of Israel, and through the fullest Revelation of Christ in His Incarnation.

    Because of this, in terms of harmony of Scripture and interpretation, the basic rule of thumb is “Scripture must interpret Scripture.”

    Therefore every passage must be read within its proper context within each entire chapter, or relevant subchapters, and the Old Testament interpreted in the light of Christ in the New Testament.

    Memorization was highly valued in all ancient cultures which depended much on oral teaching as writing was tedious and time consuming, and texts were written entirely by hand.

    Nevertheless, virtually all the people in Christ’s time were able to read, owned copies of the Written Torah, as Queen Alexandria of Jerusalem had ruled compulsory education for everyone within the Hasmonean kingdom of Judaea, with a minimum of two years studying scripture.

    Master copies of Scripture in Hebrew and Greek were on public display in the Temple courtyard which anyone could have access to read, and refer to in disputations. Many people were able to own copies of their own, especially in Greek. And the Scriptures were expounded at every synagogue meeting according to a liturgical schedule.

    Because the people of Israel often fully memorized Scripture, brief quotes in discourse from the OT implies also the entire passage, set of verses, subchapter and chapter as well, the relevance would be instantly recalled to the mind.

    The New Testament follows this same pattern, in that the Gospels and the Epistles were originally written to be read in public in the church assemblies and worship.

    Ancient poets, prophets and writers everywhere, including the prophets of Scripture, often figuratively used female personifications as symbols for communities (daughter of Zion, for example).

    Apostle Paul indirectly uses a female personification for creation: “For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now.” Rom 8:26.

    In Galatians 4:21-31, by saying that Abraham’s two sons and related events are symbolic, Paul is not implying that they are not historical. Rather he asserts that OT history is announcing something far greater than itself.

    Hagar and Mt. Sinai symbolze earthly Jerusalem and the Jews under the law. Sarah, the freewoman, symbolizes the heavenly Jerusalem, that is the Church.

    Allegorically, as Paul emphasises, the desolate woman (the barren one, Sarah) are those in the Church, the Galileans, Jews, Samaritans, and others of Abraham’s offspring that came to Christ, and especially the Gentiles who had dim knowledge of God and came to Christ in baptism and the Holy Spirit.

    In Paul’s allegory, she who has a husband (the fertile one, Hagar) is earthly Israel.

    Israel had the Covenant of Abraham, the revelation of YHWH and the Law of God as given to Moses, AND the Prophets speaking in the Holy Spirit, AND Jesus the Promised Messiah of Israel in the fullness of God’s Revelation — the symbol of Hagar as “cast out” represents the faithless and rebellious Jews who rejected Christ for the Law, which does not save.

    Furthermore, Sarah is a type of Mary, the Theotokos, for Sarah’s son by Abraham was miraculously born through promise from an aged and barren womb.

    Even pagan Rome had developed as part of the state cultus, veneration of the City of Roma, personified as a woman (goddess); also the ‘mother of harlots – Babylon’ is described as a woman. All of these are examples of female personifications of some kind of community.

    The great sign heaven of chapter 12, “a woman,” as a community symbol, is first and foremost true Israel, the Church, a continuation of the OT “7,000 faithful of Israel” throughout Israel’s history, sometimes called ‘daughter of Zion’ and, in Isaiah 47:1, in prophetic chastisement, God calls Israel “virgin daughter of Babylon: daughter of the Chaldeans.”

    The Virgin Mary (fulfillment of Is. 7:14) is the perfect symbol of Israel and the Church-New Israel, the people of which she is the foremost member and personally excelled all in Faith, and the great example for all Christians for her faith in God, and humble, intelligent submission to His will out of her own freewill.

    In God’s providential care, the Virgin Mary (like other temple virgins as well) was guarded by the Holy Spirit from a tender age, and early schooled in Hebrew Scripture and Tradition by the righteous of the high priesthood, like the inspired Zacharias, and the righteous Levites, and the righteous women and widows that dedicated themselves to the Temple.

    She was steeped in all of the Law and the sacred traditions of Israel as a Nazarite temple virgin dedicated to the Temple at the age of 3 by her parents, the Righteous Joachim and Anna.

    The Virgin Mary, in her great embrace of her own destiny in her great love for Israel, and who declares “my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior,” knew that the destiny of Israel was to bring forth the Messiah and Savior as the heir to the throne of David by way of a virgin.

    But she, by the tone of her great hymn of praise of the Almighty One, in her humility and poverty despite being of the noble Davidic house which had long been marginalized, did not expect the honor of being the mother of the Messiah to be accorded to herself. “For He has regarded the lowly state of His maidservant.”

    As a daughter of true Israel in conforming her will to that of God, on behalf of the people of Israel who were destined to bring forth the Divine Messiah, Mary at the Annuciation by her own deliberations, freewill and consent, conceived and brought forth the promised Emmanuel — “God with us” — Incarnated in the Person of Jesus as “light to bring revelation to the Nations, and the glory of Thy people Israel,” (Is. 9:1-7; Luke 2:25-35); the same Jesus Christ Who was dedicated in the Temple of Jerusalem (Luke 2:22-24).

  135. KathJuliane October 30, 2010 @ 5:32 pm

    The Woman of Rev 12 is the antithesis of the Harlot of ch. 17, for she is a radiant bride (Song 6:4,10; Jer 2:2), adorned with splendor (Gen 37:9), referring to the prophetic dream of young Joseph, a biblical type for Christ, “that the sun, and the moon, and the eleven stars did me reverence.”

    The Harlot, usually associated with Rome/Babylon as symbolizing the pagan idolatrous world in various interpretations, is most concisely earthly Jerusalem, also built on seven hills, and epitomized by the Temple.

    Since the Bible is the spiritual history of the people of Israel and the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the land of the Promised Messiah, and the Messiah the central point of both the Old and New Testaments, Rome is peripheral, one of “the nations,” the empire is present as “the inhabited world,” or as what Aristotle would call a “political animal,” or “beast.”

    Rome is not ever mentioned by name in the OT, but Jerusalem in relation to Babylon by name always is, as Babylon symbolizes the idolatrous, materialistic world, pursuing great wealth and gain, and also a place of exile, and a fallen world. Babylon as a type could be symbol also for Rome.

    If Christ is the centerpiece of all Scripture and history of Israel, then so was the land of Israel, the tribe of Judah and Jerusalem, and the history of faithfulness and unfaithfulness of the children of Israel, including Jerusalem’s ultimate rejection and judicial murder of her Lord and God as Christ Incarnate.

    Earthly Jerusalem, also built on seven hills, epitomized by the Temple, is dressed in material gaudiness and abominable luxury, contrasted again by the pure white linen in which the Bride of the Lamb is arrayed (19:18).

    Furthermore, the Harlot’s “merchandise of gold and silver, precious stones and pearls, fine linen and purple, silk and scarlet, every kind of citron wood, every kind of object of ivory, every kind of object of most precious wood, bronze, iron, and marble; AND cinnamon and incense, fragrant oil and frankincense, wine and oil, fine flour and wheat, cattle and sheep,” are all things found in the OT for liturgical worship.

    These items were used to build and glorify the Temple (46 years in the building before it was destroyed!!!), composed its vast treasuries of goods, and was considered one of the Seven Wonders of the World.

    The items listed were used for the lavish vestments of the High Priesthood, the common priesthood and Levites, to maintain the cycles of sacrificial liturgies, make the special incense for the Incense Sacrifice, and the rest describes the megawealth of Jerusalem and its society itself.

    Jerusalem was the central hub of trade routes for three continents, and with Herod’s dynastic marriages into Nabatean and Arab royal houses, as well as important houses in Samaria and Judea, Jerusalem held virtually monopolistic hegemony over the entire known world’s enormously lucrative incense and spice trade, and the land and sea routes.

    Jerusalem controlled the ports of Alexandria (also very important for Egyptian grain shipping throughout the empire), Gaza, Joppa and Caesaria Maritima, and Elath on the Red Sea, and two major incense roads and their arteries, one east and west from Gaza into Arabia, and the other north and south on the trans-Jordan side.

    Consider all of the pagan temples in the ancient known world on three continents that used incense, and precious woods, spices and other cargoes and you’ll see what an enormous devastation the destruction of Jerusalem, as the Harlot that haughtily said “I am no widow,” meant.

    In terms of Scriptural typology and harmony, if the Harlot clearly represents a community, then so must the Woman clothed with the Sun, and not a particular person, unless otherwise identified as a person and not a personification.

    In terms of Marionology, it was only in the 16th century that the modern Catholic interpretation of “the woman clothed with the sun” first came to particularly mean Mary in a doctrinal way, contrary to 20 centuries of Scripture, Tradition, Patristic thought, Theology.

    The dogma of the Immaculate Conception was only thought of starting about the 9th century in the West, debated and fought over for over five centuries among western theologians, some partisans even swearing blood oaths to defend the doctrine.

    Christians in the East and West had not heard of this before the ninth century, when for the first time the Abbot of Corvey, Paschasius Radbertus, expressed the opinion that the Holy Virgin was conceived without original sin.

    The Orthodox Church has never adopted a separate branch of Marion study and special orders, apostolates and devotions of the Virgin Mary apart from her place in the Paschal Mystery, Christology and ongoing Salvation history of the Church.

    In the OT, the sun represents Jacob/Israel, the moon Rachel, and the eleven stars are Joseph’s brothers, the fathers of tribes of Israel, the people of God. The twelfth star, Joseph, is implied in the OT.

    However, in Gen 37:3, 4 Jacob/Israel’s love was partial, for he loved Joseph more than his other sons. Such love divided his family and opened the door to hatred. Thus Jacob was not yet perfected in love, for perfect love is impartial. But Christ loves all equally, and died for all.

    In 37:8 Joseph’s brothers were blinded by their hatred for him, and therefore could not understand the things of God as Jacob and Rachel did.

    In parallel, the haughty Pharisee Jews of Christ’s own prophetic tribe of Judah, trusting in their own traditions which had distorted the Law of God as given to Moses, and the Prophets, were blinded by their hatred of Christ, and therefore could not understand the things of God.

    Joseph is a type of Jesus Christ.

    In 37:26-28 Joseph’s brothers were motivated by the love of money and possessions, for they did not know the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

    Joseph’s brothers cast him into a pit (a type for the grave), then lifted him out (a type for the resurrection) and sold him as a slave into Egypt (a type for the bondage of death) However, Joseph ultimately became lord of all Egypt (a type for Christ conquering death.)

    Similarly, Jesus was betrayed for thirty pieces of silver by Judas, the Temple Priesthood, and condemned by the Great Sanhedrin, was killed in an act of judicial murder, and buried in his grave. But He rose again, and became the Lord of all (Acts 2:36, 10:36).

    In Apocalypse the symbolism of “on her head the garland of 12 stars” binds both the twelve tribes of Israel as well as the Twelve Apostles of the Ecclesia of true Israel, which our Lord Jesus began forming from the beginning of His earthly ministry.

    He founded the Ecclesia in Matthew 16:18. This point marks the establishing of the true Israel, the Ecclesia of the remnant faithful, within the larger body of earthly Israel. It is the beginning point of division of the “wheat from the tares,” in the Land and the Diaspora as the Gospel is preached, and the preparation for separating Faith from the Temple of Jerusalem.

    The “garland of 12 stars,” represents the perfection or fullness of true Israel, the Ecclesia of the remnant faithful as the people of God, in glorious unity with her risen Lord, contrasted with the imperfect Israel of the flesh of the vision in Genesis where only 11 stars are seen in Joseph’s dream.

    Israel had a unique sacred relationship to the moon symbolically among all the ancient peoples without treating it as a celestial goddess. “The moon under her feet” represents the Passover Moon when death passed over the first-born of the people of Israel, who then came out of Egypt.

    It was also on the Passover Moon on which our Lord Jesus Christ was crucified, and buried, to be resurrected on the third day after, which is the First Day of the week, and also the Eighth Day after the Sabbath, symbolizing the Kingdom of God.

    As such, He became our Pascha or Passover as the Lamb, in that He, as the Incarnate Only-Begotten Son of God, and the prophesied Son of Promise from Abraham’s own loins, by His Crucifixion and Resurrection passed over the death which had passed over the first born sons of Israel in Egypt.

    “Christ is risen from the dead, trampling down death by death, and on those in the tombs bestowing life.”

  136. KathJuliane October 30, 2010 @ 5:50 pm

    With the moon under her feet, the Woman as the Ecclesia with Christ as her head, clothed with the sun (glorious Sun of Righteousness), symbolizes her preeminence among all that is created as the New Creation in Christ, the people of God now born from above through the baptism of water and the Holy Spirit.

    The Woman is the regenerated New Israel through “baptism of water and the Holy Spirit,” the Bride of the Lamb, which joins her Lord and King in His crucifixion, burial and resurrection, of which the Virgin Mary is the foremost member and the First of the Redeemed after her own falling asleep (Koimisis or Dormition).

    By a far older tradition in the East passed on from the earliest times and as witnessed by the Apostles, the Blessed Virgin reposed in the presence of the Apostles, who buried her in Jerusalem.

    Since the time of the early Church, Orthodox Christians have honored Mary, the Theotokos, with special solemnity on August 15, which commenced locally with the Apostolic Church of Jerusalem and spread to many other churches of the Church in the Orient, and most prominently at Constantinople.

    From the sixth century on in the East, that celebration was explicitly associated with her death, as the culmination of a human life uniquely “full of grace,” uniquely involved in the Mystery of our salvation and transformation in Christ. The liturgical devotion then gradually spread throughout the West starting the 7th or 8th centuries.

    From the earliest times, Greek and early Latin theologians and preachers interpretted Mary’s Koimisis in the light of Christology and the whole Paschal Mystery.

    In Greek, Dormition is Koimisis — falling asleep in death — from which the word cemetery derives.

    According to Orthodox Tradition, Mary died like all humanity, “falling asleep,” so to speak, as the name of the feast indicates.

    Although she had no personal sin, she died as all people die, not “voluntarily” as did her Son, but by the necessity of her mortal human nature which is indivisibly bound up with the death and corruption of this world because of Adam’s original, or first sin.

    In Romans 8:3,4, The law of Moses failed because of the flesh, the weakness of human nature, which is NOT inherently sinful but is taken captive by sin (7:14-25). The law and human nature are fulfilled by the Incarnation. For the Son took on flesh, human nature as beset with troubles.

    Aided by the power of the Spirit Christ did not sin, for He was “only in the likeness of our sinfulness,” being also eternally God in uncreated essence undivided, unlike created beings, He could not be separated from God the Father.

    Moreover, it was by the flesh and in the Spirit that Christ condemned sin, destroying its power for believers. In Him the flesh, human nature, by the divine power of the Spirit, is the victor, crowned with honor.

    To return to Apocalypse, the Woman’s birth-giving (a male Child, vv.2,5) is that of the Messiah, and she bears other offspring as well.

    However, the woman portrayed is in reference to true Israel, the Church of the OT and the NT, (in the LXX “ecclesia” is used over 100 times for “assembly” or ecclesia of Israel) and not specifically the Virgin Mary, although she is the foremost daughter of Israel, and in Christ, the foremost member of the Church as the Theotokos, the God-bearer and the Mother of our Lord as the Head of the Church-New Israel.

    Carefully note “Then being with child, she cried out in labor and in pain to give birth.” Both the Orthodox and the Catholic ancient common tradition states that the Virgin Mary gave completely painless birth to Jesus Christ, meaning she did not go through the pains of ordinary labor at all.

    Moreover, although the Virgin Mary is the foremost symbolic type for the Church and our great example for Faith, the very fact that she bore no other children besides Jesus, precludes these passages as pertaining particularly to her, so the description is of the Church.

    Often in Scripture tribulations afflicting Israel and the Church-True Israel are figuratively described as labor pains. In 12:5 True Israel brings forth Christ, who after completion of His saving work, ascends to heaven (Ps. 2:7-9).

    In 12:6 the flight of the woman likely refers to the great flight of the church of Judaea and Jerusalem (embodying true Israel) to Pella before the outbreak of the Jewish war against the Romans.

    It also illustrates there is no permanent safe place for the Church in this age.

    In 12:17, after making war on the Mother Church of the circumcised believers in Judaea and Galilee, and they fled to Pella and elsewhere, “the dragon (Satan) was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”

    Obviously, this is a community personification again of the Church-New Israel (which in no fashion excludes the Virgin Mary who did suffer in great humility, verbal abuse, gossip, vitriolic slanders, and even public shaming for her Son having been crucified like a criminal as part of the NT Church).

    “Her (the Church’s) other children” are the Samaritan Israelites, other Semitic tribes that came to Faith, and uncircumcised Gentiles, who have inherited from her both the commandments of God and faith in Christ.

  137. KathJuliane October 30, 2010 @ 5:51 pm

    12:7-12 is a passage that begins an interlude describing Satan’s role in stimulating persecution of the Church. The war with Michael and the good angels is usually interpreted to picture an event before the creation of the world.

    Here, Satan, who first attempted to devour Christ as soon as He was born by the actions of Herod and the slaughter of the Innocents, has been accusing the brethren, the Christians, and his downfall presages the consummation of the Kingdom.

    Satan is overcome by Christ’s self-sacrifice and that of the martyrs (v11) — those who did not love their lives to the death. The ‘short time’ (v12) Satan has is the period of tribulation just prior to the end.

    On the one hand, this is historical, as it describes the persecutions and tribulations of the Church in Judaea and elsewhere by first the Jews for close to forty years, and then much later by the pagan Romans. And on the other hand in allegorical, eschatological and spiritual terms, Satan’s war against Christ and His Church will continue until the end of time.

    12:13-16 Satan hates Christ and His mother. The Virgin Mary was saved by the inspiration of the angel who told Joseph to run to Egypt. Likewise, Satan hates Christ and the Church (John 15:21) and attacks one through the other, since they are identified with each other.

    One of his first activities is to persecute true Israel, the little Church of Judea. The wings of a great eagle (v14) refers to the orginal Exodus (Ex. 19:4; Deut. 32:11; Is: 40:31) as the flood (vv 15,16) may also be the threat of drowning in the Red Sea.

    However, after the martyrdom of the two witnesses at the temple of Jerusalem, the ancient call of “Come out of her My people” rings through the Church to flee “the street of the great city which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.”

    This is clearly Jerusalem (who kills the prophets, Luke 13:34). Like Sodom and Egypt, Jerusalem becomes self-sufficient and rebels against God. Like Sodom and Egypt, the faithful are to flee Jerusalem, as Lot and his family escaped divine judgment on Sodom and Gommorah, and as Israel excaped the divine wrath against Egypt and her gods.

    The Divine judgment coming on Jerusalem was decreed in God’s grand indictment against Israel and probationary period in Daniel 9:20-29 before the city was slated to be destroyed.

    Only wholehearted repentence towards God, and acceptance of Jesus Christ by the people on the whole, and not just a believing remnant, corporately receiving the Covenant and Law of Christ as the new law could save Jerusalem and preserve Israel in her land.

    The Jews rejected Christ, the fulfillment of God’s Covenant with Abraham, and therefore also rejected God, and so they became no longer the “chosen people” as they are now Godless.

    If earthly Israel is not the chosen people anymore by their own decision, they have no entitlements to the land, because despite what they yap, continued possession of the land was conditional on receiving Jesus the Messiah at the time of His Incarnation, the Promised Seed of Abraham.

    Seed = singular, as Paul spells out in Galatians 3:16, but he is speaking to Gentiles. Any Jews would already be familiar with the covenant prophesies, and there is not one contemporary disputation by any of the rabbis of the Talmud or Paul’s Jewish contemporaries that his interpretation was erroneous or novel.

    We have to keep in mind that he was using the Scripture, in Greek and Hebrew as necessary, which was still on public display for reference in the courtyard of the Temple itself in case of any disputations before the destruction of the Temple.

    “Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say “And to seeds,” as of many, but as of one, “And to your Seed,” who is Christ.

    “And this I say, that the law, which was four hundred and thirty years later, cannot annul the covenant that was confirmed before by God in Christ, that it (the law) should make the promise of no effect. For if the inheritance is of the law, it is no longer of promise, but God gave it to Abraham by promise.”

    The Jews were blinded by the multitude of details of the law, most of which falls under the “traditions of men,” or rabbinicism and the Talmud. So much so, they really didn’t even “know Moses.”

    They failed to see that their sonship was founded on God’s promises (the covenant) MADE TO ABRAHAM. Since a COVENANT THAT WAS CONFIRMED cannot be added to, changed, or annulled, the law, which comes later, cannot alter the covenant’s promise.

    The Jews thought they were sons (seeds) of Abraham through physical genealogy. They overlooked the fact that Seed (Son) is singular, and ultimately designates Christ in the fullness of God’s Revelation.

    In the LXX, there are a number of times in the Abrahamic convenant prophecies, and again in the Davidic messianic throne covenant when the word “seed” in Greek is found distinctly and specifically in the dative singular – spermati – The Seed (The Son), and not just as ‘sperma’ (offspring, singular or plural) or spermatos (the designated offspring of a certain ancestor or heirs of a particular house).

    So Paul was not pulling anything new out of his hat as interpretation.

    Also see Romans 9:26-29 in the context concerning the unbelief of the Jews, despite God’s blessings, God is faithful to Israel, and God is just in His choice of adopting the believing Gentiles as His chosen sons in Christ in the face of earthly Israel’s rejection and apostasy.

    Paul himself uses imagery of faithless and carnal Sodom from Isaiah for unbelieving Israel after the flesh — the Jews who rejected Jesus as the Messiah.

    In a very narrow window of time, the Church of Judea safely completes its exodus to Pella and other regions, and is preserved during this first apocalyptic period inside the land of Israel as events mount toward God’s final destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple – forever. God does not rebuild what He has destroyed, like Sodom and Gomorrah.

    Zealot, robber, and messianic partisan bands were running lawlessly amok throughout the land. The Jewish war against Rome was declared with the cessation of the daily sacrifice on behalf of the emperor as a sign of loyalty, and Galilee and Judea rose up in rebellion. The Roman war machine marched in and pounded the countryside for three years before approaching Jerusalem.

    Inside Jerusalem rampaged civil war, famine, mass starvation, corpses lying in the streets and rotting unburied in homes, more corpses thrown over the walls, mass murders and assassinations between the the various Zealot parties fighting inside Jerusalem itself, and who deliberately held the hapless people captive in an internal seige long before the Romans ever arrived.

    By the time Titus arrived, even the hardened Romans were moved to pity by the sheer magnitude of the misery and suffering of the people inside Jerusalem, and early deliberation between Titus and his commanders was given as to whether a rescue operation might be possible.

    The only way was to first attempt to negotiate an honorable surrender or truce with the Jews, which they spit on several times. Titus then challenged the war parties to come out and fight the Romans on open battleground, so as to spare the City, Temple and what was left of the entrapped population.

    That was spit on, too.

    At that point, the only way through was to lay down the seige of Jerusalem. And the rest is history.

    In any case, throughout time, the Church in general will be preserved: the gates of hell cannot prevail against her (Matt. 16:18), even if at times she may dwindle to a little flock.

  138. charlie October 30, 2010 @ 7:49 pm

    How could Jesus who was perfect take his DNA from someone who was not perfect?

    The answer is He couldn’t. It is clear.

    Anything to the contrary is contrary to Scripture and demonic.

    The Orthodox church should stick to what it knows and not try to lecture the rest of the church on what it knows nothing about or hide from the teachings of the rest of the church, when they conflict with their own myopic understanding.

  139. Stav October 31, 2010 @ 2:27 am

    Dear Charlie,

    You say:

    “Anything to the contrary is contrary to Scripture and demonic.”

    Matthew 26:27 (King James Version)

    27 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it;

    Notice the “ye all of it” part? That means EVERYBODY.

    Now, notice what your religious community believes:

    Session XXI – The fifth under the Supreme Pontiff, Pius IV, celebrated on the sixteenth day of July, 1562

    Canon 1. If anyone says that each and all the faithful of Christ are by a precept of God or by the necessity of salvation bound to receive both species of the most holy sacrament of the Eucharist, let him be anathema.

    Thus, in complete contradiction of Jesus Christ’s own words, Catholics do not give His Most Holy Blood to the people.

    Is that not by your own definition demonic? I’m sticking to what I know and is obvious. Are you?

    That was my last of my posts for awhile on this. Anyone who has eyes and ears, can see the truth.


  140. hvt October 31, 2010 @ 6:51 am


    Thank you for your treatise.

    I found it to be very enlightening, and it has helped to bring clarity to a number of questions I have had.

  141. charlie October 31, 2010 @ 1:10 pm

    Stav. thanks for that.. sticking to what you know…. for you don’t know about the Immaculate Conception. At least you are honest.

    However answering a question by changing the topic proving you have no answer at all brings into question the reason for your criticism of the Immaculate conception in the first place.

    We Catholics live by faith, for if we “know” this and that to be the case there would not be any need for faith.

    Faith has no need of proof and if the Catholic FAITH required “proof” there would be no FAITH.

    And we know our faith is well founded by the fruits thereof…… which include love, fortitude, piety, patience, longsuffering, understanding & knowledge.

    So yes. I am sticking to what I know.

    With regards to communion.

    Christ also said “do this in memory of me.”

    He was talking to the apostles who thus became priests with these words.

    Can the lay faithful in the orthodox church “do this in memory of Me?”


    And do Catholic priests who are the successors of the Apostles take communion under both forms….yes.

    Now with regard to Fatima.

    So urgent was the message of Heaven to the world that no faith was even required.

    Our Lady stated – I will send a miracle so that ALL will believe.

    This miracle was put up on video on you tube then quickly taken down. Actual raw untouched footage.

    I am therefore sure it was shown widely at the time and hence why fatima became so widespread so quickly.

    Its a pity it is not available, for if it were as Our Lady said, “All would believe.”

  142. Fr. Joseph October 31, 2010 @ 3:12 pm

    Dear charlie,

    Yes! It IS a big relief.

    I now pray that the Lord grant all of you readers and contributors to such Internet websites such as Br. Nathanael’s RZN, Mark Glenn’s Ugly Truth and Jeff Rense’s website those Gifts and Graces of God the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of TRUTH, to expose, dismantle, destroy, liquidate, render-into-nothing every manner of MALICIOUS EVIL LIE and DECEPTION being foisted upon our Human Race.

    I can’t LIE to you about any of the following:

    Yes, 17 years ago, I was brought into the Divine Presence of God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. I was charged with relaying a Divine Message to the Government and People of these United States of America that it was coming under God’s Divine Judgement and that it would undergo God’s Divine Punishments. That I did.

    Yes, it was during a Marian Movement of Priests Rosary Cenacle where the Lord gave me His Commission to be ‘Informer’ and ‘Communications Expert’ in His Church Militant’s Holy Army working to dispel His People’s IGNORNACE of so many things. That I did.

    Yes, the Most Holy Mother of God, the Blessed Virgin Mary, granted me a personal vision of herself while permitting me to hear Her voice, in undescribable anguish, sorrow, grief, suffering, speaking these words of Hers to me, ‘Defend the Church!’ That I did to the best of my own feeble mortal man abilities.

    Yes, I had to appeal to God Himself to rid me from being assaulted by several elemental demonics one time many years ago. God delivered me from them all.

    Yes, I had to appeal to the Mother of God, the Blessed Virgin Mary, via the prayers of the Rosary, to come to my aid and assistance in “spirit-to-spirit” COMBAT with an elemental demonic spirits of terror.

    The Mother of God came quickly to my help and assistance by throwing Her Glorious Mantle over me thus shielding me from that incredibly overpowering demonic spirit.

    Yes, I had to appeal to St. Michael the Archangel to free me and my spirit from a obsessed familial demonic spirit. St. Michael and his Angelic Warrior Companions came to my assitance and “pulled off” that parastic and obsessive demonic from me.

    Yes, I found myself surprizingly “filled” with what the mystical theologicians would call God’s ‘Divine Substance’ – and HE did so on account of my finding myself confronted with Satan (or one of his very high elemental spiritual demonic lieutenants).

    And Satan or his lieutenant was attempt to DIG ITS DEMONIC CLAWS/TALONS into my very own human skull in order to tear it open SO THAT the demonic hellish belching fires from its own mouth would ROAST/DESTROY my human brain. God’s Own ‘Divine Substance’ made me IMPERVIOUS to that Satanic attack on my very own physical body and God-given spiritual integrity.

    Yes, I had the Blessed Trinity grant me a ‘Divine Visitation’ once in my very own bedroom while going to sleep one night. God the Father Himself laid His Right Hand on the very top of my own head and so GENTLY and LOVINGLY STROKED the hair on the top of my head.

    And as God the Father DEPARTED, there came rushing by as well as rushing THROUGH my very own being a torrent of loving and worshipping SPIRITS seeking nothing but to follow, remain with and minister to God Himself.

    And yes, one time, I was SO LOW and SO DEMORALIZED as a ‘Priest’ and so concerned about the loss of SO MANY SOULS all around me to damnation to Hell and its eternal torments, that I was GIVEN a prayer to utter out in my spiritual dismay

    “Lord, DO NOT LET my enemies put me to shame!”

    And shortly thereafter, I was granted a Spiritual Audience before God the Father on His Throne with His Eternal Son, our Lord and Savior on one side of me and His Mother, the Blessed Virgin Mary, on the other side of me – and I “poured my SPIRITUAL GUTS out” before God the Father, going on and on and on THANKING HIM for all of the Divine Blessings, Gifts and Good Things He has bestowed upon me and ALL OF US – and I found myself INSISTING to God the Father that


    As time goes on – and with seeing the INABILITY of people or the REFUSAL of people to see the EVIL going around all about then and all of the EVIL happening to them and all of the EVIL they themselves are assisting in bringing into being – I am FORCED to come to my own personal and FINAL conclusion regarding this Spiritual War.

    We, as a Human Race, are fighting vs. Satan, his legions of elemental demonic spirits and those of our Human Race, incarnate spirits who have literally “sold their souls to Satan” in exchange for the passing ‘things’ of THIS world of ours…

    UNLESS we of the Church Militant SECURE a ‘Second Pentecost’ for our entire Human Race via the Intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary as Our Lady of Fatima who is God’s Own IMMACULATE CONCEPTION by her very own Maternal Spiritual Instruction for the Bishop of Rome along with the Bishops of the Catholic Church to perform a PUBLIC and SOLEMN Collegial Consecration of RUSSIA to Her very own Immaculate Heart –

    I simply DO NOT WANT to even dare think about what God Himself intends TO DO to our contemporary World and to our entire Human Race – and THAT INCLUDES all of us of the Church Militant here on earth!

    Somebody ELSE out there in the ‘Wholewide World’ has not got to try to DO SOMETHING for a change!

    “I’m currently BURNED-OUT and ‘SPENT’!”

    – +Fr. Joseph

  143. charlie October 31, 2010 @ 6:38 pm

    Fr Joseph.


    “Defend my church!”

    This is the responsibility of all Christians, especially in these latter days.

    From what I can gather, millions of people are entering into the presence of the Divine Lord and his Holy Mother and the angels and saints and to defend His church on earth, in these times.

    It is one thing to receive a message and another to implement it.

    A message places a requirement on the recipient to be in conformity with the will of God. To seek the will of the Lord and to follow His Will. We cannot do anything of ourselves, separated from the divine will, period.

    All the great saints, as indeed all holy priests of the Catholic, Orthodox and Protestant churches, without exception know this.

    Because of our weakness and failure oftentimes God has given us a mother to help us. This is his will. It is not up to us to judge the right or wrong of the clear will of God.

    This in no way comes between us and Christ. Just the opposite. She always leads us who through weakness and failure have become separated from Jesus, back to Him.

    This is what our holy, blessed mother does, and she NEVER gives up on us no matter how long it takes, if we allow her to help.

    The rosary, we are told is the prayer of the Gospel, which, in its entirety it is.

    The scapular is a simple act of obedience and faith, required by Our Lord and Our lady for the distribution of abundant graces, out of the pure mercy of their most loving hearts.

    Why? Because, despite our failures in the spiritual life, it is something we can all do. Like bringing flowers to a shrine to show our love.

    No matter which one it is, but the brown scapular is the one that is better known.

    We are never alone although we oftentimes feel as though we are. We are part of a great body of people called Christ’s disciples and He is the Head.

    May God renew in all of us the peace and joy of belonging to His family.

  144. charlie October 31, 2010 @ 8:56 pm

    One Minute Each Night

    ONE MINUTE EACH NIGHT During WWII, there was an advisor to Churchill who organized a group of people who dropped what they were doing every night at a prescribed hour for one minute to collectively pray for the safety of England, its people and peace. This had an amazing effect as bombing stopped.

    There is now a group of people organizing the same thing here in America .

    If you would like to participate: each evening at 9:00 PM Eastern Time (8:00 PM Central, 7:00 PM Mountain, 6:00 PM Pacific), stop whatever you are doing and spend one minute praying for the up-coming election, and for the revival of Christianity in this great country.

    If you know anyone who would like to participate, please pass this along.

    Someone said if people really understood the full extent of the power we have available through prayer, we might be speechless. Our prayers are the most powerful asset we have.

    Thank You. Please pass this on to anyone who you think will want to join us.

  145. Stav November 1, 2010 @ 3:47 am

    Dear Charlie,

    You say:

    “Christ also said “do this in memory of me.”

    He was talking to the apostles who thus became priests with these words.

    Can the lay faithful in the orthodox church “do this in memory of Me?”


    And do Catholic priests who are the successors of the Apostles take communion under both forms….yes.”

    What on earth are you talking about? Communion in it’s entirety is for ALL, as Jesus told us. Are you suggesting something else? I don’t understand. Based on your logic, then no lay people should have any communion at all.


  146. marshall[Maher-shalal-hash-baz] November 1, 2010 @ 6:04 am


    In answer to your question: “How could Jesus who was perfect take his DNA from someone who was not perfect?”

    John 3:6 “That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit”.

    I can continue to write paragraph after paragraph, for my own edification, but it would not ADD one single bit to the ABSOLUTE CLARITY of the LORD’S words.

  147. charlie November 1, 2010 @ 2:11 pm

    “What on earth are you talking about”


    Just quoting Scripture.

    Sorry its foreign to you.

    But it explains your disruptive presence on this board.

    Your arrogant attitude however is something I can’t understand.

    I have seen it typically with masons and Jews, which I suspect you are a closet member.

    Where does it say that Jesus says in the gospel that communion under both species is for all of us. Were “all of us” in the upper room?

    And if we were then all of us are also priests able to ring down Christ from heaven whenever we feel like it.

    You have no original thought process. That is why you are aghast, because your brainwashing cannot compute my words or anything it hasn’t been programmed to think.

    Moderators take note. This has gone on long enough. If you want this negative carping fool to stop disrupting this board you must allow this post to go through.

  148. charlie November 1, 2010 @ 2:26 pm


    You are saying that Christ’s flesh was imperfect, from an imperfect mother.

    If that were the case He could not be the perfect atonement.

    Use a little bit of Christian common sense and thus SHOW you are not some poor lost soul….could anything about God himself ever be imperfect?

    John 3:6 “That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit”.

    What does that have to do with it. …. nothing, except to reinforce my argument. That Jesus flesh must also be perfect and that thus his mother too was perfect.

    But even so we are talking about sin which is of the spirit also and not just the flesh.

    I think you do need to “go on for another couple of paragraphs ….for you own edification”, otherwise you will remain in the hole you just dug for yourself.

    I normally agree with your posts, but not in this case.

  149. marshall[Maher-shalal-hash-baz] November 1, 2010 @ 7:11 pm


    If Mary is the mother of Jesus and Jesus is God, is Mary the mother of God? NO!

    How can a human being be the mother of God, when God existed before the foundation of the world? God created the world and Mary. Mary is the mother of the MAN Jesus whose flesh bled on the cross.

    Jesus as God is born of spirit, not of the flesh. The Bible says in Luke 1:35 “And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.”

    If Mary is “equal” to God which is the only way she can deliver perfect DNA, why does the Bible say that OVERSHADOWED by the power of the Highest? If something can OVERSHADOW you, isn’t it superior to you?

    The truth is that we are all overshadowed by the Bible, and to make up stories that can not be supported by the word of the Bible is like the man our Lord told us, who built his house on the sand.

  150. charlie November 1, 2010 @ 7:51 pm


    I don’t know what religion you are but it is not Christian.

    Mary is the Mother of God. Jesus is God, is He not?

    You had better get baptized, and fast. Then by the grace of God you will perhaps see that which is hidden from you.

  151. Fr. Joseph November 1, 2010 @ 8:09 pm

    Dear charlie,

    First off, my personal thanks to you for coming to the defense of the Church and her Apostolic Faith.

    Secondly, as you yourself have already stated here publicly on Br. Nathanael’s RZN:

    “…there was an advisor to Churchill who organized a group of people who dropped what they were doing every night at a prescribed hour to collectively pray for the safety of England, its PEOPLE and PEACE….

    “Someone said is people really understood the full extent of the power we have available through prayer, we might be speechless.”

    Yes, it’s a historical FACT that those who “dropped everything” and agreed to “simultaneously COOPERATE in unison and with unity” PRAY for the safety of England, for its PEOPLE and for PEACE did not suffer any damage to their very own homes or lose any of their personal possessions during the entire aerial bombardment campaign launched by the German Luftwaffe.

    And with regards to the ‘POWER OF PRAYER’ in loving filial obedience to the Mother of God, the Blessed Virgin Mary – eight German Catholic Jesuit Priests were SPARED from annihilation or destruction or death despite being but 1/3 of a mile away from ‘Ground Zero’ of the ignition point of the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima during World War 2.

    On-line historical video doumentary reference:

    Back when I was an active member of the LEGION OF MARY, that was the spiritual prayer-devotion practice – ALL of the members of the local Legion of Mary group were ‘REQUIRED’ to make a formal-mandatory weekly meeting TOGETHER at a prescribed place and at a prescribed time.

    Everything else going on in our lives was dropped, was set aside, in order to pray the Rosary together and to report on the ‘good works’ we engaged in the preceeding week and to plan what ‘good works’ were we going to do in the upcoming week.

    Now in the most gentle way I know how to say or relay the following…

    IF member of the Church’s Laity and Priests can gathered simultaneously at both a certain place as well as at a certain time and PRAY TOGETHER for a specific desire, goal or result – and history shows their PRAYERS were answered (if but only for they THEMSELVES in the case of those who prayed for England, its people and peace during World War II and in the case of those eight German Catholic Jesuit Priests in Hiroshima)…

    …Then imagine what would be the result for our ENTIRE WORLD and for our ENTIRE HUMAN RACE if but the Bishop of Rome and all of the Bishops of the Catholic Church ‘dropped everything’ and all agreed to ‘meet together simultaneously’ in a certain way and at very specific time,

    …And they ALL simultaneously performed the public and solemn Collegial Consecration of RUSSIA to the Mother of God’s Immaculately Loving Heart per Her very own INSTRUCTIONS to the Church and FOR all of Mankind as Our Lady of Fatima, Portugal, 1917 A.D.!

    The BISHOPS have the FULLNESS of Christ Jesus’ Own PRIESTHOOD, and they ALL wield their Sceptres of Spiritual Authority here in and here on this planet earth created by and sustained-in-being by THE LOGOS Who took on our Human Nature in the Womb of THE WOMAN of Genesis 3:15 and Revelation 12:17!

    And their OBEDIENCE TO the Woman of Genesis 3:15 and Revelation 12:17, in their COLLEGIAL weilding of their Apostolic Successor’s Spiritual AUTHORITY “in the Name of JESUS Christ our Lord” would and WILL result in SATAN’S HEAD CRUSHED for all of us “to hear” as well as “to see” with our very own two ears and our two eyes in this very lifetime of ours!

    And then…ALL OF US would be granted a period of WORLD PEACE wherein each and every last one of us would have the ability to grown in INTIMATE KNOWLEDGE OF and INTIMATE LOVE FOR our All-good, All-loving and All-merciful God, Creator, Sustainer, Savior, Redeemer, Father, Lord, Counselor and Comforter!

    And millions upon millions of human souls would be SAVED for all of Eternity, being made spiritual sons and daughters of God our Eternal Father in Heaven Who sent into our World His Only Eternally Begotton Son – JESUS the Christ – the LOGOS made Incarante – the LOGOS made Flesh – in order TO SAVE US ALL from Satan!

    If I’ve behaved badly or acted badly here “IN PUBLIC” and before the entire whole wide World via the Internet and my past postings-comments – I ask for your forgiveness – it was on account of my mere human ANGER coupled with FRUSTRATION knowing well of the many and great DECEPTIONS being played on and against our Apostolic Church and our own Human Race that are causing so much death, destruction, misery, suffering, disillusionment, despression, despair, gloom, chaos amongst and throughout the Church and all of Mankind.

    ONLY the Great Mother of God, the Blessed Virgin Mary, can now OBTAIN/SECURE for both our Church Militant and all of Mankind the Divine Blessings, Goodness, Love, Mercy, Blessed Divine Order of God the Holy Spirit.

    And how much I, personally, simply want for ALL OF YOU to live a blessed, joyful, peaceful, love-filled and loving LIFE altogether!

    Personally, that would make ME very happy.

    – +Fr. Joseph

  152. charlie November 1, 2010 @ 9:34 pm

    Fr Joseph,

    The Legion of Mary is a dangerous cult which totally misconstrued its founders spiritual dimension in describing spiritual warfare for a worldly one of bullying, persecution and hounding people to join.

    I am glad you are no longer part of it.

  153. marshall[Maher-shalal-hash-baz] November 2, 2010 @ 5:03 am


    To this point we were discussing religion. Now you are interjecting personal attacks.

    This is the method of SATAN, who can not touch a Christian spiritually, so he resorts to ANGER and DISTORTION of the word of God.


  154. Fr. Joseph November 2, 2010 @ 8:15 am


    I never, never, NEVER bullied, persecuted or hounded people to join the Legion of Mary!


    What on earth are you talking about? As a matter of fact, when we received inquiries by other individuals – total strangers to us now, mind you – about the Legion of Mary and the possibility of joining it, EACH and EVERY LAST candidate would always, always, ALWAYS tell us about this certain special spiritual Grace that was moving them or tugging at them to JOIN the Legion of Mary.

    Never, never, NEVER was any of the members of our group COERCED/FORCED/BULLIED into joining our Legion’s ranks!

    Each candidate found himself, herself or themselves MOVED by this special Grace TO JOIN the Legion – and each and every last candidate member had a special and particularly unique sort of gift or talent or disposition that each and every last of the regular members of the Legion of Mary could not but help recognize as being a vital and important contribution to the local Legion of Mary group.

    – +Fr. Joseph

  155. Fr. Joseph November 2, 2010 @ 8:32 am


    Ssheshhh…looks like I have my work cut out for me here on RZN!

    The very first thing you simply MUST understand about ‘The Birds and the Bees’ is that WOMEN of our Human Race DO NOT simply give birth to ‘natures’ – each and every last one of the WOMEN of our World since the Dawn of Time give birth to PERSONS – real life and living HUMAN BEINGS, fully fledged members of OUR human race who are as FULLY HUMAN as you and I and the rest of the 6 billion human souls currently living on our planet earth!

    We are a RACE of ‘Incarnate Spirits’. We are all SPIRITS fused to a physical material BODY which operates within this seen All of God’s Creating and Sustaining – a created ‘All’ consisting of time, space, matter and energy and a created ‘All’ which relentlessly operates with and under the Universal Operative/Operating Principle known as ‘Cause and Effect’.

    The ONLY difference between ANY of us members of this Human Race of ours and that of the SON OF MARY Who happens to be JESUS, God’s Christ, Savior, Redeemer and Lord of our Human Race is this:

    The “spirit” that grants us our own personally unique living ‘Personhood’ as a member of our Human Race is a CREATED-BY-GOD spirit.

    The “Spirit” that grants Jesus His Own personally unique living ‘Personhood’ in and with our entire Human Race is a DIVINE UNCREATED ETERNALLY EXISTING SPIRIT.

    God, the Second Person of the Divine Omniscient, Omnipotent and Omnipresent Blessed Trinity, TOOK ON our human nature and…BECAME MAN!

    Every last MAN currently alive and living in our contemporary Human Race has and owes his very life and existance to a WOMAN who happens to be his MOTHER!

    Jesus Christ is NOT a ‘Thing’. Jesus Christ is NOT a ‘Nature’. Jesus Christ is a PERSON. Jesus Christ is a MAN. Jesus Christ has A MOTHER!

    Yet the ‘spirit’ that grants Jesus His Personhood, His Humanity, His LIFE within God’s Own Creation is NOT a God-created spirit which is fused to a physical body – the ‘spirit’ that grants Jesus His Personhood, His Humanity, His LIFE within God’s Own Creation is the UNCREATED DIVINE SPIRIT of God Himself!

    Jesus is BOTH fully Divine and fully HUMAN!

    Hence, the Blessed Virgin Mary really and truly IS ‘The Mother of God’!

    – +Fr. Joseph

  156. Fr. Joseph November 2, 2010 @ 9:52 am

    “….Blessed are the Peacemakers…”

    My gosh, just another day here on this planet earth in this year 2010 Anno Domini amid the current population of around six billion human souls – and everyone is “clubbing” each other into a pulp one way or another – physically, economically, politically, financially, militarily, intellectually, emotionally, verbally, spiritually, mentally, sexually, religiously, etc.

    Just another day….”The more things change, the more they stay the same.”

    Dear Marshall – well, as far as I can tell, I’m the ONLY ordained Priest here on RZN who is trying to “play referee” between ALL of the many and various contenting parties who come in to “join the fray” via their postings to Br. Nathanael’s RZN articles’ commentary sections.

    Now regarding ‘The Bible’ which you – and many, many others – cite or refer to in order to promote or substantiate their own particular ‘take’ on Christianity…

    Ya know, if only Martin Luther had ADMITTED that he suffered from the spiritual condition known as ‘Scruples’ thus being tormented by and allowing himself to be tormented by the thought-vision of himself being CONDEMNED TO HELL, we might have NEVER EVEN HEARD the Protestant Reformation’s verbal and all-emotional ‘Battle Cries’ of ‘SOLA SCRIPTURE’ (ie. ‘The Bible ALONE!’) and ‘SOLA FIDE’ (ie. ‘Saved by faith ALONE!’).

    My dear Marshell – the Canon of the Church’s Sacred CHRISTIAN Scripture was compiled and approved by the Church Councils of Carthage and Hippo (397 & 400 AD respectively, or thereabouts) and APPROVED by the Bishop of Rome for ONE PARTICULAR-SPECIFIC PURPOSE…

    …that the ‘Average Joe’ and the ‘Average Jane’ on the streets of the Roman Empire would have AUTHENTIC APOSTOLIC TEACHINGS in the form of the Four Gospel accounts and the other 23 written letters/accounts in that section of ‘The Bible’ identified with belonging to ‘The New Testament’.

    And that those BIBLE-READINGS from those 27 writings, those ‘books’ instructing human souls all about ‘The New Testament’, would form part-and-parcel of what is called ‘The Christian Church’s Liturgy of THE WORD of God’ which PRECEEDS the Christian Church’s Liturgy of the Lord Jesus Christ’s Own Liturgy of THE EUCHARIST.

    The Protestant Reformation “RIPPED OUT” and “RIPPED AWAY” that Bible of yours OUT OF CHRISTIAN-WORSHIP CONTEXT which is either the Western or Eastern Church’s MASS or DIVINE LITURGY!

    Now then, with that having been said, IF you were to simply take up ‘YOUR’ Bible and s-l-o-w-l-y read all about GOD taking on our HUMAN NAUTRE via the conception within the WOMB of the Blessed Virgin Mary who is the MOTHER OF GOD…

    Matthew 1:18
    “She was found to be pregnant through the Holy Spirit.”

    Matthew 1:20
    “What is conceived IN her is from the Holy Spirit.”

    Matthew 1:21
    “She will give birth to A SON (not a ‘nature’ – parens mine).”

    Matthew 1:23
    “The Virgin will CONCEIVE and GIVE BIRTH to A SON, and they will called Him Immanuel (which means ‘GOD WITH US’).

    Matthew 3:71
    “And a Voice from Heaven said ‘This is My SON, Whom I love, with Him I Am well pleased.”

    Matthew 8:29
    “What do You want from us, SON OF GOD?’ they shouted. ‘Have You come here to torture us BEFORE the appointed time?'”

    Matthew 14:13
    “Then those who were on the boat WORSHIPPED Him saying, ‘Truly, You ARE the Son of God!'”

    Matthew 16:16
    “Simon Peter answered, ‘You are the Messiah, the SON of the Living God!'”

    Matthew 17:5
    “This is My Son Whom I love; with Him I Am well pleased. LISTEN TO HIM!'”

    Marshall – please…go to this website

    and type in the words ‘MY SON’ in order to obtain from “your” Bible that GOD took on OUR human nature as a REAL PERSON Who has for His Own Mother the BLESSED VIRGIN MARY!

    We all CAN’T be 1) Bishops 2) Theologians 3) Bible Scholars 4) Priests 5) Preachers 6) Teachers, etc.

    Some of us – well, MOST OF US – are really and truly called and ‘charged by God Himself’ to be a) DISCIPLES b) STUDENTS c) FOLLOWERS d) SERVANTS e) CONTRIBUTORS, etc.

    We all can make EXCEPTIONAL ‘HEADWAY’ in our own personal, familial, communal, national and spiritual lives as PEOPLE, as HUMAN BEINGS, if but only we LISTEN and LEARN and DO what our Human Race’s DIVINE SAVIOR told us and tells us to do!

    ‘Why do you all call Me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ and NOT DO what I say?’

    – +Fr. Joseph

  157. Fr. Joseph November 2, 2010 @ 10:58 am

    Just want for all of you to know that being ORDAINED into the Church’s Priesthood in no way, manner, shape or form confers any sort of ‘DIVINITY’ on the man.

    Kick me in the shins, and I’ll yell out in pain. If I don’t get enough sleep I, too, feel miserable and often become a miserable person to be with. If I don’t eat, I get hungry big time. And with my blood sugar levels low, I’m not the nicest of persons to be around.

    Same goes for water. I don’t get enough water and my thirst relentlessly “bugs” me. And I get upset and disturbed with I’m LIED to as well. I don’t like things STOLEN from me, nor do I like people smiling pleasently at me in face-to-face encounters and exchanges when they are simultaneously planning to pull some sort of ‘scam’ on me or over me.

    Such is HUMAN NATURE. I have one. You all have one. And we ALL share in this same, common, universal ‘Human Nature’ that is ours on account of all of us being members of God’s Own HUMAN RACE here on this planet earth of His Creating and Sustaining.

    But like in that old T.V. show series aired in in the United States of America decades ago known as ‘Mission Impossible’, being an ordained Priest in our day-and-age is very much like being one ‘Mr. Phelps’ from that ‘Mission Impossible’ T.V. show series where the “voice” of the authorizing agent of the ‘Secretary of State’ advises Mr. Phelps with these words…

    “Your Mission, Mr. Phelps, should you decide TO ACCEPT IT…”

    So, from my personal point-of-view, the seemingly ‘Mission Impossible’ for me in being a single, solitary ordained Priest to the Church’s Monastic Brotherhood in this particular day and age with our entire World is SUCH SORRY SPIRITUAL SHAPE;

    And on the verge of every manner of man-made catastrophe to engulf our entire World one the one hand, and finding itself undergoing unforeseeable sorts of Catastrophies the result of God’s Divine Chastisements upon His Church and all of Mankind on the other hand, is this…

    ..TRYING to get as many hearts, minds, souls and spirits of PEOPLE anywheres throughout our World who are either reading or contributing to Br. Nathanael’s RZN website to turn whole-heartedly to their God, Creator, Sustainer, Lord, Savior, Redeemer as possible with these personal postings of mine to RZN.

    Well now, with THAT having been said and publicly stated, let’s get on with this current CONTENTIOUS religious-spiritual subject of such things as ‘DNA’ and ‘BLOOD TYPES’ and JESUS having a REAL MOTHER and God Himself taking on our human nature SO AS TO save us from eternal death by granting us His Eternal Life with Him in His Divine Paradise and Heavens….

    – “+Mr. Phelps”

  158. Fr. Joseph November 2, 2010 @ 11:19 am

    The immediate spiritual problem –

    In the minds and hearts, souls and spirits of “my fellow U.S. citizens” in this year 2010 Anno Domini is this – this ‘Universally Accepted and Acceptable Spiritual Belief’ that might be simply be described as a ‘No-Consequences Universal Naturalism’.

    To put that simply, people really and truly do believe, act and behave AS IF there is no God, no Creator-Sustainer of all that is either seen or Unseen COUPLED WITH this crazy, bizarre notion that there is NO SUCH THING as ‘Cause and Effect.’ –

    And by that notion, people actually believe that they can do anything at all via their exercisings of their free wills and have NOTHING adverse, injurous or unfortunate befalling THEM as an individual person OR as a group of persons in their own particularly indentifable group/grouping or man-made human conventions (such as nation-states, governmental agencies, corporations, secret society social clubs, etc.).

    Yet, as an ordained Priest, my own personal ‘Mission IMPOSSIBLE’ is to attempt telling, advising, informing, educating and yes, WARNING, others that there really and truly IS a God Who just so happened to take on our own human nature AS a Real Life Human Being roughly 2,000 years ago.

    And this GOD, this Creator-Sustainer of ALL that is seen or Unseen just so happened to tell us, to reveal to ALL OF US, what it is that we are SUPPOSED TO BE DOING with these lives of ours here in this seen side of His Creation!

    People the world over DO NOT like to hear THAT on account of their currently being so obsessed, conditioned, transfixed, mesmerized by THE FACT that they all have a ‘FREE WILL’ and are afforded the ability TO CHOOSE as well as TO DO that which THEY would much prefer doing WITH their own lives and WITH this seen Creation of God’s Creating and Sustaining.

    Now THAT is the ‘Spiritual Dilemma’ that a single, solitary Priest of the Lord’s Church Militant here on earth faces.

    And not only that, I have those who are sworn spiriutal ENEMIES of God Incarnate Himself who are “holed up in” and “hiding behind” all of those outward signs of being either a true ‘member of the Church Militant’ or NOT being a spiritual “traitor” to Jesus Christ the Lord our God.

    But anyways…let’s attempt to address this currently contentious issue of such things like ‘DNA’ and ‘BLOOD TYPES’ as it relays to the Apostolic Christian Faith of the Church Militant here on earth…

    – +Fr. Joseph

  159. Fr. Joseph November 2, 2010 @ 11:44 am

    Regarding the ‘Blood of God Incarnate Himself’…

    In the Church Militant’s Gospel accounts of Sts. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John as well as in the letter of St. Paul the Apostles to the members of the Church in Corinth, we are INFORMED that Christ Jesus DESIRES to ‘Share His Divine Blood’ with us in the Church Militant’s Christian Sacrament of the Eucharist.

    Matthew 26:26-29; Mark 14:22-25; Luke 22:19-20; John 6:52-71 & 1 Corinthians 11:23-32.

    Now the Lord Jesus Christ’s OWN BLOOD TYPE has been already scrupulously and scientifically to be blood type ‘AB’…

    “The Flesh and the Blood have the same blood type, AB.” – quoting from the on-line and in-the-public-Worldwide-domain Internet reference webpage:

    Now that we are ALL “armed” with THAT bit of Divine Body-Blood Physiology information,
    we then go LOOK UP the properties latent WITHIN real, honest-to-goodness HUMAN BLOOD, Type ‘AB’, that was and IS Christ Jesus’ Own Blood Type:

    “People with type AB blood are UNIVERSAL RECIPIENTS because they do NOT have any antibodies that will recognize type A or B surface molecules.” – quoting from

    What THAT MEANS for all of us member of the ENTIRE Human Race is this:

    That Christ Jesus can ACCEPT each and every LAST ONE OF US into His Very Own Personal BODY in order TO INCORPORATE ALL OF US into His Very Own Risen-From-The-Dead BODY so as to grant onto ALL OF US His Very Own Personal IMMORTAL-ETERNAL LIFE – since there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in His Blood that can REJECT/DESTROY/ATTACK any of us member of the entire Human Race!

    Christ Jesus is our ‘Universal RECIPIENT’ and by becoming a member of His Mystical Body here on earth – HIS CHURCH – we become ‘part of Him’ and He becomes ‘part of US’!

    “Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me?” ‘Who are you, Lord?’ he asked, and the Voice answered, ‘I AM JESUS, AND YOU ARE PERSECUTING ME!'” – Acts 9:4-5

    Please take CAREFUL NOTE about this fact, folks. Saul was out PERSECUTING the members of the Lord’s early Church, the Lord’s Own DISCIPLES – and God Incarnate Himself Who Is JESUS Christ informs Saul that he was persecuting HIM!

    Now this itsy-bitsy DNA-BLOOD TYPE-GOD’S HUMAN MOTHER MARY factual information now causes us to turn our spiritual and RELIGIOUS attention onto the Church Militant’s Christian Sacrament of THE EUCHARIST which is really and truly BOTH the Body and Blood of our RISEN DIVINE SAVIOR Who Is Christ Jesus, the LOGOS Incarnate, the only eternally begotten Son of GOD THE FATHER of us all….

    – +Fr. Joseph

  160. charlie November 2, 2010 @ 1:08 pm

    Fr Joseph,

    First of all, what I am about to say does not mean in my view that you are not a good person.

    In fact you are a great person.

    Fr Joseph, the Legion of Mary in this country is exactly as I have described.

    You say it is not.

    Masons in this country are exactly as I have described elsewhere.

    Masons on the USA say it is not the case.

    I only have your and their word on both these issues.

    However the particular “Fatima” organization you belong to is an offensive organization with a bullying, insulting attitude to all the other Fatima organizations, which as far as I am aware do believe/know the consecration of Russia has taken place. Therefore your organization is a contentious sect.

    This is shown on this forum by your arrogant and illogical dismissal without adequate reason of every proof by me that this consecration has taken place. This is divisive of the church and not defensive of it.

    There are no bishops or popes on this forum that can be influenced by your constant ‘crowing’. Sorry to have to use that word but that is what it is to my ears.

    There are no bishops or popes period who believe the consecration has not been done, with the obvious exception of your own bishop, which is not really part of the church anyway but some dutch sect, am I correct?

    Even it it was / is a part of the church you are not in accordance with the magisterium of the church or obedient to the popes in this regard so you are therefore separated by your own volition, therefore you have no business telling them what to do period.

    There is no one on this forum that actually believes your endless tirades unless they have been brainwashed by you, in which case you are liable for their spiritual confusion.

    Therefore there is no one on this forum who prays for your version of the consecration and I doubt that even you pray for it but I could well be wrong.

    Defend the church?

    You have separated yourself from the church and are attacking it.

    This, as I have postulated to you in the past, is the reason Almighty God had to, in your confession, bring you into his presence and shake the living daylights out of you and tell you face to face and/or through his daughter Mary

    “Defend the church!”

    And so my view is that you did not listen to them, ….. so maybe…. God has sent me to you?


    I’m sorry you regarded concern for the welfare of your soul, a personal attack.

    So be it.

  161. Fr. Joseph November 2, 2010 @ 5:10 pm

    Dear charlie,

    Well, what country do YOU hail from? And please try to remember something about the ‘Universal Church Militant’ here in this World of ours, the year now being 2010 Anno Domini..

    Just because you find that you’ve purchased as gallon of SOURED MILK from your local food store – that DOES NOT MEAN that all of the gallons of milk throughout the rest of the World are ‘SOUR’ too!

    The Universal Church Militant here in our World is, accept this fact, comprised of SINNERS and every last one of us SINS and are SINNERS.

    Now our ‘Religious-Spiritual Job-Vocation’ in the Universal Church Militant here on earth is to use our God-given FREE WILLS in order TO STOP our sinning and our sinful ways – and we simply HAVE TO rely on the Sanctifying Graces of God and the Spiritual Gifts of God the Holy Spirit to “work at” IMPROVING our own personal spiritual health.

    And the more and more we IMPROVE our very own spiritual health, THAT is given the moral theological term of ‘SANCTIFICATION’ or, if you prefer, becoming a ‘HOLY PEOPLE’.

    Now with that having been said, I am not “attacking” anything of or anybody within the Catholic Church…

    “The NAORC is a valid Roman Catholic entity not currently in communion with the Holy See. The technical term employed by the Holy See for this type of Church is ‘valid Roman Catholic, but canonically independent’; which means, ‘sacramentally real but legally out of communion with Rome.” – from:

    And now with THAT out of the way, it’s time for both YOU and I to put on our prayerfully contemplative ‘Thinking Caps’.

    From the ‘OLD’ ways of Catholic thinking and of Catholic philosophical thought, the very ‘Old & Ancient’ philosophical principle was and has always been

    “Something CANNOT ‘Be’ and ‘Not Be’ at the same time!”

    Now there are those in/throughout the Catholic Church who ASSERT that the public and solemn Collegial Consecration of Russia to the Immaculately Loving Heart of Christ Jesus’ Own Mother, the Blessed Virgin Mary, was NOT DONE in accord with her 1917 A.D. Fatima, Portugal Apparitions and ensuing Messages-Instructions.

    And there are those in/throughout the Catholic Church who ASSERT that the public and solemn Collegial Consecration of Russia to the Immaculately Loving Heart of Christ Jesus’ Own Mother, the Blessed Virgin Mary, WAS DONE LONG, LONG AGO in full compliance to and in total filial obedience to Her 1917 A.D. Fatima, Portugal Apparitions and ensuing Messages and Instructions.

    Well now – ANY ‘GOOD’ CATHOLIC be he, she or they in FULL ‘legal’ communion with the Holy See or NOT in FULL ‘legal’ communion with the Holy See MUST IMMEDIATELY come to his, her or their spiritual SENSES by stating

    ‘Something CANNOT ‘Be’ and ‘Not Be’ at the same time!’

    Now what does the BISHOP OF ROME himself have to say about whether or not that public and solemn Collegial Consecration of Russia to the Immaculately Loving Heart of Christ Jesus’ Own Mother, the Blessed Virgin Mary was DONE OR NOT???

    “(1) On March 25, 1984, after the consecration of the world, POPE JOHN PAUL II SAID TWICE that Our Lady of Fatima’s request for the consecration of Russia WAS NOT DONE.

    “(2) Soon after the attempted Consecrtion of 1984, which DID NOT mention Russia or involve PARTICIPATION OF THE WORLD’S BISHOPS, Sister Lucia stated IT WAS INSUFFICIENT because it did NOT meet the requirements specified to her BY OUR LADY.”
    quoting from the on-line, in-the-public-Worldwide-Internet-domain reference page:

    So, my dear charlie, with our THINKING CAPS on:

    And as we ‘hymn & hoe’ over this current ARGUMENTS with and over whether or not the public and solemn Collegial Consecration of Russia to the Immaculately Loving Heart of Christ Jesus’ Own Mother, the Blessed Virgin Mary – the old LIGHT BULB atop of our THINKING CAPS just might GO OFF, and the following Thought just might REGISTER in our very own minds…


    Now you tell me, as one CATHOLIC Christian to another Catholic Christian – just exactly “WHO IS THE ‘FATHER OF LIES’?”

    Your ‘Thinking Cap’ goes back on:

    And we ‘hymn & hoe’ over the ANSWER to the question ‘WHO is the ‘father of LIES’?’

    Our ‘Thinking Caps’ LIGHT BULBS’ might very well LIGHT UP once again with the answer:


    So, if we Catholic Christians are being LIED TO by those who are dressed up TO LOOK LIKE Cardinals and Archbishops and Bishops and Priests and Religious there in THE VATICAN, then THAT MEANS THAT…


    And THAT is precisely what Fr. Malachi Martin, former PERSONAL SECRETARY to the Pope himself has ALREADY STATED IN PUBLIC many times and in many ways!

    Now IF you Google search the Blessed Virgin Mary’s Apparitions/Messages AS ‘Our Lady of Akita, Japan’ back in 1973 A.D., the MOTHER OF GOD HERSELF states that SATAN would infiltrate ‘His Satanic Buddies’ into and right on up into the Highest Ecclesiastical Positions of OUR Catholic Church (whether were are in ‘legal’ communion with the Holy See or not!)

    Now its THINKING CAP time once again:

    Now ‘WHY ON EARTH?’ would SATAN want to selectively insinuate his own SATANIC BUDDIES right there up into the Highest Ecclesiastical Positions of our Catholic Church’s own VATICAN???

    The ONLY possible religious-spiritual answer is this:


    And having SATAN’S HEAD CRUSHED under the heel of the WOMAN of Genesis 3:15 would mean ONE THING for our entire Human Race…


    The Bishop of Rome and those ‘KEYS’ that have been ENTRUSTED to him to both LOOSE and TO BIND here on earth is not – and I repeat – NOT A LAUGHING/JOKING MATTER!

    The actual survival of BOTH the Universal Church Militant here on earth right along with the REST OF MANKIND is currently at stake and ‘hanging in the Divine Balance’!

    – +Fr. Joseph

  162. KathJuliane November 2, 2010 @ 7:40 pm

    Greetings in the Lord Jesus, Marshall[Maher-shalal-hash-baz]

    Congratulations, my brother in Christ, you’ve stepped back into time to the furious Christological controversies over Jesus’ two-natures in One Person as the God-Man Christ that gave rise to the Third Ecumenical Council.

    It was this council that formally conferred the TITLE of Theotokos to the Virgin Mary, and you will be interested to know that it is a TITLE which defends the dogma of the Incarnation of Christ in his two natures, divine and human, in the same one Person, from the error of Nestorianism.

    How about a little further vocabulary and definition work to help iron out the wrinkles?

    You wrote: “If Mary is the mother of Jesus and Jesus is God, is Mary the mother of God? NO!

    How can a human being be the mother of God, when God existed before the foundation of the world? God created the world and Mary. Mary is the mother of the MAN Jesus whose flesh bled on the cross.”

    I think I know what you are trying to say. This is one of those theological paradoxes that almost has to be worked out like an algebra problem using precise terms.

    The title Theotokos

    1. Adoption at the Third Ecumenical Council

    As a title for the Virgin Mary, Theotokos was recognized by the Orthodox Church at Third Ecumenical Council held at Ephesus in 431. It had already been in use for some time in the devotional and liturgical life of the Church.

    The theological significance of the title is to emphasize that Mary’s son, Jesus, is fully God, as well as fully human, and that Jesus’ two natures (divine and human) were united in a single Person of the Trinity.

    The competing view at that council was that Mary should be called Christotokos instead, meaning “Birth-giver to Christ.”

    This was the view advocated by Nestorius, then Patriarch of Constantinople. The intent behind calling her Christotokos was to restrict her role to be only the mother of “Christ’s humanity” and not his divine nature.

    Nestorius’ view was anathematized by the Council as heresy, (see Nestorianism), since it was considered to be dividing Jesus into two distinct persons, one who was Son of Mary, and another, the divine nature, who was not.

    It was defined that although Jesus has two natures, human and divine, these are eternally united in one Personhood. Because Mary is the mother of God the Son, she is therefore duly entitled Theotokos.

    Calling Mary the Theotokos or the Mother of God (Μητηρ Θεου) was never meant to suggest that Mary was coeternal with God, or that she existed before Jesus Christ or God existed.

    The Church acknowledges the mystery in the words of this ancient hymn: “He whom the entire universe could not contain was contained within your womb, O Theotokos.”

    The title “Theotokos” continues to be used frequently in the hymns of the Orthodox Church.

    2. Translating the word Theotokos

    While some languages used by various Orthodox churches often have a single native word for Theotokos, it gets translated into English in a number of ways.

    The most common is Mother of God, though God-bearer and Birth-giver to God are also fairly common. There are difficulties with all these translations, however. The most literally correct one is “Birth-giver to God,” though God-bearer comes close.”
    There’s much more helpful information and explanations here I hope you will find interesting about the Virgin Mary as the Theotokos:

    Hope this helps, dear brother in Christ.

  163. Fr. Joseph November 2, 2010 @ 8:15 pm

    “Now for something COMPLETELY different!” – trite line from many of the Monty Python televised shows.

    “FATHER! It is our DUTY and our SALVATION always and everywhere to give You THANKS through Your Beloved Son, Our Lord Jesus Christ. He is THE WORD through Whom You made the universe, the Savior You sent to redeem us.”

    All of us are constantly and seeminly perpetually FORCED INTO hearing all about what OTHER mere human beings do, have done, are doing, have, want to have 24/7/365 over our tvs, radios, mass media of every type, printed matter, etc. ad nasuem.

    It’s high time for ‘something Completely Different’!

    Lets turn our minds and hearts onto some New and Fresh Things dealing with the Divine SUPERNATURAL Order which sustains and keeps in existance this ‘world’ all about us filled with so many human beings fixated upon and obsessed with their ‘Havings’ and with their ‘Doings’.

    We ALL need-a-break from THAT stuff. So let’s turn our heartfelt thoughts and attention on ‘BEING’!

    The Two Divine Dynamic Spiritual Principles that are Eternally-in-Motion and At-Life within God’s Supernatural Life are 1) SELF-DONATION and 2) Perfect Attention of One’s Other’s Self.

    God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are Perfectly in the Divine Embrace of SELF-DONATION to One Another thus granting Each Divine Member of the Blessed Trinity the Perfect Attentiveness of Each Other’s Divine Nature and Divine Life which is Theirs and Theirs Alone.

    God, in Himself, is PURE ‘Living Spirit of Being’ and THAT sort of Divine Supernatural Life is PURE INFINITE INTIMATE LOVE for Each Other.

    There is PERFECT Spiritual Intimacy between and among God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit – and it is this Perfect Spiritual Intimacy with One Another which consists of Their Divine, Immortal and Eternal Supernatural LIFE as God.

    Our religious-spiritual lives, the UNDERTAKING of those religious-spiritual lives of ours AS created ‘creatures’ of God Most High who are ALL created in His Image and Likeness, consists of UNDERTAKING the spiritual tasks via our own free will of ‘BEING LIKE GOD’…

    …and that ‘being LIKE God’ consists of our own unique and personal CHOICE to be ‘Self-Donating’ to OTHERS as well as willfully undertaking COMPASSION for one another in order to ‘Get To Know’ the others ’round about us.

    We are ALL called to exercise our free wills in order to TAKE CARE of one another, in order to come TO UNDERSTAND and ‘To Know’ one another – and AS we engage in those freely willed actions-activities that ARE readily available to each and every last one of us who call ourselves ‘Human BEINGS’ – we ENTER into the ‘Spiritual State’ of INTIMACY with one another.

    And THAT is how we all ‘Be’ and ‘Become’ who we really and truly are and who we are meant to become!

    We are ALL called ‘To Be’ and ‘To Become’!

    Yet, if you simply gaze out upon and all across our contemporary World “as-it-is”, there are those who are endowed with a nature which grants them the title ‘Human BEING’, yet so many REFUSE ‘To Be’ and REFUSE ‘To Become’ because they much prefer to have the lives of ‘Human DOINGS’ or ‘Human HAVINGS’ – or more likely they have been SUCKERED/DUPED into adopting lives of mere ‘Doing’ and ‘Having’ by their secularized social conditioning crafted FOR them all by those who CONTROL the economic and political life of the nations-states of our contemporary GOD-FORESAKING/REJECTING World of 2010 Anno Domini.

    And without ‘Being’, there is NO real ‘Inte-Mate’ or Intimacy. And without real spiritual Intimacy, there is but left for individuals an existance of alienation and loneliness and isolation. In such a World, there is NO real Human ‘Common-Unity’ or true and authentically REAL and SUBSTANTIAL human communities.

    There is left but BLAND existance, co-existing with other INANIMATE created material substances while treating and considering OTHER human beings as ‘inanimate things/substances’ as well.

    And THAT is exactly what our contemporary God-rejecting, Christ Jesus-hating, Revealed-Religion-mocking WORLD of 2010 Anno Domini IS and has become.

    Inanimate substances of all sorts and types, liquids (such as OIL) and solids )such as GOLD or SILVER) are desired as our ‘constant companions’ WHILE real life human beings are treated as if they were but LIFE-LESS INERT INANIMATE SUBSTANCES!

    That, my dear RZN friends, is what Sr. Lucy, the Fatima visionary, called our contemporary age’s “DIABOLICAL DISORIENTATION”!

    – +Fr. Joseph

  164. charlie November 3, 2010 @ 4:08 pm









  165. marshall[Maher-shalal-hash-baz] November 3, 2010 @ 7:22 pm

    Fr Joseph:

    Do you believe in ANY personal relationship to the Lord Jesus Christ?

    I notice that many Catholic Churches have a sign outside the Church building that says: WELCOME. Most Protestant Churches have a sign outside the Church building that says: ALL ARE WELCOME.

    Did not Jesus say “all are welcomed at my fathers table”? Why am I not welcomed into the Catholic church as one of the”all”?

    My, do I first have to be a Catholic before I can enter a Catholic church?

    If I were stranded on a desert island with out a Catholic church, and with out a priest, and there was ONLY a BIBLE, could I not READ FOR MY SELF, the words of THE LORD JESUS CHRIST and encounter HIS HOLY SPIRIT?

    Your answer IF it is NO can ONLY COME FROM SATAN!!! And ALL of the Pharisee arguments you can muster up will not change this!

    Read 1 Thessalonians 1:1: “Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the Church of the Thessalonians which is IN God the Father and IN the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace FROM God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.”

    Do I have “permission” from you to point out that the TRUE CHURCH IS IN CHRIST!!!!!! IN GOD THE FATHER!!!!

    I do not have to be excluded by your SATANIC “WELCOME” sign!!!!!

  166. marshall[Maher-shalal-hash-baz] November 4, 2010 @ 5:22 am

    A correction to my 7:22 PM post.

    “All are welcomed at my fathers table” is NOT in the Bible. It is a line from the series “Jesus of Nazareth”.

    However Pope Paul VI did personally request to Franco Zeffirelli, that this mini series be made!!!

  167. marshall[Maher-shalal-hash-baz] November 4, 2010 @ 6:41 am

    Fr Joseph,

    I see that you joined the bandwagon by refering to me as MARSHELL.

    This is a personal attack, which SATAN resorts to when he CAN NOT harm a CHRISTIAN spiritually.

    My name is very similar to the name of the son of the prophet Isaiah — “Mahershalalhashbaz.”

    Is this prophet also on your “HIT LIST”?

    The fact is I do not have the power or the desire to send you to Hell, as you “believe” that you can do to me. By making your “church” a substitute for the LORD JESUS CHRIST, you are denying the SALVATION that can ONLY come from him by HIS GRACE.

    He has not returned YET, so it is NOT to late to repent of your TIME EMBELLISHED SINS!!!!

  168. Fr. Joseph November 4, 2010 @ 7:54 am


    My gosh, you certain have a lot of HOSTILITY towards the Catholic Church!!!


    You answer me THAT question, and I’ll be more that glad to answer EVERY last one of your questions directed at me in public!

    – +Fr. Joseph

  169. marshall[Maher-shalal-hash-baz] November 4, 2010 @ 5:51 pm

    Fr Joseph,

    Galatians 1:10 “For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.”

  170. Fr. Joseph November 4, 2010 @ 8:23 pm


    The QUESTION was:

    “Who make you so HOSTILE to the Catholic Church? WHO???”

    I want to KNOW!

    Quoting to me from the CATHOLIC CHURCH’S OWN CANON OF SACRED CHRISTIAN SCRIPTURE simply does NOT “cut-it” with me!

    – +Fr. Joseph

  171. marshall[Maher-shalal-hash-baz] November 5, 2010 @ 7:04 am

    Fr Joseph, Who? Who? He WHO created me, you, AND the owl, whispers the answer to your question.

    The author of this hostility is the UNDERSTANDING of the WORD of the BIBLE!!

  172. Fr. Joseph November 5, 2010 @ 11:35 am


    About ‘UNDERSTANDING the WORD of the BIBLE!’


    “Think of our Lord’s PATIENCE as your opportunity to be saved; our brother Paul, who is so dear to us, told you this when he wrote to you with the wisdom that is his special Gift.

    “He always writes like this when he deals with this sort of subject, and this makes some points in his letter(s) hard to understand; THESE ARE THE POINTS THAT UNEDUCATED AND UNBALANCED PEOPLE DISTORT, IN THE SAME WAY AS THEY DISTORT THE REST OF (SACRED) SCRIPTURE – A FATAL THING FOR THEM TO DO!” – 2 Peter 3:15-16

    Now then, what makes YOU so darn sure that YOU haven’t and aren’t DISTORTING SACRED SCRIPTURE just as one ‘Pastor’ John Hagee and his fellow LEGIONS of Dispensationalist Zionist-Global Criminals & Mass Murderers supporting-aiding & abetting ‘BIBLE BASED PASTORS’ are CURRENTLY DOING right in full view of YOUR TWO EYES and in front and in FULL VIEW of the entire human population of our God-given Planet Earth???

    And yet, YOUR HOSTILITY is directed at the Catholic Church who GAVE YOU ‘your’ Bible!

    So you see, dear Marshall, I, too, am PERFECTLY CAPABLE OF ‘QUOTING CHAPTER & VERSE’ RIGHT BACK AT YOU. So what on earth makes YOU think that I’M WRONG and that YOU’RE RIGHT!?

    I’m ordained by THE LORD to teach, preach and DEFEND the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic FAITH of our Lord’s Own APOSTLES!

    By what or whose “authority” do YOU go about attacking, assailing, assaulting, impugning and INSULTING the Apostolic Faith of the Catholic Church here on earth?

    – +Fr. Joseph

  173. marshall[Maher-shalal-hash-baz] November 5, 2010 @ 6:52 pm

    Fr Joseph,

    How can I attack, assail, assault, impugne and insult your church, If you believe in your HEART 1 Peter 3:13 “And who is he that will harm you, if ye be followers of that which is good?”

  174. Fr. Joseph November 6, 2010 @ 12:48 am


    I’m ENDING this useless, pointless and utterly unproductive exchange with you.

    Go get yourself ‘EDUCATED’!

    Go READ…

    The Early Church Fathers @

    Eusebius and CHURCH HISTORY @

    How the Reformation Happened @

    Where We Got The Bible @

    And then, FINALLY, if you want to make your own personal contribution to “Straightening Out Our Royally Fouled Up Judiazed World of 2010 Anno Domini”, go READ…

    Catholic Principles of Politics @

    “My People PERISH for lack of knowledge!” Prophet Hosea – Hosea4:6

    “The World Struggle is NOT political or economic. Rather, it is RELIGIOUS and THEOLOGICAL. It is either God or atheism.”
    – U.S. 5 Star General Douglas MacArthur to visiting Catholic Bishop Fulton Sheen in Allied Occupied Japan

    – +Fr. Joseph

  175. KathJuliane November 6, 2010 @ 9:08 am

    Greetings in our Lord Jesus Christ, marshall[Maher-shalal-hash-baz],

    Allow me to suggest this online text to help iron out more wrinkles:

    Orthodox Dogmatic Theology: An Exact Exposition

    Protopresbyter Michael Pomazansky

    “ORTHODOX DOGMATIC THEOLOGY was written not for academic theologians, but primarily for *pastors*, and thus it has a practical approach and simplicity of presentation that is missing in many works of contemporary academic theology.”

    The late Fr. Michael in his humble and eirenic fashion also discusses some of the more common theological, dogmatic and doctrinal differences between Catholicism, Protestantism, and compares with that of Orthodox theology, which is 100% rooted in Scripture within the teachings of the unchanged Faith and Tradition (teachings passed on like a baton in a marathon race) of the “ancient, historical Church of the Apostles.”

    Put on the whole armor of Faith, my brother in Christ.

    IC XC
    NI KA

  176. marshall[Maher-shalal-hash-baz] November 8, 2010 @ 6:27 am

    Fr Joseph:

    Will you tell THE LORD JESUS CHRIST at the Second Death that HIS word is “useless, pointless and utterly unproductive?”

    Yes good father, I have and LOVE to read Eusebius “History of the Church” and have never encountered ONE instance in this book where Eusebius RAN from the truth of the Scripture.

    That being said, on the subject of “go get yourself educated” I would like Paul, and not you, to provide the LAST WORD in what has been an exchange that will ONLY be rectified in HEAVEN.

    1 Corinthians 1:21-25 “For after that in the wisdom of God the World by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

    “For the Jews require a sign and the Greeks seek after wisdom: But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumbling block, and unto the Greeks foolishness; But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.”

  177. Joe Cortina November 12, 2010 @ 12:54 pm




    With little exception – I saw only a couple dozen of the same names over and OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN!

    May I remind you that this is a forum with a very definitive purpose. The purpose is to educate Americans – AND hopefully inspire them to TAKE ACTION so as to save what is left of our dying Republic – occupied at every level by the Jews.

    This arrogant egotistical interpersonal squabbling has GOT TO STOP! Bro Nate and I have BOTH warned you that this kind of devisive conduct serves ONLY to divide us AND ALSO has the effect to turn off potentially new readers/conributors from participating.

    NOBODY wants to get involved in ENDLESS melays of gossip and attacks between narcisstic self-absorbed grown intelligent men who insist on resorting to childish bantering like kindergarten school children – with endless ” is so – IS NOT – is so – IS NOT” nonsense to satisfy personal egos.

    STOP IT! DAMNIT! You achieve nothing and risk ultimate rejection from countless new readers who perceive that we are a group of self-absorbed pseudo-intellectuals who are more interested in having the LAST SAY -SO than in learning or imparting new FACTS – valuable in pursuit of our ultimate objective.

    In case you think I exaggerate – there were SIXTY SIX blogs left by only THREE people – ALL involved in Catholic church dogma issues!

    Almost FORTY PERCENT of the entire effort of journalistic contributors to Brother Nathanael’s fine educational presentation – had broken down into petty off topic personal squabbles between THREE PEOPLE! Add the same type comments by the next three worst violators and it topped ONE HUNDRED! THAT IS INSANE!

    Have you no consideration or respect for what this dedicated man of God is trying to do for us ALL?

    Can we simply just show some respect for others and discipline ourselves to just one comment – or if clarification is deemed necessary – or an untruth specificly dangerous to not be corrected on the spot is detected – then one or at the MOST two additional ON TOPIC comments are appropriate. Simply use good judgement

    Can you imagine what a visitor must think when he or she reads DOZENS of arguments from the SAME PERSON time after time after time – ALL non-related – and ALL to simply negate or enforce personal religious issues?

    If – the man who runs the show – a monk – a consecrated, educated, dedicated Christian – can keep his presentations from becoming a prosetylizing Sunday School class for theological minutiae – why the hell can’t we practice the same discipline – so as not to discredit the effectiveness of our righteous and arguably imperative agenda?

    PLEASE – I’m begging you for the sake of the Foundation – show some discipline – keep focused. When you see this abuse beginning – DO by all means – make a written comment that requests staying on topic.

    A separate comment requesting a future topic not yet covered – or that arguably needs more exposure is encouraged – by all means.

    However – put an end to this disruptive negative damaging nonsense – and if you feel so passionate about something you feel is more important than what we are doing here – you can always do what I did years ago – start your own site – where YOU make ALL of the rules.

    And remember RZN depends upon YOUR Generosity.

    ‘Prayers’ don’t pay secular bills for services that make this site live – your DOLLARS DO!

    Please – give something back to keep these alternative truth sites alive and free – since true freedom of the press in ‘occupied AmeriKa’ – has been strangled by our Jew masters.

  178. Susie December 17, 2010 @ 1:13 pm

    Bro. Nathanael,

    You are even more BRILLIANT on video!!! Excellent content. Thank you.

  179. SF Catholic September 18, 2012 @ 12:17 am

    See, I’m Castilian-Latin and when you say White people, you are just grouping us all into a USA American stereotype of what being White means and is not necessarily true in other parts of the world.

    You see, within the White group you have Anglo-Saxons which is the dominate culture in the USA and you have the Latin people (those that speak the Roman languages) and I would even say even Jews are “considered” “White” by American standards, they are definitely not Black or Latino or Asian or Native American or Polynesian or Arabic or any other type of group or classification that the USA governments uses for the census thus for electing representatives.

    As a “White” Spanish American and as being in the Latin family, I would much rather see my “brown” but also fellow Spanish/Latin and fellow Catholic–let’s say Mexicans–come into power over then some other White, non-Latin, non-Catholic group.

    So being White to me isn’t the ultimate goal, but then again the Roman/Latin people and their descendants have always been a mixed bunch breed of the best of the best. It always been about culture, language, religion and loyalty over race and skin pigmentation.

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