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  1. Brother Nathanael July 3, 2011 @ 3:10 am


    My Life As An Orthodox Monk
    By Brother Nathanael Kapner
    Copyright 2011
    All Rights Reserved
    Growing up in Judaism and finding it bereft of a heaven to gain and a hell to shun, at the age of twenty one I embraced the Lord Jesus Christ as the Jewish Messiah and the message of the New Testament, and afterwards, the Orthodox Church.

    After twenty five years making a good living as a successful straight-commissioned salesman of Industrial Chemicals, I left the rat race in 1996 and joined an Orthodox monastery seeking quiet, interior prayer and healing for my soul.

    A whole new world was opened up to me and this world, this experience, I wish to share with all of you now.

    Our day began at midnight when Father Luke sounded the Semitron calling us all, nearly fifty of us to prayer… to our midnight service called Divine Liturgy where we partook of Holy Communion.

    The service ended at 3 AM and we hurried back to our cells to start our prayer rule, a series of prayers and prostrations assigned to us by the Abbot, the Elder of the monastery. Then a brief nap.

    We were all up by 7:30 AM to begin our work, our chores, which we called our “obediences.”

    Some of us were Icon Painters – the livelihood of the monastery…painting and selling Icons – while the rest of us did the cleaning, the cooking, the general maintenance. While others were engaged in research, preparing manuscripts for books to be published.

    At noon we gathered in the Refectory, which we called, “Trapeza,” which in Greek monastic tradition means “Table.” We ate our meals in complete silence while a specially-assigned monks read from the Lives of the Saints.

    After clearing tables and doing dishes we were back in our cells for a brief nap…then back in Church at 3:30 PM for the late afternoon service of Vespers.

    A light meal would follow and then Compline, the final service of the day.

    After Compline the real work of a monk would begin.

    First we met with the Abbot, the Elder of the monastery, a seasoned monk who attained a high Spiritual virtue after spending years in quiet perfecting interior prayer known as the Jesus Prayer which purifies, illumines, and deifies the soul.

    We novices bared our own souls to the Elder, revealing our thoughts, our doubts, our struggles, and receiving in return, healing..consolation..cleansing, and experienced a deep monastic exchange received from the Elder, a transfer of grace.

    Back in our cells, we too worked on perfecting the Jesus Prayer repeating over and over again for three to four hours the words of the prayer, “Lord Jesus Christ Son of God Have Mercy on Me.”

    At first the Prayer is very difficult …almost impossible. Although called, “The Prayer of the Heart,” the words of the prayer all up in the head. The tedium and the seeming monotony is very wearisome.

    But if you keep on working on it, soon, with a flood of great warmth, the mind sinks down into the heart where the words of the Prayer, “Lord Jesus Christ Son of God Have Mercy on Me,” pulsate effortlessly like a quiet, bubbling, murmuring brook. Aah…

    Oh, it’s the Semitron! It’s midnight! Gotta go! It’s time for Church!

  2. Brother Nathanael July 3, 2011 @ 3:16 am

    Dear Real Zionist News Family –

    I started my monastic “communal” career in a Greek Orthodox Monastery at the age of 46 in 1996 until 2005 when Christ called me into a public ministry.

    But I still maintain a monastic life complete with a prayer rule as assigned to me by my Superiors which includes fasting, a one-meal-a-day Vegan diet, 2 hours of the Jesus Prayer daily, prostrations and Spiritual reading (no Television viewing.)

    AND – I work for a living putting hours upon hours into these Videos and the Articles as well as the Street Evangelism I conduct daily.

    Will You Please Help Me To Continue My Public Ministry?

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    Please Know That I DO Appreciate Our Real Zionist News Family & Have A GREAT Love For You All!

    Your Ever +Brother in Christ, Nathanael

  3. William July 3, 2011 @ 9:19 am

    Hi there Brother Nathanael.

    Ive never watched any of your videos. It is generally speaking for me, too painful to watch the crimes of Israel. I loved this video Nathanael, Ive been curious as to what you silly monks are doing up in the foothills of my city.

    Next time I see you I will say hello. I was also a monk at one time. Rest up Brother monk, fasten your seatbelt, the flight from here on out is going to be a bit bumpy.

    Love you bro, Z

  4. Gracie July 3, 2011 @ 9:21 am

    “Angels are a light to monks, and monks are a light to those living in the world.”
    The Ladder of Divine Ascent

    There are not two separate spiritualities in the Orthodox Church – one for monastics and another for lay people. Monastics are in a position to lead the way for the rest of us who struggle along in our own spiritual lives while we try to follow our “older brothers and sisters.”

    So, thank you +Brother Nathanael for giving us insight into the daily life of a monk.

    As the Prolegomena to Monastic Wisdom, The Letters of Elder Joseph the Hesychast, Dr. Constantine Cavarnos says the beginning of the spiritual path is self-examination with a view to self-knowledge. With this knowledge you become the wisest man. With this awareness, you reach humility and receive grace from the Lord.

    Elder Joseph placed great emphasis on the need of becoming aware of our passions and proceeding to struggle to overcome them, to free ourselves from them to attain “passionlessness,” which means purity.

    Passion in Orthodox Patristic writings, is a term used in two senses: l. to denote bad thoughts charged with emotion and 2. to describe vices where such thoughts become habits or bad traits of character. All the passions are viewed by Elder Joseph as “diseases of the soul” in need of therapy.

    “Man’s most precious possession is his soul, which is immortal; he must take care of it. It means striving to purify it of all the passions, and to adorn it with all the virtues, which perfect it as far as is possible during our life on the earth.

    As from sleep we shall wake up into the other life. Then we will see parents, brothers, relatives. Then we will see angels and saints.

    We shall converse with them as with brothers, giving one another a divine embrace, and continuously wondering at the heavenly choirs, until we reach our Master and Saviour, and thenceforeth remain inseparable.”

    ~ Elder Joseph

  5. Hoff July 3, 2011 @ 11:21 am

    Thank you for sharing your life with us Dear BN. l really liked this video.

    So your gang, BN, is some 50 monks. Gang war, one BN against six million Jews.

    And guess what Jew – you lose. Because BN will kick your sorry butt all the way to hell where you timeless, eternal lying Jew scumbags belong.

    How many in your gang is Jew-wise and can handle a computer?

    Some in your gang look like they are real badasses. l mean like, what Hells Angels? If your gang get some bikes, the HA will look like wusses 9D)

  6. Ivan in Ohio July 3, 2011 @ 1:03 pm

    The one thing that puzzles me about the monastic life is the continual sequestration in one place for one’s entire life, when in fact the Scriptures tell us to go out and fulfill the great commission and bring in the harvest.

    It strikes me that after spending years in preparation, the Lord decided to send you out into the world to implement His command to share the Gospel, and especially in your case where you hold the banner of Christ in the heart of Satan’s domain, New York’s Time Square.

    Let that anointing fall on hundreds of other monastics. Your powerful example has motivated many of us to also lay our lives down for the sake of Christ’s purposes as we prepare for His triumphant return.

  7. Kirk July 3, 2011 @ 1:29 pm

    You think weight lifters and athletes are real men?

    Not in comparison to the true manhood and spirituality it takes to live this monastic lifestyle. I sure don’t have the discipline and dedication to live as they do. I would feel like a real wimp in their presence.

    No wonder those NYC yids run like hell when +BN makes the sign of the cross and stares them down.

    They and the rest of the apostates who suck up to them for financial gain are going to run like hell one day and find it.

    Christ The Redeemer will indeed return in total glory with the heavenly hosts to kick butt, take names, and toss them into the Lake of Fire after they finally confess that Christ is indeed KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.

    Hoff, Glory B, Bill Carson and a few others, thanks for some very timely posts and information. You are a real treasure Hoff. Some of us have so much in common spiritually and mentally it is a bit uncanny in my view.

    “Lord Jesus Christ Son of God Have Mercy on Me.”

  8. Kirk July 3, 2011 @ 3:03 pm

    I forgot to mention that I love the monastic art. I know someone who uses monastic artwork paintings of Archangel Gabriel as well as Christ on his on his computers for background images in a public school classroom.

    He is sickened by seeing various students coming to school every day wearing t-shirts with satanic stars, and death metal “music.”

    No explanations or lessons are given concerning the images and no one says anything. He also likes to rotate with Carl Bloch paintings such as “Christ Clearing the Temple.”

    He tells me that this somewhat serves as a spiritual/psychological release mechanism from being surrounded by the inanity of the talmudic controlled “education system.”

    He will continue to do it as long as he can get away with it he says.

  9. hipriestess4u July 3, 2011 @ 3:24 pm

    Br. Nathanael,

    Your devotion overwhelmed me, instead of pointing the accusing finger, you showed your devotion to the Lord.

    That was great, it’s the first time I left your site without being aggravated. As long as there is faith, and devotion to that faith, there is hope.

    God bless you.

  10. AgreeToDisagree July 3, 2011 @ 5:09 pm

    I recall a documentary about another monk who lived in the Antarctic alone. How does one get such a setup? Would be quite relaxing IMHO.

    And keep the Orthodox thing alive and well, the Catholics seem too organized and media savvy (Machivellian-ish, tacky even?) while the Protestants are just too riddled with Wacos or other scandals and Church of England just for the English alone.

    I am Polytheistic btw, but barring the language barrier, Orthodox seems to be the most spiritual and sincere (although with a very authoritarian and VERY slightly sinister feel) among all denominations.

  11. Andy July 3, 2011 @ 7:02 pm

    It would be nice to leave this sick world and find a place where you can find yourself, in a peaceful setting.

    The world I live in is filled with helicopters buzzing in the middle of the night, traffic, noise, and confusion. This is truly not the way to live.

    The upheaval and lack of tranquility builds like an accelerating pulse train in an LC resonant circuit until you become a numb zombie, wondering how in God’s universe you wound up here, now.

    We all have a calling in this world to prove our worth, and it looks like Bro. Nathanael found it, but for some of us, it is difficult to find.

  12. "Zio-troll......etc July 3, 2011 @ 7:37 pm

    Whilst I as a Catholic am outside the Orthodox Charism it is good that it appears the Orthodox church did not have its “Vatican II” – “abomination of desolation” -” moment.”

    This devastation was so great that Our lady appeared at Garabandal (look it up) in Spain for the entire length of the Council, about 4 years from 1961-1965, to try to bring the church back to the correct path.

    They did not listen to her despite 2000 or so apparitions at Garabandal in that time.

    But Garabandal and its message persists and is relevant even more now than it was then in terms of the apocalyptic fullfillment of all that she said would happen, if she was not listened to, and she wasn’t.

  13. anon July 3, 2011 @ 11:14 pm

    Brother Kapner, are you Greek or Russian Orthodox?

    And I’m sure the Greeks are great people, but why do they look so similar to Ashkenazim?

  14. Brother Nathanael July 3, 2011 @ 11:24 pm

    Dear anon –

    I was with the Greek Orthodox Church for many years and now am with the Russian Orthodox Church (ROCOR) where my home parish is the headquarters in NYC.

    Greeks look “Mediterranean” and NOT at all like pale Jewish-Ashkenazim. NO relation whatsoever. +bn

  15. Bill Carson July 4, 2011 @ 7:26 am

    @ Zio Troll

    There has been only one known instance of a human being coming back from the dead and appearing to another person.

    That was recorded in the Book of 1 Samuel 28.

    The Prophet Samuel appeared to King Saul, when the King disobeyed God and went to an Astrologer to inquire about whether he should go out to fight the Philistines.

    Of course this was done because God had left him due to his disobedience.

    Samuel had been in a place called Paradise, a place where Christians were sent, down through the centuries, after they died to wait for the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

    God made this happen for a purpose. Normally this never happened but it did this one time for a reason.

    When Jesus Christ died on the Cross, He said it was finished. That meant the work was complete.

    No other work was needed. The Unblemished Lamb of God was sacrificed for the sins of the world and this act, would save those who would believe.

    When Christ died, the veil to the Temple was torn from top to bottom to signify, the end of the Levitical priesthood and to tell the world that all men have a Priest now and His Name is Jesus Christ.

    So now we may all approach the Throne of God with our petitions in prayer, through our High Priest Jesus Christ.

    With the death of Christ and His Resurrection, the place called Paradise was dissolved and all of the people that were in it, went to heaven.

    People in heaven cannot come back to this life. Mary was a human being. She died and went to heaven because she herself accepted Christ as her personal Savior.

    The work has been completed. Jesus said that I and the Father are one. He who has seen Me has seen the Father. Jesus was the Word. The Bible says that the Word became flesh and dwelt among us.

    When the Work of the Word was completed, there was no need for anymore revelations to men.

    To know the Will of God, all a man has to do is read His Word. It is so simple, yet so profound.

  16. Gracie July 4, 2011 @ 8:13 am

    +Brother Nathanael highlighted icon painting as a source of livelihood for the monastery. I have been smitten with this subject ever since I began my Orthodox journey late last year.

    An integral part of Orthodoxy that was new to me coming from a Protestant background is the veneration of icons. The word icon means image, representation, or portrait.

    I thought that such images were contrary to Scripture. So did many Christians over the centuries and even today some Protestants make accusations against the Orthodox use of icons.

    The key is the icon itself is not worshiped. It is the spiritual content of the images that is venerated. St. Basil the Great said that the veneration given to the image is transferred to the prototype. He speaks about icons, first and foremost, as devotional images, a window to the other world.

    When the Divine Word became flesh, it became capable of being depicted also. This is why St John of Damascus wrote:

    “When you see the incorporeal become flesh for your sake, then depict the likeness of Him who has appeared. When He Who, by virtue of the superiority of His nature, lacks body and form, quantity and quality, and dimension, Who, being in the form of God, took upon himself the form of a servant (Phil. 2, 6-7), and in so doing became limited both quantitatively and qualitatively and assumed human form, then sketch on panels and display for the contemplation of Him who did so desire to reveal Himself.”

    Icons reveal the Kingdom to come. Icons began to be painted in order to show this other world, the new heaven and the new earth, where Christ’s victory is complete, the victory of good over evil, life over death.

    Because of this, icons are different including space and time. The logic of the earthly world does not extend to icons, a fact stressed by reverse perspective. There is no single point on the horizon where all lines meet, and in which the objects get larger, rather than smaller, as they recede into the distance.

    Icons include events that have taken place at different times and in different places. Icons represent light and not darkness. Therefore, the figures do not cast shadows. Saints are also depicted from the viewpoint of eternity: free of blemishes, both physical and emotional; they are inspired.

    Orthodox icons are based on belief in the Incarnation, which not only does not deny the flesh, but sanctifies it and gives it a new higher meaning.

    Icons reveal the face of a dweller in paradise, not of an earthly person. While iconography does not ignore a saint’s individual features and external distinguishing marks (sex, age, hairstyle, headwear, etc.) the saint is depicted as transfigured, remote from earthly passions. He already belongs to a different world and looks down on us from there which is why icons never portray emotions or passions.

    Eyes are of special importance. The well-known expression that the eyes are the window of the soul applies perfectly to the icon. The eyes reveal the sanctity of what is represented, the light-bearing quality. The accent on the eyes creates the impression that rather than you looking at the icon, the icon is looking at you.

    This is an almost inexhaustible topic. Many wonderful books have been published on icon techniques, history, and theological principles. I reference A History of Icon Painting, published by Grand-Holding Publishers, Moscow 2007, as the source for my extracts above.

    I have purchased many of my own icons from There you will find a wide selection at reasonable prices. I have shopped around. However, if anyone of you knows of a “better” source of icons please share it.

    Icons have added an immeasurable influence to my prayer life at home. I highly recommend all who desire a more profound experience to add icons to their prayer wall. While you venerate the holy images also receive the grace that flows from them into your soul.

  17. Bill Carson July 4, 2011 @ 10:00 am


    You are making it much more complicated than it needs to be really. God is spirit. God is Perfect.

    When a man prays, God cannot hear his prayer because man is imperfect. We are on different wavelengths.

    So this is why the Holy Spirit intercedes on our behalf as told by the Apostle Paul, in the Book of Romans 8:26…

    Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

    So to me, icons are not needed. But if you feel they help you, then by all means.

    Since this is kind of a religious thread, I also must say another thing. Someone said a while back that they thought Protestants hated Catholics.

    I can tell you from my own experience, that I have never heard anyone in any church ever talk bad about Catholics, not once, ever.

    The main focus in church is supposed to be soul winning and this is the kind of atmosphere that I have been around most of my life.

    Being a Protestant, all my life, I am one of the very, very few, who walked out of the neocon fog, I am here to tell you.

    So I get into the Patriot movement (whatever that is) and I run into militant Catholics trying to hit me over the head all the time with the Latin viewpoints on things.

    It does get a bit tiresome at times, to say the least.

    As far as Orthodox people are concerned, I never really had many dealings with them over the years. I grew up in Houston, Texas.

    I think they have probably two Orthodox Churches there. I think I used to go over there on some of their feast days and have some good food etc.

    In Houston, the Greek people all know about each other and keep up with each other, no matter what their lot in life.

  18. Bill Carson July 4, 2011 @ 10:10 am

    You know, when you see things like this, it makes you want to throw up your hands and say it is over.

    There we are destroying someone else’s land and killing innocent people and dying for nothing, and this old man is over there helping them do it, and talking to me about their sacrifices?

    Sacrifices? For what? Murder and Mayhem? What do you do with old fools? You know you are in trouble when the old people simply do not get it.

    When I was a child, the old people were venerated and held to high esteem because they had the wisdom of their age, but no more.

    If I were to tell him what was really going on and what he really was doing, he would get very mad at me and tell me to leave him alone.

    For you see, he is in his comfort zone, a zone of his own creation, and he likes it there, in a place filled with lies and false patriotism.

    God help us.

  19. +Fr. Joseph July 4, 2011 @ 11:58 am

    Regarding the veneration of ICONS throughout the EASTERN Church, it was the Bishop of Rome, Pope Gregory II of the WESTERN Church who defended with FULL Papal acceptance and approval the truly devout Religious and Laity of the EASTERN Church use of, promotion of, production of and veneration of ICONS in the face of the POLITICAL and MILITARY threats of the Eastern Empire’s Emperor Leo III and his ‘spiritual counselor’, the agitating (as always seems to be the case in the East/West Schisms) Eastern Church’s heretical NESTORIAN Bishop, Xenaeas of Hieropolis.

    On-line, in-the-public-domain reference webpage about ‘ICONOCLASM’:

    In the Western Church, the readily available GOD-GIVEN raw natural material used by craftsmen and skilled artists was quarried MARBLE. That is the reason why RELIGIOUS STATUES are to be predominately found in the Christian Churches of THE WEST.

    In THE EAST, because MARBLE was not a readily available, the skilled craftsmen and artisans used EARTH MINERALS with which to make COLORED PAINTS of all sorts and types while using natural WOODS and FIBERS to express their own personal Christian spirituality in the production of ICONS.

    In the ‘General/Universal SPIRITUALITY’ of both the Western and Eastern Christian Churches, the absolute Central Doctrinal Assertion is that GOD HIMSELF took on our VERY ‘material’ and VERY ‘physical’ human nature in what is defined as ‘The Incarnation’.

    Hence, GOD HIMSELF full approves of MATTER so much so that He Himself UNITED Himself, through His Only Eternally Begotten Son JESUS, Second Divine Person of the Unseen Godhead, the Blessed Trinity, with MATTER.

    The proper and devout use of MATTER to depict any and all IMAGES of the Supernatural Fact-of-Religious-Life of GOD’S OWN participation in, use of and manifestations with MATTERS lies at the very heart and the very spiritual core of the veneration of ICONS, the veneration of STATUES and the use of such material things such as WATER and SALT and OIL and BREAD and WINE in the Christian Church’s spiritual life and communal WORSHIP of God in Our Lord JESUS Christ’s SACRAMENTS of His Very Own NEW COVENANT with all of Mankind.

    In the EASTERN CHURCH, such religious ICONS produced by the MONKS of the Eastern Church undergo a ‘Chrismation’ by the local ABBOT over that particular Monastery OR by a properly consecrated BISHOP.

    It is upon this ‘CHRISMATION’ that the particular Icon in question undergoes by either the local ABBOT or by a BISHOP that the ICON is imbued with ‘the spirit’ of that particular Saint or Angel or Divine Person the Icon depicts or visually represents.

    Such CAN BE DONE and truly DOES HAPPEN during such ‘Chrismations’ of ANY Icon produced by the MONKS of the Eastern Church, that the ‘material’ of that Icon becomes spiritually ‘imbued’ with the SPIRIT of the Angel, Saint or Divine Person the crafted/painted Icon image represents.

    And the ‘Spiritual Authority’ with which THAT occurs on, with and over ANY Icon produced by those of the Eastern Church has at its foundation the Divine-Supernatural Doctrinal-Dogmatic-Creedal TRUTH that GOD HIMSELF took on our human nature – that He Himself chose to become INFUSED INTO living and alive ‘human bodily MATTER’ in the Womb of the Most Holy Theotokos, the Blessed Virgin Mary, the WOMAN spoken about in Genesis 3:15 and Revelation 12:17.

    And at ALL of the Masses and Divine Liturgies of BOTH the Western and Eastern Churches, it is JESUS HIMSELF Who Is GOD INCARNATE Who, once again, unites HIS DIVINE SPIRIT into the MATERIAL of ‘Matter’ of the Bread and Wine consecrated into His Body and Blood by the officiating PRIEST at the Christian Church’s ALTAR.

    The Church’s ‘EUCHARIST’ is the LIVING and BREATHING ‘Icon’ of the Divine Presence of GOD HIMSELF among us men, women and children of our ENTIRE Human Race!

    Respectfully yours,

    – +Fr. Joseph
    Archimandrite – Nazareth Hermitage – U.S.A. Inc.

  20. "Zio-troll......etc July 4, 2011 @ 1:39 pm

    Bill Carson, if you speak against the Mother of Christ you speak against Christ.

    She only does his will, nothing else. Every time she appears on earth it is in obedience to God.

    Jesus Christ came back from the dead and we also partake in the person of Christ. Everything He has is ours.

    “I ascend to my Father, and your Father, to My God and your God.” — John 20: 17.

  21. Disgusted White Christian July 4, 2011 @ 1:54 pm

    @ Bill Carson,

    Bill, it is not that Protestants talk bad about Catholics, they don’t understand “intercession” also the concept of “statues” in Catholic churches.

    Many others outside of the Protestant religion don’t understand it either, and as usual, the Jew takes this misunderstanding and twists your mind with it through brainwashing, usual subliminally, without you even realizing it.

    Why you say “you have no knowledge of Protestants bad mouthing Catholic” their protocols or procedures.

    Intercession: is a request through a prayer, or more as you put it, someone closer to God’s DIVINE wavelength, or closer to the
    Holy Spirit of God to INTERCEDE for you to God, on your behalf, to listen to your humble prayer. Most use Mary, or a saintly figure dear to them.

    Statues are just a “TRIBUTE” to Christian, and angelic figures, for the sacrifices they have made to put you closer to that DIVINE wavelength, you speak of.


    But through our wonderful Zionist Jew media, they portray Catholics when not being pedophiles, or evil, as praying to statutes and supplementing God with Mary, like John Hagee preaches.


  22. "Zio-troll......etc July 4, 2011 @ 2:11 pm

    The Secret History of Western Education: The Scientific Destruction of Minds – Charlotte Iserbyt (repost)

    Charlotte Thompson Iserbyt served as the head of policy at the Department of Education during the first administration of Ronald Reagan.

    While working there she discovered a long term strategic plan by the tax exempt foundations to transform America from a nation of rugged individualists and problem solvers to a country of servile, brainwashed minions who simply regurgitate whatever they’re told.

    Part one of our exclusive interview with Iserbyt breaks down how conditioning/training under a corporate agenda has replaced traditional education, leading to a deliberate dumbing down of Americans.

    Iserbyt further explains how Reagan signed agreements merging the U.S. and Soviet systems under the United Nations banner, turning over education and many other areas of public policy to global control.

    This 74 minute exposé is a must see for anyone who wants to truly know why the education system is deliberately crafted to produce human drones with no critical thinking whose only skills are to be subservient, trust authority and follow orders.

  23. Stav July 4, 2011 @ 3:16 pm

    Hi all,

    To Br. Nathanael:

    Wow, your description made me remember the few days at a time that I have passed living amongst the Monks in Mount Athos, the few times I have been there.

    In a way I envy you, but then again, our God the Father has granted me a different path. Yet, again, in Orthodoxy, even in a family, the struggle is to make a little monastery out of your home…

    To the rest of our family here:

    A small little bit about icons.

    In the Septuagint, the only true version of the Old Testament, as written in Greek by Hebrews according to their old and still Holy Tradition, states in Greek that man was created:

    “κάθ εικόναν καί ομοίωσην”

    Which literally means: “according to His ICON and likeness”

    The word εικόνα (ikona), literally means Icon which is generally understood to mean image. But in the Greek, there is no distinction between the words image and icon as there is today in English.

    Thus, in Orthodoxy, in this context, we look at the life of a Christian as the struggle to become Icons of Christ, not just by name, since`we have all disfigured this icon, but in substance as well.

    And of course, Orthodox as well as Catholics, do NOT worship the image/icon, that is ridiculous to claim. No one would claim that one is worshiping the photo or image of their loved ones (whether passed or alive), but in the case of the Saints, they are happy to call it ‘worship,’ instead of what it really is.

    That is only one of the things that are said by some people to avoid getting closer to the original faith. And if one happens to do this as an individual and in an individual circumstance, rest assured that they are told immediately and clearly that this is wrong.

    We Orthodox, and for that matter, albeit a bit differently, remember the CHAMPIONS of the Greatest Struggle there EVER was, and that is to live according to the laws of God until the moment of Death. We ascribe reverence and love to our Martyrs, Teachers and Defenders of the Faith, Monks, and other Saints, and we DO NOT forget them in this way.

    In addition we KNOW as FACT, that they indeed can and WILL intercede for us, and therefore we ask them.

    However look at the western, watered down denominations, they have forgotten their own benefactors, they have forgotten who they were and what they were told by them. They have forgotten their example, and their lives.

    It is sad to see so many people in the west, who are called Anthony, or Nicolas, or Steven or Humphrey (Saint Onoufrios), Basil, Greg (Gregorius), Katherine, Anastasia, etc. etc. and at the same time, they have completely FORGOTTEN who these people they are named after were, and what their lives were.

    If nothing else, keeping an Icon of their Saints next to them, would remind them a bit of what REALLY matters in this life.

    I mean, it is really sad, people even think that “Santa Claus” — who is really Saint Nicolas — was. People are beginning to think that he is some kind of mythical creature…

    And even though they are central to the Scriptures, they have even forgotten the examples given to us by the lives of Mary the mother of God, Saint John, and so many other people that are mentioned in the Bible. And part of the reason for this, is the total removal of icons from their lives. And it was a removal, because at some point their ancestors were ALL Orthodox and as such, they would have some kind of Icon.

    Thus, one immediately can see that, to an Orthodox, it is natural not to shy away from “icons,” since whether we produce them or not, we will still be surrounded by them, and by this I mean our fellow brothers and sisters. True Saints cannot help but seeing the Christ’s image in all our brothers and sisters, however faded. Not an easy feat, I know.

    On the other hand, in the west we find many “Christians” who extravagantly worship Jews as at least “superior humans” and at most “God on earth” today, and no one of them notices that particular kind of idolatry.

    As far as requesting intercession from the Saints, this is totally Scripturally supported, and it is mentioned in Luke 16, which is another one of these passages that many shun away from, in case the truth gets out and they have to “revisit” their convictions:

    Luke 16: (KJV)

    23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

    24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

    25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

    Thus here we can see, that it is possible for the Saints to hear us ask them to intercede for us in heaven. But again, in Orthodoxy the Bible is not the beginning and end of everything.

    We have Holy Tradition, which as a whole (and not just the Bible) the Holy Spirit has granted us.

    The Bible is then part of this Holy Tradition, and thus as smaller part of a greater collection of experiences, it is not our only source of information. From this greater Holy Tradition, one can easily see the value of interceding by our Saints.

    It is a sad and great loss, in my opinion, to be oblivious to the Holy Tradition that brought forth the Bible.


  24. Bill Carson July 4, 2011 @ 3:38 pm

    You know, I have been holding back about talking about this, but I guess now is as good a time as any.

    Corruption in the Greek Orthodox Church.

    This is what happens when the state and the church cooperate in many ways.

    There is much discussion concerning a possible default by the Greek government on loans from the EU.

    One comment was made on Zerohedge by a Greek, living in Greece concerning the part played by the Greek Orthodox Church in this matter.

    ….The Greek Church has a ton of power in both indirect influence via their religious hold on people (think Catholic pressure on Irish/italian politicians) and direct influence via financial clout.

    For eg, the Church owns about 5% of the National Bank of Greece. In 2008 the Gov’t bought preference shares in all the major private banks to help prop them up following the Financial Crisis.

    One of the prefs covenant was no cash dividends were allowed by the banks until the prefs had been paid back.

    The Church agitated relentlessly that they deserved their cash dividend as a thanks for providing the Greeks with spiritual guidance (loose paraphrasing).

    All this whilst embroiled in the Vatopodi Scandal which saw them aquire about €1bn of state property for nothing from gov’t ministers (Michael Lewis Vanity Fair article has an excellent summary on it).

    The state pays all of the priests salaries & all other income they raise is tax-free & they have enormous land holdings (the entire 3rd peninsular of Chalkidiki is theirs – 336 square kms!!, they even forbid women entering).

    LA.O.S (Popular Orthodox Rally) is a rightwing political parliamentary party who support the Church & are indirectly supported by the Church (rumoured financially as well as with lobbying).

    As Greece is 90% homogenous, the Church can mobilise support for agendas which exclusively to gain some political power (dreams of the old Byzantium), protecting & growing their financial wealth & increasing their religious base.

    One of the main causes of retardedness in this country……

    And so we see. I figured they were involved in this conundrum. They are guilty of corruption and racketeering and extortion. This cannot stand.

    This sort of corruption, racketeering and extortion went on during the middle ages in Europe and this terrible yoke was broken by Martin Luther.

    Martin Luther, a man who had a Doctorate in Divinity, and was a Catholic Priest, after his disputation with the Catholic Church concerning indulgences etc, came to the realization that he was not saved.

    He then accepted Christ as his personal savior and was taken and baptized according to the Scriptures.

    Case in point. You can be very religious. You can wear priestly garments. You can know many things concerning liturgy and church history and traditions but in the end, you will die in your sins.

    The Bible is very clear on this. As the former tax collector said in Mathew 7:13:

    Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat.

    As the writer of Hebrews said in Hebrews 9:27:

    And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

    Do you think a Perfect God shall welcome these Greek crooks into His Kingdom, when they die, even though they are Priest and put on a good show in public?

    Jesus said something to some people one time about things such as this as recorded in the Book of Mathew 23:27:

    27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness.

    Some of this priestly class in my humble opinion is nothing less than a continuation of the Levitical Priesthood that was started during ancient Bible times.

    Nothing much has changed has it? The Priest get fat while the people suffer.

    Martin Luther almost single handedly broke the yoke on white western European men by starting the ball rolling on making the Biblical text available to all men and women to read and ponder for themselves.

    After centuries of religious imprisonment based upon Jewish inspired lies, men discovered the secrets of Christianity, that all men can be free of the Adamic curse by accepting God’s Precious Gift, Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior and through faith in Him, we also accept God’s Precious Grace extended to all men.

    God loves freedom and God loves liberty for He wants us all to be free to choose Him or refuse His Offer of Grace to us.

  25. Brother Nathanael July 4, 2011 @ 4:06 pm

    Dear Mr Carson –

    You LIKE Christ-Hating JEWS don’t you?

    Michael Lewis of Jew-owned Vanity Fair Magazine is a CHRIST-HATING JEW whom you just couldn’t any longer “hold back” on who wrote the SMEAR against my Priest friends of Vatopaidi.

    You LIKE ANTI-CHRIST JEW-ARTICLES put out by JEW-OWNED Vanity Fair Magazine OWNED by JEW Samuel Irving NEWHOUSE of Conde Nast Publications Don’t You?

    They purposely DOCTORED the picture of the Abbot to make him look like a crook.


    Go take your JEW LOVING COMMENTS somewhere else man.

    I know of Vatopaidi Monastery and the Abbot there and the JEWS of Vanity Fair ARE LYING about him and his fellow priests and monks.

    Vatopaidi has EVERY RIGHT to OWN THEIR **OWN** PROPERTY as do ALL THE MONASTERIES on MT Athos! IT’s AN INDEPENDENT JURISDICTION with headquarters of their OWN ADMINISTRATION on Karyes you idiot.

    Of course they BAN WOMEN there…(oh! You’re SO offended by this just like the Jews!)…it’s FOR MALE MONKS ONLY and HAS BEEN FOR 1000 years you JEW-LOVING dupe! You SWALLOW JEW LIES and try to VOMIT UP THEIR LIES HERE ON MY SITE? No more. You’re gonzo!

    You Mr Carson despise the Icons of Our Saviour and His Holy Mother and now I know why!

    Because you SWALLOW JEW LIES from JEW-OWNED and JEW-JOURNALISTS of Vanity Fair Magazine and POST THEM HERE on my SITE whom you know is AGAINST JEW SMEARS and is an Orthodox Christian with many ties to the Greek Orthodox Church and its priests and Abbots.

    Jews just LOVE TO SMEAR THE CHURCH and you FALL FOR IT. Don’t you DARE EVER print their JEW SMEARS here again with your “oh, I just couldn’t hold back” bs. And you WON’T! You’re gonzo…

    Now Go read your Jew Magazine and Eat Some Matzoh Balls.


  26. Stav July 4, 2011 @ 4:29 pm

    Dear Bill Carson,

    Nobody can expect to get the full truth about the Vatopaidi situation, from Vanity Fair. I mean you would not trust anything else from that kind of publication I hope, right?

    The real truth is that the whole thing was one of the multiple provocations, misinformation, and propaganda supported things that took place, in order for the current government to be voted in and start the current financial looting of Greece.

    The goal was to get the people away from a more right-wing mentality where Christianity is viewed at least a little bit more positively and get the people to vote these Satanic Atheists in so they could start destroying my country.

    As far as Church and State relations and your statement of the outcome of such an arrangement, let see, lets weigh in the results from both sides, shall we:

    The whole West, has separated Church from State. This may be stated on paper, or a de facto situation. It does not matter.

    The result? Complete and total corruption of the Christianity in favour of Atheism, which is really a form of Satanism, and materialism.

    Examples: Britain, where Christianity is a declining “religion.” People don’t even know or care what denomination they are. In Britain, church buildings are left empty, and people don’t even mind.

    Interestingly, the only Christian denomination on the rise in the UK is Orthodoxy, whether Russian, Greek or otherwise.

    USA, where Christianity is also declining and transformed slowly but surely, into a forbidden “ideology” with one of it’s “features” being passed as being an antisemetic “religion.” The time will come when the ADL will try to say that the Bible is anti-Semetic, wait for it…

    Thus, one may ask, is really the separation of Church and State better than non-separation? You be the judge. You cannot take one side without presenting the reality of the other side. And the reality is that the West, with it’s “modern” separation, has managed too, to destroy what little of the Faith was left.

    On the other hand, we have the greatest success, the greatest empire and power even to exists for nearly 1000 years, where the Church was an inseparable part of the state. No, it was not the USA, since the USA has been in existence for only roughly two centuries.

    No, it was the Byzantine Empire, which along with it’s errors and mistakes and sometimes questionable few events and leaders, has managed to establish Christianity in this world.

    So, perhaps it’s best to re-evaluate your opinion that separation of Church and State is a good thing.

    And one more thing. Separation of Church and State is not really what it sounds like… What it REALLY is, it is the binding of the SYNAGOGUE Of SATAN and State, instead of the Church… You really have to ask yourself, is there really a complete decoupling of religion from the state in your country? Or is it only Christianity that has been rooted out?

    You cannot have nothing. You always have to have something. If you are not bound with God formally and openly, then you are bound with the Devil if only implicitly.

    Thus any country or state that pretends to be “separate” from the Church, it is really and in actuality connecting and siding itself with SATAN… Face it, it is Scriptural, and even if it was not, it is plain logical.

    It’s so simple, there is no other way to look at it.

    So, let’s recap:

    Separation of Church and State is:

    1) Allegiance of the State to the Jew World Order.
    2) Allegiance to the Devil instead of God.
    3) Promoting the deterioration of the Church as only something peripheral to the people’s lives.

    Union of Church and State:

    1) Formal allegiance as a State to Christ.
    2) Formal renouncement as a State from the Devil and his works.
    3) Promoting the Church as something valuable and indeed CENTRAL to the people’s lives.

    As a Christian, I hope you agree that really, whether people agree to this or not, that it is very important for the State to act in accordance with the Christian faith, values and laws, right?

    And here is the cherry on the top:

    Without the Union of the State and Church, you would not even have your Bible that you like to quote to support your opinions…

    It’s even doubtful that you would even know Christianity of it was not for this glorious union of the Church and State I mentioned above. And since we are talking about the Church here, which is the Bride of Christ and His Body, it is a good idea to assume that He agreed with this union, right?

    Then again, there is the question, which Church exactly would be the one to be in union with the State, right? At least in Byzantium, there was only one kind. The right kind.

    My humble opinion is that perhaps you should check with history and facts before you try this again.


  27. Fr. John July 4, 2011 @ 4:46 pm

    The other comment about Dr. Martin Luther was that he was ‘baptized again.’ This is a Protestant lie.

    Luther AGONIZED over his baptism, because he was a catholic Christian, and KNEW that ‘baptism saves’ as the Scripture says.

    What he did was pray and ask God’s guidance, writing over and over again the phrase, ‘baptizatus sum ‘ (I have been baptized). And, just as within the Orthodox Church and her doctrine of acribea and economia, Luther did not seek to be ‘re-baptized.’

    Moreover, he called the Munzer Anabaptists, HERETICS (for they were!).

    Luther was orthodox enough to know the patristic belief that baptism, if administered correctly, is efficacious, especially when it comes to a vibrant living faith.

    Mr. Carson is spreading untruth, as well as rumors.

  28. Disgusted White Christian July 4, 2011 @ 4:58 pm

    Bro Nate,

    Let’s have the same consistency when they bash Catholicism.

    Many of the Orthodox on here, fall for the old Jew CATHOLIC myths (that Bill has been reading) and are more than HAPPY to post them here.

    To me, they are just as much “Christ-hating.”


  29. Disgusted White Christian July 4, 2011 @ 5:01 pm

    Post this with it: the spirit on the 4th of July we want for these Christ hating Jews.


  30. Stav July 4, 2011 @ 5:10 pm

    And Bill Carson

    Just so you and others, have the full picture…

    The Monastery of Vatopaidi was completely vindicated and all charges were dropped.

    The Xanthi court decided with decision No. 99100101 / 07.09.2009 and rejected the claim as inadmissible.

    In fact the transfers of land to the Government was characterized as BENEFICIAL to the State of Greece because it promoted the common usage of this land and it’s special status as a national natural asset.

    The acquired property of the Holy Monastery of the 8,600 acres of Ouranoupoli is either archaeological or forest area and is for all practical purposes a communal property because of the extensive and significant restrictions prescribed by Article 24 of the Constitution of Greece and relevant laws, therefore the land has low value and is practically non usable for commercial purposes and thus has little “business” value.

    This decision did thereby NOT void the swaps involving the exchange of properties that were initially presented via the Mass Media as some kind of scandal.

    In addition, some of the various journalists who propagated the situation as a scandal, especially those of the Alpha channel, were charged fines, for slander against various people. The fines were, by mandate, given to charities.

    The Church in Greece has given more than 95% of it’s property (given to the Church by the many benefactors over the years). That includes land and buildings that are used as Government buildings, Hospitals, etc. etc.

    As Said, before, the whole result of this fake “Scandal” was the implication of the then in government politicians even though the evidence was not even circumstantial, but nevertheless changed the popular opinion enough so that the next government was the one that we have now, commuting financial murder, pillage and rape of the whole country.


  31. Brother Nathanael July 4, 2011 @ 5:18 pm

    Dear DWC –

    First of all because you and I are good friends I will speak to you in a deferential manner yet I must refute your position.

    To compare our Orthodox rebuttals to Roman Catholic errors with JEW LIES on JEW OWNED VANITY FAIR is like comparing gold with rusted tin.

    We document historic and theological facts in a schorlaly manner in refuting religious error.

    But Carson vomited up an Anti-Monastic JEW-LYING PIECE and we have every right to call it like it is, JEW LIES.

    To call us Orthodox Christians “Christ-Hating” for correcting theological and eclessial error in the same vein as Carson posting CHRIST-HATING JEW Lying articles is absolutely unfounded if not utterly ridiculous.

    Again dear DWC, I value our long running friendship and your valuable contribution to this WIDELY READ Comments Section by tens of thousands of readers but I MUST draw the line of what you think Christ-Hating is.

    END OF THREAD — Please!

    +Brother Nathanael, Orthodox Christian Monastic

  32. Disgusted White Christian July 4, 2011 @ 6:02 pm

    Nate Please,

    I have seen countless diatribes by KJ that Padre Pio is probably a hoax? Same for the Shroud of Turin.

    Let me just say this, the reason you stated, about the women band on Mount Athos is not accurate.

    From what they sated, on “60 Minutes,” the Orthodox, spoke to BobSimon, it is out of RESPECT to Mary: Holy Theotokos.

    Also women had become a distraction (that would to men any place).

    Maybe I’ll refresh it, “Christ hating” may be harsh, but it is definitely “Catholic hating.”

    To hate anyone, or anything you don’t UNDERSTAND, to me is at least “ungodly?”

    Let’s leave it at that.


  33. "Zio-troll......etc July 4, 2011 @ 6:35 pm

    I hope this ridiculous discussion has not diverted people’s attention from the real issue which is the topic of the destruction of childrens minds which has been going on for 50 years.

    In the hope that the viewers may regain….” that which was lost. “

  34. "Zio-troll......etc July 4, 2011 @ 6:49 pm

    Ryder to Abortionists – “Not with our trucks!”

  35. "Zio-troll......etc July 4, 2011 @ 7:46 pm

    Instead of a useless discussion on the benefit of icons why not concentrate on turning the icons of evil to icons of good.

    Hence when you see a M at McDonald’s think of the Blessed Virgin.
    When you see the Masonic Statue of Liberty think of Our Lady.
    When you see a Domino’s sign think of the followers of St Dominic, the Dominicans.
    When you see a Pizza Hut think of that “hut” in the Piazza of Rome, the Vatican.
    When you see a Subway restaurant think of the Catacombs of the early Christians under Roman persecution.
    And when you see “IN GOD WE TRUST” on the dollar bill put your faith in God, and not the god they are referring to. (they= the Federal Reserve)

    In this way you will surround yourself with Christian icons and throw off the shackles of the world and you will never be defeated.

  36. "Zio-troll......etc July 4, 2011 @ 10:26 pm

    Americas” Skull and Bones” or “Brotherhood of Death” to give it its correct title, and how they have been successfully working towards bringing in their New World Order, in every structure and at every level of society, together with their English counterparts.

    First chapter free on above site 61pp. [top left]

    Does not mention its relationship to the Zionist Jews but we know that relationship exists though is still hidden beneath the concentric circles of the onion of secrecy and deception because this relationship as they have admitted themselves, ie the Zionists in their secret memoranda is Satan’s method of world conquest.

    These secret memoranda also say that if ever this relationship gets out into the general conciousness they will be defeated and they practise magic to ensure this does not happen.

    St Michael, expose them, defeat them, destroy them and free us from the tyranny of these evil doers.

  37. anon July 4, 2011 @ 10:34 pm

    Brother Nathanael Kapner,

    What exactly is the genetic/racial origins of Ashkenazim?

    They certainly don’t look like the Slavs with whom they lived amongst (and tormented) for many centuries.

    And they don’t seem to look Central Asian either (Khazar)? So what exactly are they?

    Are they simply depigmented Semites?

  38. Georgios July 5, 2011 @ 3:11 am

    Brother Nathanael please pray for your Greek Orthodox brothers. We have lost our sovereignity!

    Greek sovereignity to be massively limited: Juncker

    I dont know wether Juncker is a Jew or not, but Greece will never be again what it was!

    Soon the Jews will try to chip us with the mark 666, but as Saint Kosmas from Aetolia said, we need to keep only two: “CHRIST AND FAITH”

    Now we can truly say:

    Orthodoxy or death

  39. Brother Nathanael July 5, 2011 @ 5:31 am

    Dear Disgusted White Christian –

    No way. Nobody “hates” Catholics here. Again, your assertion is ridiculous and over the top.


  40. Brother Nathanael July 5, 2011 @ 6:08 am

    There will be NO discussion on Orthodox/Catholic arguments any longer on this RZN Comments Section.

    We do NOT want to play into the Jews’ hands by fostering acrimony between ourselves who have a COMMON INTEREST in STOPPING THE JEWS!

    Moderators Take Notice! AND I MEAN IT!

    +Brother Nathanael Kapner
    Owner, Real Zionist News

  41. Glory B. July 5, 2011 @ 6:56 am

    Brother Nathanael has often been a lonely voice crying in the wilderness showing the evil hand of Jewry that is the basic cause of the world economic crisis.

    On February 22, 2010, on his RZN website, Brother Nathanael wrote this:

    “JEWISH BANKERS ON WALL STREET in league with Zionist Jews operating within high levels of both the Greek government and the EU.

    “These money lords are using Greece as a “test case” in order to seize the sovereignty of EU members’ fiscal infrastructure — and replace it with a centralized monetary center in Brussels.

    “Using the manipulative tool of “Finance Capital” to exploit the troubled budgetary policies of Greece, recent news has revealed that the New York Jewish Investment firm, Goldman Sachs, engaged in a controversial “currency swap” with the Greek government in 2002 during Greek Prime Minister Constantine Simitis’ term as head of state.

    “Simitis, whose real name is Aaron Avouris, a Jew, was the key player along with Lucas Papademos, who was Governor of the Bank of Greece at the time and former senior economist of the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston, in brokering the deal with Goldman Sachs.”

    Here is the link:

    This is just one of many articles that Brother Nathanael has written proving that it is the Jews above all that are behind the financial scandals aimed at destroying White Christian civilization.

    It’s obvious that financial manipulation is part of parasitic Jewry’s evil plot to dominate the world, destroy Jesus Christ and His Church, and turn Christians into slaves to serve the yids.

    Whenever there is a dirty, double-dealing scheme to tear down Christ and impoverish Christians, you can be sure the Yids are behind it.

  42. Just a Goy July 5, 2011 @ 8:10 am


    July 4, 2011 @ 7:46 pm

    “Instead of a useless discussion on the benefit of icons why not concentrate on turning the icons of evil to icons of good.

    “Hence when you see a M at McDonald’s think of the Blessed Virgin.
    “When you see the Masonic Statue of Liberty think of Our Lady.
    “When you see a Domino’s sign think of the followers of St Dominic, the Dominicans.
    “When you see a Pizza Hut think of that “hut” in the Piazza of Rome, the Vatican.
    “When you see a Subway restaurant think of the Catacombs of the early Christians under Roman persecution.” — Zio-troll……etc


    No Thank You. NO False gods if you please. No corporatism to replace spirituality. NO replacing our religions with the religion of corporatism.

    McDonald’s for one promotes race mixing and homosexuality and so do most of the others.

  43. Stav July 5, 2011 @ 11:43 am


    A deposed and Greek dictatorial government which does not represent the people of this country, just passed a bill with which it intends to divest the Greek public property and land against the will of the vast majority of the people of Greece.

    We hereby inform those who are looking forward to this “investing” opportunity that we the people will soon overthrow this government, which will soon be held accountable for its crimes against the people and country. Their signatures and draft laws are void.

    They were NEVER ratified by the Greek people and we do NOT recognize them.

    We hereby warn any prospective investor to not even think of even getting close to an auction sale of public property or our land and much more we warn them not to buy. The people of Greece will regain the sovereignty of our country and any “investor” will lose the money involved in the illegal transaction and will not be returned.

    We hereby also warn that until the time comes to regain control of the country, in defense of our rights as derived from the Greek Constitution and the internationally recognized rights, we will still do whatever is necessary through our self-organization to cancel such transactions and to sabotage any such investment.

    So, let NOT ONE prospective investor DARE have their shopping convenience on the public property and land in Greece, unless they accept and understand the very high risk involved in this “investment”.

    In that case, the investment would “be welcome” in the country where when people are deprived of their Liberty, knows how to bring forth a Kanaris [1] or turn a bridge in Gorgopotamos [2] to rubble.

    The Popular Assembly of Syntagma Square 03/07/2011

    [1] 1795 -1877 a Greek Prime Minister, admiral and politician who in his youth was also a freedom fighter, pirate, privateer and merchantman.

    [2] The name of Gorgopotamos became famous during World War II, when 150 Greek partisans, following plans drawn by E. C. W. “Eddie” Myers and assisted by a group of British SOE officers, which included C.M. Woodhouse, blew up the railroad bridge on November 25, 1942 as part of “Operation Harling” and cut off the enemy-controlled route between Thessaloniki and Athens.[3]

    The blast ruined two of the six poles of the bridge. In an act of reprisals, the German occupation forces executed 16 Greek locals. The area around the bridge has been designated a national monument.

  44. +Fr. Joseph July 5, 2011 @ 11:47 am

    It may well be that the Monks and the Monasteries of the CHRISTIAN Church have long since forgotten that their ‘mission’ and their ‘vocation’ in the midst of our World and its current population of six billion human souls ALL created in the Image and Likeness of God Himself is to REMIND SIX BILLION PEOPLE that they are all, too, ‘MONASTICS’!

    And that every last man, woman and child has ALREADY BEEN ‘tonsured’ ( ) by the Creator and Author of Life into the RELIGIOUS and SPIRITUAL life – individually as well as communally – as a ‘MONK’!

    At the very moment of conception within our mother’s womb, ALL OF US were assigned our very first ‘Monastic Cell’ in which we all were given the peace, provision and serenity to simply receive and accept our very own God-given LIFE as either a male or female.

    ALL OF US are then born into this World as either a baby boy or baby girl – and we thus begin, in earnest, our MONASTIC religious and spiritual vocation or religious-spiritual “formation” so as to become equipped and adept in keeping this Global Monastery of our Planet Earth and all of our other ‘brother-sister’ Monastics, Monks and Nuns alive, vibrant, functioning and ministering, assisting one another in such a way so as to achieve the God-ordained Goal of LIVING OUR LIVES and living them TO THE FULLEST as human beings, spiritual sons and daughters of the SAME Divine Father Who lives and reigns upon His Throne in His Very Own Unseen Heavenly Paradise.

    Our Lord JESUS CHRIST Himself is our Divine Model, our Divine Example in His Own Divine ‘MONASTIC’ Spiritual Vocation and Life born into this ‘world’ just like you and I and every other human soul, we He acknowledges:

    “Foxes have dens and birds have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay His Head.” – Matthew 8:20 and Luke 9:58

    Nosirrebob! There ain’t going to be any ‘Utopia’ or any other sort of man-made ‘Happy-Happy Land’ with its ‘Happy-Happy Life’ here on our planet earth for six billion human souls all created in the Image and Likeness of God Himself Who just so happens to be our common Divine FATHER in Heaven until each and every last one of us MEANS the words of the Prayer,


    and each and every last one of us gets around TO DOING God’s Own Divine and All-holy Will here on earth throughout every last nation of people.

    Now with that having been said, the Divine religious-spiritual Provision for ANY INDIVIDUAL ‘MONASTIC’ to be granted God’s Own Divine Peace, Spirit, Life and Love hasn’t been stymied or render impossible to obtain for anyone on account of what these past generation of Lucifer-Satan ‘worshipers’ and ‘followers’ have done, are doing and will simply continue doing, especially since the beginning of the 20th century.

    So its now time to INTRODUCE six billion human beings on how they, too, can now begin to live their own personal ‘Monastic Life’ as their own personal ‘Monk’ or ‘Nun’…

    – +Fr. Joseph
    Archimandrite – Nazareth Hermitage – U.S.A. Inc.

  45. "Zio-troll......etc July 5, 2011 @ 3:28 pm

    Just a Goy.

    The point of my post was to REPLACE the worship of corporatism with worship of God by turning the icons of corporatism into icons of Christianity. Why can’t you see that?

    Americans have been so mind warped that they can no longer understand irony.

    An Australian who visited America told me exactly that, 20 something years ago. I since tested it and found it to be true, much to my shock.
    How much further are you now down the path of complete mental slavery in the year 2011?

    Even it it were the Jews as individuals who are enslaving you. What good does it do to rave about it here?

    It is a Jewish organizational agenda that you have to fight and you never talk about that.

  46. fed up human July 5, 2011 @ 8:16 pm

    I have become so disgusted with people today and their apathetic attitude to what is going on around them. They are living a waking nightmare but don’t realize it thanks to the mass conditioning and indoctrination by the media and government.

    The Jews continue to wield enormous control over our daily lives yet if one dares to even mention a Jew persons name or whisper their characteristics they are immediately branded a racist. What utter hypocrisy!

    What has RACE got to do with RELIGION ? “Antisemitism” is the typical and illogical knee-jerk reaction to anyone criticizing a Jew. Being a Christian, if someone criticizes me do I call them an “Antichrist” ? No I don’t. I don’t see a criticism as a racial attack, but rather, a difference of opinion.

    The human race has been controlled by these greedy psychopathic tribal gangsters for too long. Enough is enough. People need to wake up from their TV dinners and braindead TalmudVision shows and start being proactive. Their comfort zone is about to be shattered, if it hasn’t already.

    The only reasons the Jews have been successful in manipulating and controlling humanity is because most of the people in society are mindless idiots. They are clueless cattle who follow the “herd” mentality of doing what the other sheep do.

    There are MORE of US than THEM! We have the power of numbers on OUR side. If only a fraction of the mindless idiots with padlocked minds awakens from their hypnotic trance then changes will follow. It requires awareness and action.

    I’m doing my part to awaken others and thanks to Brother Nate and this site, more people can gain insight.

  47. Wallace July 5, 2011 @ 11:26 pm

    I invite Orthodox Christians in particular (and everyone) to check this site out, and this thread in particular.

    These people claim to be Orthodox Christians… but they seem to have a problem with Br. Nathanael.

    Mostly just wanted to give you Br. Nathanael a heads-up because one of these clowns (a Jew claiming to be Christian) seems to have a vendetta against you and says he’s going to make a stink about you with ROCOR and with CBS the footage from ’60 Minutes’ you’ve used for this video.

    Seems like many on the site are former Protestants – hence their strange love affair with the Pharisees and the ‘Jewish state’.

    God bless you and keep you Br. Nathanael!

  48. Kalif July 5, 2011 @ 11:30 pm

    ‘9/11: In Plane Sight’ – Director’s Cut of Documentary Film—directors-cut-of-documentary-film-.html

  49. michael July 5, 2011 @ 11:31 pm

    A singer I’ve admired and been blessed is John Michael Talbot. Somewhere after his conversion he became a monk..of some kind.

    I was raised in a Christian denomination that has priests and monks. I think John believed it was the best life style to concentrate on his calling of music and worship. It would not be the lifestyle for myself, but I enjoyed the departure from the usual and appreciate Br. Nathanael sharing his faith and experience from the monastery.

    Thank you!…and agree I would not trust VF reporting as balanced journalism. It is a distraction from more important things. I once was in a “prayer seminar” by an evangelical. Prayer was a major part of his life for years. He was taken aback one day when a friend gave him tape of Bishop Fulton Sheen. I think I can comment freely for I was raised Catholic, but no longer am and I am a born again believer.

    A major part of the teaching shared was about this Bishop’s prayer life. There is no question he had a deep love and relationship with Jesus Christ. I think there are things we can learn from each other.

    As this protestant minister listened and learned from the tape from a Catholic, the Lord impressed him that “it was the Blood of Christ that cleanses — nothing else”…one of the greatest Christian experiences were the letters of Br. Lawrence known as “The Practice of the Presence of God,” interestingly it was Protestants more than Catholics that latched onto and promoted it.

    The incredible writings on prayer of Jeane Guyon were rounded up and burned by village priests and she later imprisoned in the Bastille..why?

    Just the devil working through men who really did not know Him. We need to be aware of the wiles of the enemy, and anyone who loves Jesus Christ is not the enemy.

    Recently a friend was touting support for Jews and all things Jewish because of the verse “to the Jew first” regarding the preaching of the Gospel.

    I think it is more likely the Lord’s recognition of the peculiar affinity many Jews have, that in rejecting Jesus they have become particular agents of the devils means to oppose all that Christianity stands for, but God is still interested in saving those that believe. Paul got fed up, “Your blood be upon your own head, from henceforth I go to the Gentiles…”

    Islam does not have a true revelation of God or who Jesus really is. But they do not seem to exhibit pure hatred that seems to emanate from Jewish doctrine like the Talmud, and the recent video of an Israeli children’s TV program “Toffee and the Guirrilla” (I think) on Youtube. Nor on the scale they do through media talents etc.

    I find this very curious..why the Jew hates Jesus? Jesus said it so well, “They hated me without a cause”

    Blessings Br. Nathanael


  50. kmarie July 5, 2011 @ 11:32 pm

    The Jesus Prayer is an interesting aspect of our Christian heritage and culture. Decidedly non-Jewish!

  51. Brother Nathanael July 6, 2011 @ 3:32 am

    Dear Wallace –

    It seems that I inspire in people both great love and great hatred including so-called Orthodox Christians.

    St Paul, (though I do not dare compare myself with him), often stated that his enemies were “from within.”

    As regards my using the 60 Minute Clips there are tons of clips from 60 Minutes up on YouTube and the “fair use” rule comes into play so I doubt that I will have any problems. YouTube has already offered me “revenue sharing” on this Video so they are well aware of my using the 60 Minutes Clips as are all my viewers.

    If this so-called Orthodox Christian wishes to take this Video down then it will be on that person’s head as many have already inquired of me by email expressing keen interest in Orthodoxy and Orthodox monasticism. It would be on that person’s head that many who would write to me in the future would be denied this venue that gives exposure to Orthodoxy. I pity this person if that does happen.

    As regards my standing in ROCOR I am a member in good standing of the ROCOR parish in Manhattan, the Cathedral, “Our Lady Of The Sign,” so I doubt that this nasty person will have any luck there in defaming me. Last week I was in Church with Metropolitan Hilarion and Bishop Jerome and took Holy Communion receiving as: “Brother Nathanael” partakes of the Holy Mysteries…

    +Brother Nathanael
    Orthodox Christian Monastic

  52. Georgios July 6, 2011 @ 5:36 am

    What a monk from the Esfigmenou Monastery on the Mount Athos said to me before some years:

    The Jesus Christ prayer is the SUMMARY of the whole Bible.

    The first desert fathers prayed the WHOLE prayer, it was this: “Lord our Jesus Christ, Son and Logos of the God, have mercy on me (eleison me) and forgive me the sinner.” Now we became too lazy to say it all, and some just say “Kyrie eleison” without to know, who this Kyrios is.

    In naming both Jesus AND Christ, we confess the two natures (physis) of the incarnated Son. We confess that God was incarnated.

    Naming Son of God, we can do it (according the Holy Scriptures) only with the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. That means in this way we confess the Holy Trinity too! Eleison (mercy) means that He is God, then only God can give us mercy. And forgiveness is only from God too.

    The prayer is not to compare with buddistic mantras, like some “Christian” protestants mention in their books.

    The prayer is a gift, not everyone can have it. The Holy Spirit comes with gifts, according to the Holy Scriptures, but not everyone gets the same gifts.

    It is not easy to pray it because IT BURNS the DEVIL!

  53. Georgios July 6, 2011 @ 5:56 am

    About the forum Wallace mentioned, I spend not much time to understand that it may be a Uniate (Catholics who pretend to be Orthodox) Forum, in which Orthodox users are banned!

    For example the forum users agrees that Christ founded the Church on Peter and they claim that even all the Orthodox Patriarch and Church Fathers did it too.

    As soon as a user “TomS” said “The short answer is that he was not referring to Peter the man, but to Peter’s statement of faith: “Thou art the Christ”” HE WAS BANNED!


  54. Georgios July 6, 2011 @ 5:58 am,2188.0.html

    Here is the discussion about the papal Supremacy!!!

  55. Stav July 6, 2011 @ 9:16 am

    Hi All,

    I am not sure I like that forum either. A lot that is posted there is indeed fishy.

    There’s also a lot of people nicknamed “Byzantine Christian” etc. which to people in the know refers to “Byzantine Catholic” which is really a masqueraded type of Catholic Papism, aka Uniates, which is a disgrace. (And please, I am not going to respond to anyone trying to defend or comment on this post because I mentioned the word “Papism,” this post is about something completely different)

    Things mentioned on that site page that I did not like, are for example that:

    1) Not all Jews are Zionists.

    Well, a Jew is primarily someone who identifies themselves with Judaism. If they are not, then regardless of their racial origin, they are no longer Jews. Not in the full sense of the word anyway.

    People who identify themselves with Judaism are — necessarily — Zionists. There is no other way about it. Whether they know it or not. How much more simply can I put it, they expect the Anti-Christ to rule all of us from Jerusalem (Zion). They may hide it, avoid it, try to forget it, but it’s there, and therefore they are Zionist.

    2) That Br. Nathanael was doing something inappropriate for an Orthodox.

    That’s plain nonsense. He is doing what most of us are too afraid to do, and that is get out and tell the truth!!!

    Many of our Saints have done this and it is therefore that they are now Saints. Indeed, many Saints have done far more shocking things than the things that Br. Nathanael has done. (and really, getting out and holding the Cross and some signs and trying to get people’s attention is not that extreme anyway).

    In addition, ALL that Br. Nathanael writes here is TRUTH, as it is supported by irrefutable facts.

    Any Christian, who sits there in their comfortable chairs reading this, must try to put themselves in the shoes of someone like Br Nathanael. And then think again, if they would be able to leave the traditions they were raised in, be denied by friends and family and having to deal with huge temptations, fuelled by emotional blackmail and pressures and doubts, even if momentarily…

    Would any of us, really, REALLY be prepared to do the same for the Truth Who is Jesus Christ?

    On the other hand, it’s easy to judge from a position of “safety”. But in reality NO ONE is safe in their convictions, even if the convictions are 100% right, we are STILL to make them a reality with our actions. An example of this, is Br. Nathanael.

    I say BRAVO Br. Nathanael, PLEASE continue what you do for your Country and by extensions for the Whole World!!!


  56. Brother Nathanael July 6, 2011 @ 9:46 am

    @Georgios & Stav,

    Regardless if the forum is “fishy” or not, the person who wishes to destroy my Video Venue through “legal” means claims to be with ROCOR my Orthodox Church.

    This could spell trouble for me and all of my hard work for the entire year could go down the drain in an instant from this nasty, mean-spirited so-called “Orthodox Christian” who STILL is a Jew at heart who calls me an “anti Semite.”

    DO PLEASE Keep me in your prayers that Christ and His Holy Mother and All the Saints will PROTECT my Videos from the vicious intents of this nasty person. +BN

  57. Stav July 6, 2011 @ 11:29 am

    I will keep you in my prayers Br Nathanael!

    About that forum, I am not sure who owns it or anything, but I do think that some of the guests there are not what they seem to be.

    I sure do hope everything goes well with everything!

    May be it’s time to copy your videos to other places, other than “yewtube”?

    I am sure you have thought about it already, but since they can take them away, may be it’s a good idea. Although I don’t know what other website is better than them. I did not realize that you were under such an attack…


  58. Brother Nathanael July 6, 2011 @ 12:53 pm

    @Stav –

    All my Vids are on two other venues just in case…+bn

  59. "Zio-troll......etc July 6, 2011 @ 2:46 pm

    “Fair Use Notice: This video may contain copyrighted material the use of which may not always have been specifically authorized by the copyright owner.

    “We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of political, human, religious, and social issues. We believe this constitutes a ‘fair use’ of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law.”

    Br Nathanael, you simply need to attach the above to your vids, in the section below it where people usually give a brief synopsis of it. You need to add this to all the ones that contain copyrighted material before a complaint is made to youtube.

  60. Brother Nathanael July 6, 2011 @ 4:22 pm

    @Ziotroll –

    Thanks for the suggest. YouTube is already quite aware of “fair use” — especially when excerpts are used from YouTube. +bn

  61. Disgusted White Christian July 6, 2011 @ 5:28 pm

    For our Orthodox Greek brethren:

    Just a quick one for now: A flotilla of 11 ships destined bring humanitarian aid to Palestinian Gaza were detained by the broke government of Greece on the orders of USrael. Two ships even incurred propeller shaft damage, undoubtedly by Israeli commandos.

    Can you believe this crap? Meanwhile the Greek government, corrupted and controlled by international debt, joyfully announced closer ties to Israel. Surprise, surprise.

    Imagine for one second if any other nation did such a thing. The US media has kept completely silent, instead filling the time non-stop with coverage on that WHITE Casey Anthony murder trial and the usual, never-ending Islamaphobia stories.

    How much more GD proof do you need to understand how Jew-controlled “our” media truly is? Just think about it.


  62. Georgios July 6, 2011 @ 6:40 pm


    The Prime Minister of Greece Jeffrey Papandreou is an American Jew, born in Minnesota by the Jewess Margaret Chad.

    His father Andreas Papandreou had a Polish-Jewish mother called Sophia Mineyko.

    Greece is a Jewish occupied area since 1492 when they came from whole of Europe, mainly to Salonica, the Jerusalem of the Balkans, where the cabalistic Sabateans started destroying the whole world.

    Even Rothschild is a Sabatean. (Sabetai Zwi was a Satanist Jew who in 1666 claimed to be the Messias, and his followers today rule the whole world)

  63. Words of Wisdom July 6, 2011 @ 8:15 pm

    I read the entire 3 page thread on that website and it saddened me for a couple of reasons:

    1) If this small sample of Orthodox Christians reflect the view of all of Orthodoxy, then they DO NOT understand that Jews have become the enemy of God. Only a few good people on that site stuck up for Br. Nathanael.

    2) This guy “Marc” who later claims to be a Jew who converted to Orthodoxy really has it out for Br. Nathanael. He is proof of someone who converted to Christianity but still retains his “Jewish” identity.

    He is using his “status” as an Orthodox Christian and “connections” within the church to wage war against Br. Nathanael. This guy “Marc” is a false Christian, regardless if he was baptised.

    3) These Jews are everywhere. Yes, we knew they were in the Roman Catholic Church but they are in the Orthodox Church as well.

    God bless you and keep up the good fight!

  64. Stav July 7, 2011 @ 2:31 am

    Dear Words of “Wisdom”

    That forum is a free and open platform for people to post whatever they like.

    Just as Georgios I too, find a lot of what is posted there, at least questionable.

    There is no doubt in my mind that a lot of these people that profess to be Orthodox or even Christians are not what they seem to be.

    In addition, there are multiple places, where members of the Roman religious community (posing as Byzantine Catholics which is really the Uniate church which is a massive disgrace) are also causing issues with the age old issues between the OC and the RC by putting questions as if they are just seekers.

    From the short time I spent reading the stuff there, it seems like a chaotic place with lots of conflicting opinions posted from every category of people and ideologies.

    There are certainly Orthodox people posting there, but there are most certainly a lot of other people there who’s motives are clearly not benign.

    As mentioned here before, most practising Orthodox, are not only well aware of the JWO, but they are very well informed on the core issues.

    Greece is just about the only European country where the truth can still be told on the Mass Media about the Jews, masons and the new world order, even though there is fierce resistance from the regime here.


  65. Kalif July 7, 2011 @ 3:45 am

    David Jeremiah, “The Coming Economic Armageddon: What Bible Prophecy Warns about the New Global Economy”
    Publisher: FaithWords | ISBN 10: 0446565946 | 2010 | PDF | 320 pages | 15 MB

    Never before have we read such jarring headlines, distressing news analyses, or dire predictions concerning the world’s financial future. The American housing market — or, more sentimentally, the American dream — began to collapse in 2006, taking with it large chunks of the global financial system. Millions of jobs worldwide have vanished forever.

    Did Bible prophecy predict this catastrophe? Are there biblical clues to how soon, if ever, a viable, long-term recovery can be sustained?

    Is the financial collapse just one of several signs that we are living in the final days of Earth’s history In THE COMING ECONOMIC ARMAGEDDON, David Jeremiah says we can know the meaning behind what we see in the daily news — and understand and prepare for living in the New Global Economy.

  66. Kalif July 7, 2011 @ 3:46 am

    The Creature from Jekyll Island: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve By G. Edward Griffin
    Publisher: American Media 1998 | 608 Pages | ISBN: 0912986212 , 0912986182 | PDF | 42 MB

    Where does money come from? Where does it go? Who makes it? The money magicians’ secrets are unveiled. We get a close look at their mirrors and smoke machines, their pulleys, cogs, and wheels that create the grand illusion called money. A dry and boring subject? Just wait!

    You’ll be hooked in five minutes. Reads like a detective story – which it really is. But it’s all true. This book is about the most blatant scam of all history. It’s all here: the cause of wars, boom-bust cycles, inflation, depression, prosperity.

    Creature from Jekyll Island is a “must read.” Your world view will definitely change. You’ll never trust a politician again – or a banker.

  67. Kalif July 7, 2011 @ 3:48 am

    John Ankerberg, Jimmy DeYoung, Dillon Burroughs, “Israel Under Fire: The Prophetic Chain of Events That Threatens the Middle East”
    Publisher: Harvest House Publishers | ISBN 10: 0736925848 | 2009 | PDF | 224 pages | 14.3 MB

    Israel Under Fire has the key ingredients for readers who track today’s news, scriptural predictions, and Israel:

    * Penetrating evaluation of Middle East events
    * Expert understanding of Bible prophecy and end-times happenings
    * Incisive Q-and-A with religious and political leaders such as Benjamin Netanyahu, former Israeli prime minister; Moshe Arens, three-time Israeli defense minister; and Adnan Husseini, Yasser Arafat’s cousin and Palestinian Authority spokesman

    Ankerberg and DeYoung, co-host of Day of Discovery and noted prophecy expert, examine signs that point—now—toward apocalyptic conflict:

    * Temple rebuilding: Jewish religious leaders plan it on a site still controlled by Islam.
    * Threats to Israel: internally, a burgeoning Arab population; externally, instability from the Palestinians’ Hamas–Fatah split.
    * Iran’s intentions: to “wipe Israel off the map”…possibly utilizing nuclear weapons.

    Readers will gain unparalleled insight into the massive historical currents converging on Israel…and promising to generate inescapable consequences for the West.


  68. Georgios July 7, 2011 @ 5:51 am

    @Words of Wisdom

    I can go to any bookstore in any city of Greece today and buy the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion,” what I doubt if you can do the same in US.

    As pupils (some time ago) our teachers told us very often to buy and read this book.

    PS: Jews throw stones only against trees which make fruits.


    God Bless our Orthodox Brother Nathanael who has now the prayers of many monks of the Esfigmenou Monastery on Athos!

  69. Kalif July 7, 2011 @ 5:58 am

    July 3, 2011 at 09:17 (Associate Post, Egypt, Hasbara, Israel, Middle East)

    Just imagine if control over Israel’s nuclear arsenal is passed to Talmudic, religious fanatics, Dov Lior, Ovadia Yosef or other Talmudic sages who believe that annihilating a million or two million non-Jews shouldn’t raise any eyebrows since non-Jews are effectively animals walking on two legs according to some influential rabbinic authorities.

    Egypt must possess credible strategic deterrent against Israel.

  70. Kalif July 7, 2011 @ 6:41 am

    Michael Welch – Scapegoats of September 11th: Hate crimes & state crimes in the war on terror
    Publisher: Rutgеrs Univеrsity Prеss | 2006-11-09 | ISBN: 0813538955 | PDF | 238 pages | 1.07 MB

    From its largest cities to deep within its heartland, from its heavily trafficked airways to its meandering country byways, America has become a nation racked by anxiety about terrorism and national security.

    In response to the fears prompted by the tragedy of September 11th, the country has changed in countless ways. Airline security has tightened, mail service is closely examined, and restrictions on civil liberties are more readily imposed by the government and accepted by a wary public.

    The altered American landscape, however, includes more than security measures and ID cards. The country’s desperate quest for security is visible in many less obvious, yet more insidious ways.

    In Scapegoats of September 11th, criminologist Michael Welch argues that the “war on terror” is a political charade that delivers illusory comfort, stokes fear, and produces scapegoats used as emotional relief. Regrettably, much of the outrage that resulted from September 11th has been targeted at those not involved in the attacks on the Pentagon or the Twin Towers.

    As this book explains, those people have become the scapegoats of September 11th. Welch takes on the uneasy task of sorting out the various manifestations of displaced aggression, most notably the hate crimes and state crimes that have become embarrassing hallmarks both at home and abroad.

  71. Vox July 7, 2011 @ 6:52 am


    FYI: Incog Man turned off my microphone yet he is letting JewLee Anne Lee begin his Jewish information gathering acting as if he/she is a “Good Ole Boy” :

    “We should all be uniting through Twitter and Facebook (Jewish tools) (so we can track your movements)”

    Next comes:

    “What kind of weaponry y’all got?” “Where do you keep it?” “Where y’all from?” “We should really get together at (location where FBI/DHS can round them up as domestic enemies).”

    Make no mistake that JL is a Jewish tool pretending to be a friendly.

  72. Snowy Smith July 7, 2011 @ 7:36 am

    Georgios — “I can go to any bookstore in any city of Greece today and buy the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion,” what I doubt if you can do the same in US.”

    “Protocols of the Elders of Zion” – I will E MAIL it to YOU world wide.

    My E Mail:
    faircivillaw AT

    On the front line for FREEDOM and LIBERTY,
    Our fight is against LUCIFER the Antichrist,
    Our fight is against the 666 occult and TYRANNY.

    On the front line for FREEDOM and LIBERTY:

    1. OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST plus every Christian World Wide.
    2. Alex Jones:
    3. The Oathkeepers:
    4. Real Jew News:
    5. DHS/TSA Watch:
    6. Police State 21:
    7. The Power Hour:
    8. Radio Liberty:
    9. Liberty Guard;
    10. We Won’t Fly:
    11. PapersPlease:
    12. We are change Colorado:
    13. Call to decision:

  73. Kalif July 7, 2011 @ 9:04 am

    “We have let one man have far too great a sway over our national life,” Labour lawmaker Chris Bryant told Parliament in London in an emergency debate yesterday.

    “Murdoch is not resident here, does not pay tax here. No other country would allow one man to garner four national newspapers, the second largest broadcaster, a monopoly on sports rights and first-view movies.”

    Read more:

  74. Words of Wisdom July 7, 2011 @ 12:55 pm


    The people you are having a problem with are White Supremacists who are either atheists or adherents to British Israelism/Christian Identity.

    As the great William Cooper used to say, these are not people that you want to get involved with.

    I don’t know what faith Incogman belongs to if any, but I feel that his moderation at HIS site is fair.

    We have a lot more in common with the people at RZN. We also need to find a way where like-minded “Jew-aware” Catholics can discuss anything without interfering with the legitimate agenda of its website owners.

  75. Disgusted White Christian July 7, 2011 @ 3:01 pm

    Former white supremacist David Duke goes “anti-semitic” at Thom Hartmann

    Look at this shill, worm, he can’t even look at Duke when he talks to him?

    This piece of garbage is your typical talking head, that just reads from the Zionist Q-cards!

    WOW: I concur, that site is a lot of White supremest that are made up of AmeriKwan knuckleheads, that are EXACTLY what Jews look for, constant “I hate, Blacks, Jews, Hispanics, and they all need to be shot.”

    The Jews are smiling right now — “See all White Christians are racists.”


  76. Vox July 7, 2011 @ 3:25 pm


    There does not seem to be a site for Catholics to discuss our faith whilst fighting against the Jews.

    Most of the sites are comprised of anti-Catholics that claim to be White supremacists but are actually just cowardly Whites that don’t do anything except complain.

    Incogman is yet another of those sites. It’s not especially anti-Catholic or anti-Christian as VNN is but nonetheless it’s just cowardly Whites. His moderation seemed fair but now he’s allowing Jewish moles to do their work. He’s not as aware as he claims to be.

    I’m not up for the standard IP harvest like you see at sites like Stormfront or VNNForum. Where the owners are turning over the list of site visitor IPs to the Feds in order to keep their sites online.

    Perhaps Incogman already is, if not he will most likely in the future to avoid prosecution and shutdown of his site. That’s why those type of bloggers and sites do have to be avoided. There is not the type of unity they think they have or discuss.

  77. Vox July 7, 2011 @ 3:30 pm


    Perhaps DWC, yourself and I should either find a Catholic forum or create one.

    Catholics are true Christians and as such we should not really mix in with the Evangelicals and Protestants. The fake Christians are not even “good people” let alone “good Christians”.

    I have to sow diviseness but Catholics never start it but always bare the brunt of it. Like DWC tried to clarify on here about how we don’t pray to statues and don’t see Mary as God but as a mediator etc. But it all went over the people here heads and they still believe what the want to believe.

  78. Disgusted White Christian July 7, 2011 @ 3:50 pm


    ICM says you can come out of Spamblinka if you don’t insult no more Italians and other Whites?


  79. Lilly West July 7, 2011 @ 4:56 pm

    Does anyone know if Cheney Mason the lawyer is a “Jew”?

  80. Vox July 7, 2011 @ 5:16 pm


    Aint happening. I told him off.

    Same old empty feeling over there. Just a bunch of dumb Whites complaining is all it is.

    Now I know you might say “But Vox, these are your White Brethren.”

    Ummmmm…… No, they’re not. They’re just a collection of dumb Whites, Jewish moles and assorted dumplings.

  81. KathJuliane July 7, 2011 @ 6:49 pm

    Homily — “Brethren, Ye Have Been Called Unto Liberty” (Galatians 5:13)

    The basic aspect of the material, physical world is its obedience to the law of causal necessity. Its essence lies in the fact that every action has an external cause, that is, if a stone flies through the air, it did not launch itself, but was thrown by an external agent.

    Every day, the Sun rises, and every day is replaced by night, night by day; each day is filled with activities, and these arise one after another; every day, a person needs to go to work, and so forth.

    Everything proceeds in a seemingly unavoidable stream of causal necessity; meanwhile many say: “What can I do? I would like to go to church more often, but I have no time; I would pray regularly to God, but again, I have little time.” Thus it is for people who have joined this physical current of causal necessity.

    We have become accustomed to the law of causal necessity and often refer to it for self-justification, even when there is no need. The first one to show us this poor example was our ancestor, Adam, who committed sin by violating the commandment of the Lord.

    When the Lord reproached him, yet gave him the opportunity to repent, he did not deem himself guilty, but immediately referred to the law of causal necessity: “The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.”

    In this way we often emulate Adam; instead of admitting our guilt, we seek it to find it outside of ourselves: this happened to me because of this, or that, or for some other reason.

    But man does not consist solely of a body, but of a soul, which has a spiritual foundation. One of the phenomena of the existence of the spirit is freedom. The spirit exists outside of the law of causal necessity. It is this spiritual freedom to which Holy Apostle Paul calls us:

    “For brethren, ye have been called unto liberty” (Galatians 5:13).

    This is why we must rise above this causal law of nature and moreover, resist it. Of course, we cannot change the course of the Sun, we cannot forbid the snow or the rain from falling, but this is not necessary, because the motions of nature are neutral to evil.

    But there is another chain of causes, that which draws us into sin.

    Within this causal chain are our passions, which draw us into this inescapable fleshly current.

    Man must resist this causal dependence, and this is the only path to spiritual freedom, and only in spiritual freedom can we experience Divine bliss and blessedness from contact with God.

    We live within time and we must exploit it as much as we can for our salvation.

    The future has no power over us, since it is unknown to us. When it becomes known, it moves to the category of the present.

    The present stands before us and demands that we make decisions. Our challenge is to act in order that it work for good and for the salvation of our soul.

    The past moves into the region of necessity: what has transpired, we cannot change, we cannot erase, and when the past is filled with sins, it serves as a special burden on the soul, and often determines the behavior of the person in the future.

    We cannot alter the past—that is a law of time. But the law of time is a physical law, while the spirit, as we said, does not submit to it, so in the spiritual plane, we can change the past.

    The Lord gives us this opportunity -— the overcoming of the past, or better yet, the elimination of it — this occurs in the mystery of repentance. The mystery of repentance erases sins, and in this way, eliminates the occurrence of what is past.

    Earnest repentance severs the chain of sin which binds the past with the future, emancipating man from the burden of the past and grants him the opportunity to follow the path of virtue.

    A miracle is the supreme manifestation of the victory of the spirit over physical causal necessity. And our Lord Jesus Christ showed us an example of this: He walked upon water, He healed the sick, He resurrected the dead. The mystery of repentance belongs to the class of such miracles, and the Lord grants this opportunity to each person.

    “Brethren, ye have been called unto liberty.” And so let us resist the sinful causal chain, severing it through repentance and through virtue partaking of spiritual freedom, and then Divine grace will perform in us another miracle — the salvation of our soul. Amen.”
    — Archbishop Alypy of Chicago And Mid-America (ROCOR)

  82. Disgusted White Christian July 7, 2011 @ 7:18 pm

    Vox, WOW,

    I don’t have to start anything, I have given amble support to him in here, in his crusade.

    People from now on will stay on Zionism, he post anymore of Father’s Joseph’s Dogma diatribes, he can $help from him, that guy isn’t trying to glorify God, or Jesus, with his Catholic dogma sh_t all the time, BUT TO GLORIFY HIMSELF: SHOW US ALL WHAT A RELIGIOUS SCHOLAR HE IS, and how brilliant he is, he doesn’t fool me for a second, with all that crying.

    Anyone starts in with any “Catholic” or “Orthodox” criticizing, the post should not go through!

    We are here to post on Zionist hegemony!

    You know I am almost 50, but I am 5-11, a tight 35 inch waist, at 225 like NFL safety size, I work out hour 3 times a week, heavy weight, man these people like Julian over there, I wish I could see them on the street, for two seconds.

    I know they are either old fat couch potatoes, or little punks, so they have to play “Johnny tough guy” over there, I am sick of that too.


  83. Andrew July 7, 2011 @ 7:18 pm

    “I have to sow diviseness but Catholics never start it but always bare the brunt of it.”

    Tell that to all the people they burned at the stake.

  84. Disgusted White Christian July 7, 2011 @ 7:33 pm

    European Campaign to End the Siege on Gaza Confirms that the French Ship “Dignity” has Set Sail

    Brussells – PNN – The European Campaign to End the Siege on Gaza (ECESG) confirmed on Tuesday that the French ship “Dignity,” which is part of Freedom Flotilla II, has in fact set sail to the besieged Gaza Strip while the rest of the flotilla ships remain trapped in Athens, banned from sailing.

    In a press release issued today, Rami Abdo, spokesman for ECESG, said that the French Ship “Dignity,” or “Karama” in Arabic, has left the French port of Corscica and is now in international waters sailing to the Gaza Strip.

    “Dignity” has six crew members and is carrying aid supplies to Gaza. The ship was forbidden from leaving in the past few weeks after a campaign by pro-Israeli groups in France was launched against it. ECESG considers the launch of the ship to be a victory over the pro-Israeli campaign.

    The vessel’s passengers include Olivier Besancenot, head of the New Left Party in France, French politician and member of the European Parliament Nicole Kiil-Nilsen, and other well-known French personalities.

    While “Dignity” is at sail, at least eight ships of Freedom Flotilla II are still stuck in Athens as the Greek government has succumbed to Israeli and US pressure to ban them from sailing.

    Moreover, while docked in Athens, two ships of the Flotilla were sabotaged by unknown divers. Flotilla organizers blamed the Israeli navy for the attacks.


  85. arjan July 7, 2011 @ 8:00 pm

    Lord have mercy, that was a great video, thank you Brother Nathanael.

    Keep up the good work! You have a lot more to do.

  86. RickB July 7, 2011 @ 8:01 pm

    Thanks Brother Nathanael.

    Thanks for introducing me to the Jesus Prayer. I’ll make it my mantra for the immediate future. Say a prayer for me please.

  87. Vox July 7, 2011 @ 8:37 pm

    DWC, WOW

    If you still want to post here, cool but I say we should find a forum for ourselves where we feel welcome. I’m tired of being flailed over the head for being Catholic. I’m tired of the protestants and evangelicals and their self-righteousness as they do the work of the devil.

    They believe that all they have to do is say they’re saved and then they are. Then they can sin all they want because they’re already saved. It’s complete nonsense for any Christian to profess that.

    As far as the White forums go, I’m sick and tired of none of them wanting to slip away from their Talmudvision’s long enough to do something to same themselves or their families, their country, their way of life, their morality…….

    They never want to get politically or socially active. All they do is sit around and praise Hitler and complain. Like I said over at IC, the Nazis are gone. Their plan was a failure. Why keep beating on something that didn’t work?

  88. Wallace July 7, 2011 @ 9:40 pm

    Br. Nathanael,

    I’m not worried… that ratfaced Jew loser over there won’t get anywhere with his empty threats. I just thought you should know about it.

    I was sort of hoping Georgios, Stav and others would join up and come to your defense there (hint, hint).

    Vox, DWC, etc:

    I said that Incog was just another Hal Turner long ago, and I caught flak for it.

    Bunch of cowards sitting at a computer calling for killing… Definitely a setup IMO, and even if it isn’t – we shouldn’t keep company like that.

    They’ll only bring us down with them.

    Just why do you all think he calls himself INCOGMAN?


    adv or adj

    \ˌin-ˌkäg-ˈnē-(ˌ)tō also in-ˈkäg-nə-ˌtō\

    Definition of INCOGNITO: with one’s identity concealed

  89. zoltan July 7, 2011 @ 9:47 pm

    Jew here, Catholic there, Muslim under the bed.

    When we as a human race understand the words of Jesus from Revelation 22-16: ‘I am the root and offspring of David, and the bright and morning star’ — Jews, Catholics, Muslims will disappear.

    As for now, for the few of us who know…is a lonely wait.

  90. Words of Wisdom July 7, 2011 @ 10:10 pm


    Hey, you didn’t happen to find the continuum transfunctioner?

    ZOLTAN! *makes the hand sign*


  91. GeorgiosJ July 8, 2011 @ 12:07 am


    Do you think they will accept an Orthodox Greek right now to be registered in their forum?

    Try it! you will wait until the doomsday since these crypto-Jews read daily RZN.

    Don’t underestimate us, we know more than you can imagine.

  92. Brother Nathanael July 8, 2011 @ 12:21 am

    @Vox –

    Please don’t do a ‘cry baby’ with me.

    You know DARN WELL that Catholics and ALL are welcome here.

    I really don’t like you using my forum to slam me and trying to start another one ’cause “you don’t like me.” +bn

  93. Georgios July 8, 2011 @ 12:24 am

    Dear RZN Family

    Although born a Greek I soon understand I had to learn deeply the Greek language, in order to understand the Words of Christ. I am the Alpha and the Omega made me to understand that only in Greek you can understand DEEPLY the Evangelion.

    Before Jesus died on Cross he said in GREEK: TETELESTAI.

    The Sunday prayer is only to be understand in Greek. You say eg. “give us today our daily bread”. So you understand the Evangelion (Gospel)?

    Jesus Christ told us to pray: “Our FUTURE, ETERNAL bread (the body of Jesus Christ) give us TODAY, NOW at this very moment. The Greek word epiousios means eternal, not “of today.” And the Eternal Artos (bread) is the body of Christ in the Holy Communion.

    In Christ’s Love


  94. Wallace July 8, 2011 @ 3:44 am

    @ GeorgiosJ,

    Yes, new members are accepted almost daily… It’s basically an open forum and there are plenty there who don’t even identify as Orthodox. Just use a different nickname, or a saint’s name.

    They will have no idea who you are.

    Then if you get banned after that, at least you force them to do it in the open where all can see their bias, and your statements will have been seen by people who are trying to find out what the truth is.

    I just feel like more people should be sticking up for Br. Nathanael and for the truth there. We need to take these people to school.

  95. Paul Bartron July 9, 2011 @ 3:32 am

    The crime of the Roman Catholic Church was the excommunication of a Doctor of Theology Martin Luther.

    What he did was to expose the corruption of the giving of indulgences whereby people could buy their departed loved ones from purgatory. This made the Catholic Church wealthy.

    He also translated the Bible into German thereby revealing the falling away from the faith by the church. By doing this, with the invention of the printing press, the common people supported him and opposed the Catholic Church.

    Puritan opposition to church icons came later. According to some Protestant Churches the Catholic Bible leaves out the second commandment !!

  96. Mr. Dickie Pope July 11, 2011 @ 11:47 am

    Brother Nathanael
    July 5, 2011 @ 6:08 am

    There will be NO discussion on Orthodox/Catholic arguments any longer on this RZN Comments Section.

    We do NOT want to play into the Jews’ hands by fostering acrimony between ourselves who have a COMMON INTEREST in STOPPING THE JEWS!

    Moderators Take Notice! AND I MEAN IT!

    +Brother Nathanael Kapner
    Owner, Real Zionist News

    Great move Brother! Would also like to see more verification for any criticism posted. That keeps the hellhounds at bay.

    However, it ( ‘…COMMON INTEREST in STOPPING THE JEWS!’) plays into all Luciferian hands, not just the Jews. I know this is the ultimate topic of your site but, just stating the Jewish atrocities may incur the same kind of repercussions the Catholic Church went through after WWII that justify ( to their way of thinking; after having bought the lie of Pope Pius XII as ‘Hitlers Pope’) giving the ‘JEWS’ special treatment; with one whole document devoted to ‘what we owe the Jews’ that still plagues the OWCA church today.

    Though the ‘mystery of iniquity’ and ‘the synogogue of Satan’ are terms truly deserving of the unmettenoid Jews (whether Sephardi or Ashkenazim/true bloodlines or adopted in), the heretics of The Church of Christ are equally reprehensible and consequently must be exposed. Otherwise,they are given a right to hide behind the Jews and can claim ignorance or any such reason they may choose,especially ‘ECUMENISM’.

    If you have time Brother Nate take a look at this site. It regards a book authored by Father Cekada a sed. priest that was reviewed by a pro-Vat.II priest with ensuing comments. It mainly deals with the authors argument against the Norvos Ordo mass. The comment section is where the real treasure lies.

    Fr. Joe, here is a web site that might be useful to hone your bombing runs on. This particular site page is Catholics discussing Vat.II regarding the Sedevancantist (no valid pope on throne from Pope Pius XII’s time) position even though the book discussed is originally about the New Order Mass.

    Many of you Orthodox here at Brother Nate site may garner some insights into this monstrous Catholic rift that exists and is not getting any smaller. Sometimes seeing things from a different perspective can rejuvenate our abilities to better grasp an otherwise insurmountable problem.

    Soon Our Lord and Savior will remedy this long separation between the two real camps of believers He has. Perhaps a new understanding will be given us all as a final blessing given to ‘make us all one’, with our differences intact.This I pray for.

    Mr. Dickie Pope

  97. Halina July 11, 2011 @ 3:49 pm

    @ Mr. Dickie Pope
    July 11, 2011 @ 11:47 am

    Bravo! Your last comment deserves an applause.

    Very well said.

  98. Lindsay July 15, 2011 @ 10:11 pm


    Agree that many non-Catholics do not understand the Virgin Birth–Jesus conceived by the Holy Spirit and Joseph as his foster father, the intercession of Mary and her place next to Jesus, assumed into heaven.

    Mary is a much more important figure in the Catholic Church and revered as a Queen unlike the other churches.

    I think some non-Catholics do have an appreciation for this understanding, but many don’t.

    On another note, we signed my daughter up for Vacation Bible School this summer and invited her friend. Her mother declined saying the focus was too much on religion. What would you expect a Bible School to be focused on?

  99. ABY April 18, 2016 @ 7:35 am

    You know, I have been holding back about talking about this, but I guess now is as good a time as any.

    Bill Carson is a follower of the teachings of SDA prophetess EGW. And of course, he has to point his finger to the Greek Orthodox Church, but at the same time three of his fingers point back to his own church and corruptions.

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