Rabbis Against Zionism
By Brother Nathanael Kapner
During his UN visit last month, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad met with a group of anti-Zionist, Hasidic rabbis.
These rabbis call themselves “Neturei Karta,” a Babylonian Aramaic name which means, “Guardians of the Wall.”
After the opening greetings, salutations, and kisses, the rabbinic delegation led by Rabbi Dovid Weiss offered up praises to Ahmadinejad, saying:
“We laud Your Excellency for understanding the difference between Judaism and Zionism, between good and evil.”
Well, I agree…but only in part.
First of all, Ahmadinejad never said that “Israel must be wiped off the map.”
In his 2005 “World Without Zionism” speech, Ahmadinejad actually said, Quote: “Israel is an unnatural creature, it will not survive.” Unquote.
But the Jewish-owned Main Stream Media distorted his words and have spread the “wiping Israel off the map” lie ever since.
Even Israeli Intelligence Minister, Dan Meridor, was recently cornered into admitting that it’s all one big lie.
[Clip: “Now this idea that Iran wants to wipe Israel out, now that’s a common trope. But as we know, Ahmadinejad didn’t say that he plans to exterminate Israel.” “Israel is an unnatural creature it will not survive. They didn’t say we’ll wipe it out, you’re right.”]
Second of all, having been raised as a Jew, Jewish acquaintances of mine from Iran have told me that there’s no persecution. Jews in Iran are free to run their shops and to pray in their synagogues.
Now, though I agree with the rabbis that Zionism is bad, I can’t agree with them that Judaism is good.
Let’s first take a look at Rabbi Dovid Weiss’ own explanation of Neturei Karta’s mission and cause.
[Clip: “Today on Talk to Aljazeera Rabbi Dovid Weiss explains why Zionism and Judaism are not necessarily the same thing.” “Zionism is a new movement, a relatively new movement, a transformation from the religion into a base, materialistic, nationalistic movement, have a piece of land, which is forbidden.”]
True enough. But what the rabbi doesn’t say is that their Talmud teaches that Israel will indeed become a state when their ‘messiah’ comes, setting up his kingdom in Jerusalem and giving the Jewish rabbis global rule over the Goyim. And who will their ‘messiah’ be? The anti-Christ—who the Orthodox Church teaches will be a Jew.
You see, these rabbis…remarkable, yes, for repudiating Zionism…still reject the true Jewish Messiah—Adonai Yeshua ha Mashiach—The Lord Jesus Christ—Who in His role as the Messiah came to conquer death through His Death and Resurrection.
So what’s so good about Judaism? Nothing! It’s bankrupt, it’s a religion of death that denies the Messiahship and Resurrection of Jesus Christ.
Last August, some 90,000 rabbis packed Met Life Stadium in New Jersey to celebrate their Talmud, their ‘holy book’ which blasphemes the Lord Jesus Christ.
[Clip: “For the past seven years and five months, orthodox Jews from around the world have been committed to reading one page of the Talmud every day. Here in the US state of New Jersey, an astonishing 90,000 have squeezed into this stadium to celebrate the latest completion of this cycle.
“This five-hour celebration of the Siyum Hashas was both a serious and joyful event. With rabbis from around the world leading prayers and giving speeches. Upon completion of the ceremonial reading of the final page of the Talmud, the stadium erupted in singing and dancing to mark the completion of the 12th cycle of Daf Yomi.” End of Clip]
Apparently, these rabbis would agree with Neturei Karta’s anti-Zionist stand while awaiting their false ‘messiah’ – the anti-Christ.
All that glitters is not gold. Pretty flowers still wilt in the cold.
The enemies of my enemy—”Rabbis Against Zionism”—are really not my friends at all.
You’ve hit all the bases on this one. I actually visited Neturei Karta’s website out of curiosity, only to find that under their so-called “anti-Zionism” (a big SCAM!) was as any Orthodox Christian or anyone else who know their godless ways the spirit of anti-Christ.
They may talk a big anti-Zionist game, but its all smoke and mirrors. They really, as I saw in your video, blaspheme the true God, our Lord Jesus Christ.
People I know who know Jews would tell me that there funeral “rituals” were wonderful what a bunch of baloney that is. You clearly point out in this and many other videos and posts that Christ-hating Jewry and Judaism is a religion of death.
Indeed the only place the Jews will end up is in the Lake of Fire with their father Lucifer.
Count down the days Brother, my baptism is fast approaching. Sunday October 21st.
These rabbis against Zionism have an unspoken agenda: to RULE over the Goyim when their ‘messiah’ the ANTI CHRIST comes which could be soon.
They use phrases like:
“The time will come when all men will believe in God and atheists will no longer have to be convinced there is a God.”
BUT what these rabbis really mean is this:
“The time will come when our messiah will come and set up his throne in Jerusalem. Then the goyim will be totally under our thumb and they will no longer worship their idols like Jesus Christ but will subject themselves to our rebbe messiah and our god.”
These rabbis simply are against “secular Zionism.” They have their own brand of “religious Zionism” of which the wicked Noahide Laws are attached which calls Christians “idol worshipers.”
And don’t forget. These rabbis see as their ‘holy book’ NOT the Old Testament BUT the Talmud which blasphemes Jesus Christ and His Holy Mother.
ONCE AGAIN - These rabbis are awaiting the ANTI CHRIST and will be among the first to embrace him.
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Interesting article, which you conclude by saying that Anti-Zionist Rabbis are not your friends at all.
This reminds me of some very recent post at your site, in which somebody suggested that we should think of all the nice and pleasant Jewish shopkeepers and office workers, who are following their daily work and are therefore harmless.
You, yourself, Bro Nat, have suggested in response something to the effect that they are “sleeping assets,” maybe your wording was that they are part of the whole.
Others have commented that if Jews would not identify with the aims of the syndicates of International Jewry they would have converted like you have done or at least left the all-embracing organisations of International Jewry, some of which are competently disguised as if they were part of a religious movement.
But when you look at the rabbinic texts supporting these religious claims it becomes clear that they represent nothing else than a vicious “crime manifesto” aiming at world domination and displaying total contempt for the rest of humanity.
If the Chief Ideologist of National Socialist Germany has at the time promulgated that all races of this world are a thought of God I would add to this: The Jews are a thought of the devil and in saying this I know myself in best NT company.
Yet there remains some hesitation in my mind regarding absolute exclusivity when I think of Jews like David Cole or the Jew Feldmann from Vienna.
They have shown such resolve in attacking the structures of International Jewry that they have become victims themselves.
It seems to me that this may be the only group of Jews that carries themselves through this world with a grain of decency and honesty even if some of them are / were forced to recant under vile threats to their lives, to the lives of their families and / or their property.
As usual, Brother Nathanael has hit the nail on the head.
I am a former Jew who abandoned the Jewish belief system (Judaism is not a religion because the Jews worship GOLD, not GOD. SATAN is the real GOD of the Jews) and was led by the Holy Spirit into the loving embrace of Our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
Brother Nathanael and I are on the same page spiritually. We know the evils of Jewry and that in order to be saved, the Jews must take up their crosses (which means giving up the riches that they have collected by swindling Christians) and follow Christ.
Brother Nathanel said: “So what’s so good about Judaism? Nothing! It’s bankrupt, it’s a religion of death that denies the Messiahship and Resurrection of Jesus Christ.”
Let me state a few facts which I can make authoritatively because I have seen the evil face of Judaism close up.
First, THERE ARE NO “GOOD” OR “DECENT” JEWS!!! Every Jew subscribes to the belief that he is superior to all other races and religions in the world. He believes that he is destined to rule the world and that the role of the “goy” animals is to serve him.
Second, there is NO DIFFERENCE between Judaism and Zionism. Every Jew believes that Israel (or “the bandit state of IsraHELL,” as I prefer to call it) is entitled to either destroy or take over the other countries in the vicinity — and so far they’re doing it.
Iraq, Syria, Libya, Tunisia are all examples of the Jews’ wicked reach, and the downfall of every country that the Jews covet.
Iran for now is standing up to the Jews — even in the face of the Jewsmedia’s lies about Mr. Ahmadinejad’s so-called threat to destroy IsraHELL, when he said no such thing — but I have no doubt that the kikes in Jewrusalem are plotting the takeover or the destruction of Iran.
Third, the Jews’ belief system is centered not on the Holy Bible but on the Talmud.
Many Jews have not read the Talmud because that is reserved for the sacred rabbis, but they all have been told in their synagogues what the Talmud commands them to do — lie, cheat, steal, kill, but to do it in a place where they won’t be recognized as Jews if they are caught and bring dishonor to the Jewish people.
When I was a Jew, I was lectured many times on the superiority of the Jews, and told to look down on the non-Jewish people, and especially the Christians. I was taught that Jesus Christ was a bastard and the son of a whore (Mary, the Mother of God) who was promiscuous and slept with Roman soldiers.
I was taught that Jesus was a magician who practiced black magick, and that was why he was able to fool people into believing he was the Son of God.
Of course, that is nothing but a Jewish lie, but that’s what Jew-kids learn in their Sabbath schools, and that’s what they believe.
Fourth, there is no such thing as a Jewish patriot. Jews are loyal to one country, and one country only, the bandit state of IsraHELL. If there was a war between Amerika and IsraHELL, there’s no doubt which side the Jews would choose.
But that’s not going to happen, because kikes don’t fight, they get other Gentile people to do the fighting — and dying — for them. Kikes do their fighting secretly, sneakily, by chewing away at the vitals of a country until it collapses into the arms of the kikes.
Let’s face it, Jews are parasites who suck the lifeblood and the wealth out of their host country, swindle its people out of their hard-earned savings, and then when there’s nothing left to rob, the Jews leave and fasten their greedy claws on some other country, and repeat the process.
Only a few countries — Germany and Russia come to mind — have been able to free themselves from the clutches of greedy Jews — and we all know what happened to Germany — the Jews in the end destroyed it and returned to swindle the people out of their money again.
Now it’s a crime to even think anti-Jewish thoughts in Germany, and speaking or writing things critical of Jewry means a prison sentence.
Amerika is a totally Jewified country and its politicans are either bought off with Jewish gold, or are Jew-lovers themselves.
It will definitely take the intervention of the Holy Spirit to change the course that Amerika is taking to kiss the Jews’ behinds and do everything that their Jewish masters dictate.
I enjoy watching and learning many things about our real world from your videos and written presentations. I spread your words to many who dare to listen to your message.
I enjoy watching their faces contort at the Jew word in context with evil and destruction it brings. They just can’t bring themselves to see the light and the truth as it is. So be it.
While watching this video I couldn’t help but notice a strange anomaly whizzing behind you at a very high rate of speed at minute 2.39. I was able to capture it just above your right eye from right to left. What the heck is that? Its a shade of white almost translucent flutters like a bird but much faster in flight. Could it be the Holy Spirit?
Be careful its a dangerous world out there and you have lots of non believer followers taking notes and plotting your demise. Ill send a donation when I can. Be at Peace forever and keep the message coming.
PS I look forward to the day you can bring your street evangelism to Chicago. We could set up a place for you outside of City Hall where Rahm Emanuel has set up shop. Maybe head to the South Side and meet with Luis Farrakhan for lunch. That would be awesome.
On March 5, 1991, in the House of Representatives, and March 7, 1991, in the U.S. Senate, without any knowledge of, or input by, the people of the United States, U.S. Senators and Congressmen passed a law that is so outrageous – and frankly unconstitutional – that it forces the American people to be bound by a set of monstrous rules, called the Noahide Laws, rules that make the belief in Jesus Christ a crime punishable by decapitation by guillotine!
On March 20, 1991, President George H.W. Bush signed the bill into law.”
I wrote a comment in support of Joe C in the prior BN video. As conversations had begun drifting off course, Joe C stepped to the plate to remind others of the necessity in keeping the bulls-eye in focus: that target of our attention being the cunning, ruthless deceit and treachery of Jewry.
You might enjoy reading my words of support for Joe C and BN. Bottom line is this: nothing can change until far more people begin to understand the source of the disaster: i.e., Jewry here and Jewry abroad.
If we hopefully have enough time (i.e., before a worldwide war sucks us in), this education process could go on for at least another 10 years, and that’s because the vast majority of Gentiles just don’t get it.
You are showing us from the “inside” out what Judaism is really about. The Talmud is the product of the turning away from the true God and the subsequent Babylonian Captivity.
So how can a Jew in good conscience rely on that text for instruction? Pray that many more Jews convert now that they can read the entire/excerpts of the Talmud online and the evil sayings against the “Goyim” and Jesus first hand.
It’s hard for a Christian who has been raised in the Faith to phantom the arrogance, distortion of Truth and blasphemy found in the text of the Talmud.
We are taught as Christians that only God as represented in His Son and His Spirit is Supreme therefore worthy of worship and all praise. No human kingdom can compare to His Kingdom. All fall short.
The Jews must convert because it is the only Truthful Way. If they deny Jesus, they deny the Truth of the God they claim to serve. Jesus said it definitively “I am the Way, and the Truth, and the Life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.” John 14:6
There is only one ultimate choice to make in one’s life. Who will I serve?……..Jesus the Way, the Truth, the Life… or ……Satan the Father of Lies.
Thank you Brother Nathanael for your courageous affirmation of the Truth.
Your outstanding defense of Jesus and His message. Your determination to show us the Truth about all things political and spiritual.
You are a beacon of God’s Light in this dark and dishonest world.
Love your screen name, whether it’s your real name or a pseudoname.
“You are a den of viapers and thieves…and by the Eternal God I intend to route you out…and I will route you out!” Something on this line in addressing the central banking debt money scumballs (very likely Rothschild flunkie Jews) of his day!
– The Great Andrew Jackson, (5th or 7th President of the U.S. — don’t recall for sure which, but I do know that John Quincy Adams was no. 6)
This is a very important concept, which was developed already in the twenties and thirties by several German (Theodor Fristch, Ulrich Fleischhauer and others) and American researchers (Lesley Fry, Henry Ford). In German both branches are known as “Realzionismus” and “Symbolzionismus.”
These branches of Zionism seek the same objective (world domination and enthronement of the Anti-Christ) but with different methods.
Symbolic Zionism seeks to achieve first the grand goal of world domination (their “Zion”), and only after that enthrone their false Messiah in Jerusalem. This is why they think Jews must stay in the Diaspora, and are against the state of Israel.
Practical Zionism strived (successfully) to first gain Palestina, as a base to be used in world domination. They seek to get as many Jews as possible to invade Palestinian land.
Both movements had their champions in the infamous 1897 Basel Congress. ACHAD HAAM (= ASHER GINZBERG) championed Symbolic Zionism and THEODOR HERZL, the father of Israel, championed Practical Zionism.
Achad Haam is the suspect number one of being the intellectual father of the “PROTOCOLS OF THE ELDER OF ZION,” because the latter are without doubts the program of Symbolic Zionism.
Thus, Neturei Karta is very much in line with Symbolic Zionism when they oppose the State of Israhell, but they do it out of much more sinister intentions than what they concede!
BOTH BRANCHES OF ZIONISM ARE ENEMIES OF CHRISTIANITY!
Zionists, Christians, Luciferians, Communists, capitalists, and Muslims all become the one as a member of the human race on Earth when they touch money.
Physical and spiritual assets are embedded into it. They all have “greed.”
A human’s intellectual and chaotic greed is the reason why the religions, artificial time intervals (calendars - leading to monthly, half year, and annual payments), financial systems, hierarchies, invention/material exploitation, laws, deceptions for profits, and governing systems were born.
I found where our old friend Norseman back in 2010 posted on +BN’s article, The Jews Who Wrote The Protocols of Zion, a several part translation from German — The Authenticity of the Protocols Proven — Co. Ulrich Fleischhauer’s Expert Report 1935.
In it, Col. Fleischhauer analyzes two distinct document trends reflecting the movements of “Realzionismus” and “Symbolzionismus” just as you’ve described. (I’m copying it now to keep. This was a real labor of love by Norseman).
Brother Nathanael has not said much about St. Paul and the Council of Jerusalem.
A lot of Jews feel that the law of circumcision on the 8th day cannot be changed, so Christianity must be false. If a man is not circumcised, he cannot be part of Israel and he cannot be saved.
Some Jews cannot understand how rules like that can be changed. Brother Nathanael has the gift of faith, but many people do not, so they will never understand.
Arnold Toynbee wrote a piece about the tremendous impact of St. Paul on Western history, and it could be said that Christianity would not be what it is without his contribution, but a lot of people do not understand how the religion of St. Paul is Christianity.
RUSSIAN GENERAL CONTINUES HIS LECTURES ABOUT THE ROTHSCHILD’S CRIME INC (OR LTD?).
Although this video was uploaded on March 11, 2012, it is good to review it because it shows that the Russian leadership is well aware of the nature of the beast. Following the Russian style of presentation, the names Rothschild, etc, come a few minutes after the introduction.
NOTE: I like to remind the readers that after the arrival in Berlin of the Red Army (during the last days of WWII), the Red Army took all the information (many truck loads) that the Third Reich had on Secrets Societies (including those directly controlled by the Rothschilds). (A small part of this information is now available to the public.)
Therefore, it seems justifiable to think that the Russians have a more complete picture than any other nation on the nature of the beast. (Let’s not forget the alleged origin of The Protocols.)
Thank you for this vid, brother. I was really looking forward to it.
Just a couple of things:
1) You may or may not be familiar with a fact that Catholic Church - you may say - in an indirect way confirming the Orthodox Church teaching about a Jew being an Antichrist. I guess it was the Lady of La Salette revelation who said that Antichrist will be a child of a Jewish nun & a bishop.
If I’m not mistaken, according to Talmud, if conversion from Judaism to Christianity is “pro forma” rabbis don’t put a curse upon that person, because it’s just beneficial or political conversion; so Antichrist will be Jewish.
2)I wonder if rabbis were reading the full, uncensored version of Talmud - you now what I mean, right brother?
3) Can you tell me something or post a web link about one of Russian rabbis from 18th or 19th century who converted to Christianity & exposed Judaism too?
I know he was called Brother Neofit or something like that (probably doesn’t tell you much).
He is supposed to to have said that rabbis are fully aware of the fact that Iesus Christus is a true Messiach (he pointed out the verses from the book of Jeremijah - if I’m correct) but intentionally refuse to accept Iesus as a Messiah, so they do it on purpose. He said many other interesting things about Jews & Judaism
Thank you again especially in the name of those you thought that only a Zionism is a problem but Judaism is OK.
Sorry, I have to contradict, not all Jews are evil. Like you for example.
Or like Louis Pasteur said on his death bed:
“It’s the terrain, not the germ.”
To my mind - maybe I am wrong - are in the first place only American Jews malicious. This has cultural reasons. In America you have freedom to everything - to good or as well to evil and the Jews use this freedom to commit evil.
Just look at the German-Jewish Nobel price laureate Fritz Haber, a real patriot who cancelled the friendship with a well known and treacherous astronomer with the comment “In times of despair, you have betrayed your own folk.”
Yes, it is really true: Some Jews have integrated.
In 20th century there was an international conference in Switzerland about the question who takes the Jews from Russia who have to flee (because of their behaviour).
Nobody liked them, even England did not, so the Germans gave them shelter. Out of mercy. An investing which paid out very badly.
Even Wilhelm II, whose family had settled the Jews in Germany because of mercy, became an antisemite after WWI. In a letter to an English friend he wrote:
“Die Presse, die Juden und Mücken sind eine Pest, von der sich die Menschheit so oder so befreien muß – I believe the best would be gas.“
“The press, the Jews and the flies are a plague from which the world has to be freed – either way, I believe gas would be best !”
Or his brother, Prince Henry of Prussia in a letter to a friend:
“Judah is responsible that we have lost the war.”
There are (few) good Jews, too.
Anton Graf von Arco auf Valley, a Jew who killed the communistic Jew Kurt Eisner from Russia who tried to take over Bavaria.
Not all Jews are evil, only the Jews who try to prevent that Jews and Non-Jews come together.
This should be a lesson to everybody who is kind to these sickos.
Believe it or not: They reward kindness withe a knife in your back!
Hans is overseas, English is not his main language. I would say his syntax was a bit off.
I don’t think he was saying Glory B. is evil. I’m certain he meant “Like you for example (are not a bad Jew.)”
I found some information on the monk Neofit.
Excerpt from a Jewish history site:
In 1803, a leaflet attacking Jews and Judaism, Infruntarea jidovilor asupra legii şi a obiceiurilor lor (”Protesting the Jews,” “Insolence of the Jews” or “Confronting the Jews Concerning Their Laws and Customs”), was published in Iaşi; its author was the converted Jew Rabbi Noah Belfer, who had become a monk under the name Neofit.
The leaflet was published with the approval of the metropolitan of Moldavia, Iacob Stamate, but the new metropolitan Veniamin Costachi came to the Jews’ defense. In 1821, during the Greeks’ rebellion against Ottoman rule, the Jews in Iaşi living in the same district as the Turks were attacked along with them by the rebelling Greeks.
In 1835, Prince Mihail Sturdza determined to expel Jews without legal rights of residence, but he eventually abandoned the idea when the banker Yeḥi’el Mikhl ben Dani’el forgave a large debt owed to him by the prince. http://www.yivoencyclopedia.org/article.aspx/Iasi
Monk Neofit and his leaflet is also mentioned in this report about the Holocaust(TM) in Romania:
He wrote it at a time of increasing immigration into the Romanian provinces from partitioned Poland and Russia. There were rising accusations of Jewish ritual murder.
Did a search using - Infruntarea jidovilor - and quite a few hits turn up in Romanian. I looked at a few of the Romanian sites through computer translation that came back with this title for a subject.
There were 12 tribes of Israel and one of the tribes was the tribe of Judah. That’s where the Jews came from. It is a birth thing. There are 10 lost tribes which date back to 722 BC and there are not spoken of, because they are lost or gone.
In the book of Matthew Jesus said to the Jews, don’t say we have Abraham as our father, for God is able to raise the stone from the ground to praise him.
By the book of Matthew you can see, it’s a birth issue. They’re physical descendants of Abraham. Even the Jews, to different degrees follow genealogy.
In Matthew, it gives a genealogy that says from Abraham to David was 14 generations, then from David to exile was 14 generations, and from exile to Christ was 14 generations.
42 generations until Jesus came the first time and in the tribulation it will be 42 months when he comes the second time.
The Jews most certainly are born according to the flesh, true by birth, descendants of Abraham.
Jesus came to preach a message that a man needs to be born again, according to the spirit, because being born of the flesh will save no man, including Jews.
Read the book of Galatians. It says that the children born the natural way by the flesh (the bond woman) will persecute the children born of the promise and by faith (Isaac).
Paul said the Jews, who are born of the flesh, will persecute the Christians who are born of the spirit.
Galatians says the children of the bond woman are the Jews and the children born by the promise and faith are the believers in Jesus Christ.
The Jews from the time of Jesus until the present day continue to persecute the true children, born of faith in Jesus Christ, the children of the promise.
Big problem: we use the same tricky word “JEW” for different, and even opposing terms, as follows:
1) Jews are the descendants of Abraham (ethnic definition). These ethnic Jews are nowadays a minority, including the Sephardi and other minor groups.
2) We also know as “Jews” the people of the Old Covenant of the Old Testament, “Israel.” This is a religious definition. However, the New Covenant superseded the Old, and the new Israel is in fact Christianity.
3) Third, we know as Jews the followers of Talmudism, mainly developed after the rejection of Christ. These are modern Jews in a religious sense.
4) To complicate things even more we further know as Jews all late converts to Talmudic Judaism (most of the Ashkenazim if we follow the Kazar hypothesis of Koestler), mostly without noticing that in this case they are Jews in a religious sense but not in a racial sense.
To sum it up:
- Anyone professing the religion of Talmudism, and/or
- Anyone of Jewish ethnicity that has not sincerely embraced Christianity (be them religious, secular or even atheists), and/or
- All crypto-Jews (Marranos included),
The term “born again” is definitively 100% false. In Greek origin it says, “born from above” (ANOTHEN, ΑΝΩΘΕΝ) what means, one has to BE CALLED BY GOD TO ENTER the CHURCH of CHRIST and live in HER SACRAMENTS.
Nobody comes to the Son, if the Father does not send him to the Son. And those, who the Father sends to the Son will be KEPT be the Son. Jesus Christ has promisedt hat!
Nobody can be saved from himself, even if he “enters” the Church by himself, if he is not called by God.
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
My Father, which gave them Me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of My Father’s hand.
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Moreover whom He did predestinate, them he also called: and whom He called, them He also justified: and whom He justified, them He also glorified.
Many so called Christians unfortunately justify themselves making thus God to their enemy.
According to the Orthodox Tradition Judas WAS NOT called by Jesus Christ. He followed Him by himself. All the other Apostles were CALLED by Jesus Christ, and were sent to Him by the Father. And He justified and glorified them all!
Thank you, friends, for this fascinating discussion on the question, “Who Is a Jew or Not a Jew.”
Hans called me a Jew, a good Jew (because I abandoned the Jewish belief system and turned my life and my eternal soul over to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, the True Messiah that the Jews rejected and crucified), but a Jew nevertheless.
Then Taylor answered Hans, and said “Glory B. is NOT a Jew. She WAS a Jew at one time, but renounced her connection to those rats years ago by becoming a Christian.”
“Same goes for Brother Nathanael.”
Thank you, Taylor, for your answer to Hans, and for the many kind words that you have addressed to, and about, me.
I agree with Taylor … I am not a Jew, and have not been one since I renounced the satanic, Christ-hating Jew belief system and became a Christian.
I suppose by Hans’s thinking, once a Jew, always a Jew, because to him being a Jew is a matter of race and not religion.
I, on the other hand, KNOW that I AM NOT A JEW, and in fact despise everything that Jewry stands for … the greed, the desire to rule the world, the domination of Gentile — and especially Christian — people.
When I was a Jew, I walked in darkness. When the Holy Spirit brought me to Jesus Christ, I moved into the light, the light of Christ, who illuminates the whole world.
Some believe that the Jews are ignorant, and that is why they look on Jesus as the son of a whore (Mary the Mother of God) and believe that our Lord was a magician who fooled the people with black magick arts.
But I think the Jews are not ignorant, they are very smart, but in an evil way.
They KNOW that Jesus Christ is the true Messiah of the Jews, but to follow Him they would have to REPENT of their past sins and ACCEPT Him as their long-awaited Messiah.
And they are too cunning, too sinful, too much in love with wealth and power, ever to give up their Jewish pride.
Clearly many of you here on this forum are aware of the evils of Jewry and would just love to see them all disappear.
I happen to agree with you, and I still believe that Jewry is heading for a great downfall unless they give up their parasitical belief system and become, like I did, believers in Jesus Christ.
So Hans, I have to disagree with you that I am still a Jew. I am a former Jew who has turned my life over to Jesus Christ, and like Martin Luther said, “Here I stand.”
I had some interesting information about brother Neofit. I tried to find it today, but failed to do so.
Brother Neofit was talking about the ritual murders made by Jews. He said it is true but not very many Jews in the community know about it. Only rabbis know & still probably not everyone of them. (May give you some insight if someone is interested - just leave a comment for demand)
Also I have a question (especially directed to Brother Nathanael). What do you think about Messianic Jews organisations?
Does it have a sense to connect Jewish & Christian traditions i.e. You celebrate Hanukkah and after few days you celebrate Christmas? Can you be a Christian & keep your Jewish identity like in Jews for Jesus organization?
I hope you all know what I’m trying to say - don’t want to write too much to not bore you.
“I suppose by Hans’s thinking, once a Jew, always a Jew, because to him being a Jew is a matter of race and not religion.”
Was late yesterday, forget it, was the wrong example.
I had Messianic Judaism in the back of my mind and somehow mixed it up with you.
Anyway, there are people - Jews as well as Non-Jews, who define Jews by their race. They think that a horse, which was born in a cowshed, is not a cow.
I am not sure if this is the right perception.
All this stuff about genetics was never very appealing to me so I can’t say much to it. I am a little bit suspicious because science changes often their conceptions and theories. What is today true is tomorrow obsolete.
I think the last word is not yet spoken in genetics so I leave this question for me open.
Best way to define people is probably by their mindset.
Someone who considers himself as anything, is what he thinks that he is. It is that simple. The mindset is important, not what is written on any paper.
We have Caucasians, Asians & Africans. Those are primals. Jews? What about their race? We have Caucasian Jews - Ashkenazi from Easter Europe i.e. Poland, Russia, Hungary which are descendants of Khazars, not the Old Testament Jews. Sephardi Jews, Mizrahi & Ethiopian Jews.
They’re not a race, they’re a community. Christians or Muslims are community, but they’re not calling themselves a race.
When it comes to genetics, Jews have problem, because they have to run medical tests to eliminate possibility of affinity. They look alike (i.e. nose and so on) because they live strictly in the community.
Concerning what a ‘Jew’ is (my 2 cents, and this is only what I’ve come across recently) - ‘Jew’ is derived from the Greek word meaning simply ‘Judean.’
Judea was a colonial possession of Rome at the time of Christ, and Israelites, that is those of the Southern Kingdom and its surviving tribes of Judah and Benjamin, made up only part of the population, which was also heavily Samaritan (mixture of the Northern Kingdom’s 10 tribes and Assyrian) and Edomite (descendants of Esau who were forcefully converted to the Israelite religion by Judea’s ruler, John Hyrcanus, in 132 BC).
It seems when the Romans came in, they did much like modern colonial powers, and chose to set up a less powerful minority group with a grudge as their puppet rulers. Both the Herods, including Herod the Great who attempted to kill Christ as an infant, were Edomites.
Seems the Herods did not satisfy the Romans as puppet kings, so they tossed out Herod Archelaus, and sent in a series of Roman governors. But before they did this, the first Herod, Herod the Idumean (Greek for ‘Edomite’) I think he placed his fellow Edomites in control of the Pharisee sect that ran the Temple and society.
None of this is in the Bible, but was recorded by Flavius Josephus, a Roman historian who was also Judean. There is also reference to the Edomite connection in some versions of Jewish Encyclopedias.
Thus when the ‘Jews who believed’ argue with Jesus in John Ch. 8 that their father is Abraham and they’ve never been slaves, that is telling us something very key, helping us to understand why Jesus responds to them by telling them their father is the Devil.
In my opinion, their forefather might have been Abraham, but he wasn’t Jacob aka ISRAEL, because the descendants of Jacob had indeed been slaves in Egypt. The Edomite descendants of Esau had not, and were present among Judeans.
The only Judean sect to come intact out of the Roman destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD (other than Christians, ofcourse) were the Pharisees, who I believe had been taken over by Edomites but still had Israelites among them.
The Apostle Paul, a former Pharisee, explains in Romans that he is an Israelite of the tribe of Benjamin (he doesn’t say ‘Jew’). And of course, if you have an NIV Study Bible, p. 1433 explains the Pharisees were the “spiritual progenitors of modern Judaism.” Some versions of Jewish Encyclopedias explain this too.
So what does this mean to me? Certainly, the people calling themselves Jews today can be more accurately termed as being the descendants of ‘Judeans’ during Roman times.
They weren’t necessarily of the 12 tribes of Israel (Jacob), and very likely have quite a bit of Esau’s blood in them. The fact they call this nation they’ve started down there, with the financial patronage and six-pointed emblem of the Rothschilds, ‘Israel’ is rather ironic, since it’s possible they have more to do, genetically, with Esau than they do Jacob (aka Israel).
As for the Christian Identity arguments about the 10 lost tribes of Israel being among white Europeans, the evidence seems tenuous to me.
One thing is for sure, ‘Jews’ have carried out the biggest fraud in human history right under the noses of the true inheritors of Abraham and Jacob’s covenant, Christians, by placing themselves down there and having so many of us believe they are the ‘chosen’.
At the apex are the extremely ruthless, evil and wealthy Jews hell bent on world conquest and enslavement of the rest of mankind. With many of them in Bnai Brith and who are the “Illuminati.” The Jews at the base of the pyramid are fairly harmless and no more evil than many Gentiles and so called Christians that support genocidal wars and the rogue state of Israel.
So, the difference between Judaism and Zionism is a matter of ruthlessness and power.
The “Messianic Jews” who believe in Jesus or Yeshua are not really Jews because Jews by definition are rejecters of Jesus and the Holy Spirit. The messianic Jews are like the original followers of Jesus.
The “Torah True” Jews are Jews who believe they should return to the promised land only when the true messiah arrives and gives it to them. They are opposed to Zionism and the forced taking of the promised land.
Therefore, I don’t see them as evil or a part of the wicked aspects of Judaism such as the Talmudic decrees and blasphemy. They too are like the original Hebrews and much less into idolatry and devil worship.
“The organizers of the Christian “Feast of Tabernacles” celebration, who have brought more than 3,000 tourists to Israel for the week of Sukkot, “have their own interests, namely the spreading of the vision of their messiah and the arrival of his kingdom,” said Fenton.
“While all people are free to believe and worship as they wish, Fenton said, Jews must proclaim that their Messianic vision is at odds with the Christian one.
“There are people, especially on the right, who are prepared to pay a price [of getting close to Christians] that great rabbis of the Jewish people rejected for generations,” said King.
“The institute he founded is busy reconstructing and recreating all the material elements necessary for a Third Temple to be ready to function. He is particularly involved in the crafting of a mobile altar, which can be installed quickly when sacrifices are again performed ….
“If the State of Israel were to permit sacrifices to be made (at the Temple Mount), that would already be enough to make me jump for joy….
“I don’t think performing sacrifices is a pagan act, we are just not accustomed to it. After all, everyone slaughters animals, so what makes it pagan? The fact that part of it is sacrificed on an altar?”
The Orthodox Jews have been obsessed with Jerusalem and Greater Israel for some time.
Here are some more excerpts from Stehelin’s 1748 edition of Johann Eisenmenger’s research that was banned in 1700 before it could be published. Stehelin’s edition is 900 pages of Rabbinic blasphemy. Eisenmenger’s original work Entdecktes Judenthum (Judaisim Unmasked)was 2000 pages.
Rabbi Menasse ben Israel - Nishmath chajim: Fol.25, Col. 2
Tis proper for these to know, that the Experienc’d in the Cabala unanimously declare, that One Paradise is above, and another here below: And they speak the Truth: For thus thou findest it in the Parascha Shemoth of the Treatise Sohar (Zohar).
The one is the upper Palace; where are Rivers of Balsam, and Varieties of Pleasures for the Life to come. And the Lower Paradise, which is call’d the Lower Palace, hath likewise Something of the Pleasures of the Life to come; but these Pleasures are not natural or appropriate to the Place, but are deriv’d into it from the upper Palace.
“And the same is call’d Apirjon, that is the Bride’s Bed.” In several other Places it is said, “There is a Paradise above in Heaven, and a Paradise here below upon Earth.”
Touching the Situation of the Lower Paradise, the Rabbi Shem Tof, in his Treatise entitled Sopher Haemunoth (Fol. 65 Col. 1), delivers himself in the following Manner.
” ‘Tis clear from the Words of the Scribes, that there is, on a certain Portion of this Earth, a Paradise; and that from thence issue Four Rivers; one of which is Euphrates, which encompasseth the Land of Israel: And the whole literal Sense of what is written concerning the Order of Creation, is Fact. ‘Tis likewise asserted by the Knowing, that Paradise is situate under the Middle Line of the World (The Equator) where the Days are always of equal Length.”
Dealing in Hate (1979) - The Development of Anti-German Propaganda, by Michael F Connors
An exploration of the rise of Anti-Germanism and the anti German propaganda of the twentieth century.
Excerpt: Nineteenth century German prestige
This dark image of a sinister, aggressive, predatory, and militarily regimented Germany only became prevalent in the present century.
The English historian, Frederic William Maitland, has described the once characteristic attitude toward the Germans:
… it was usual and plausible to paint the German as an unpractical, dreamy, sentimental being, looking out with mild blue eyes into a cloud of music and metaphysics and tobacco smoke.
The French writer, Madame de Stael, romantically portrayed for the Napoleonic world of the early nineteenth century a Germany utterly unlike the grotesque image later drawn by the Allied propagandists of two World Wars.
Madame de Stael’s Germans were a nation of “Poets and Thinkers,” a race of kindly, impractical, other-worldly dreamers without national prejudices and, strangely, in the light of later propaganda, “disinclined to war.”
In America too, a similarly warm view of things German predominated. It is difficult to exaggerate the constructive impact of German institutions upon American life and the cordiality of the reception accorded them in the century or so from Frederick the Great to Bismarck.
The story of this golden age of German-American relations has been magnificently chronicled by a very thorough and gifted American scholar, Henry M. Adams, in his recently published Prussian- American Relations, 1775-1871.
In the cultural and intellectual spheres as in the political sphere the relationship was one of immense mutual profit.
“Possibly even more difficult to grasp, for those whose thinking has been shaped by the propaganda of recent years, is the fact that throughout the nineteenth century France rather than Germany was cast in the role of international bully and villain.”
From chapter - American Scholars and War Guilt [WWI]
“It should occasion no surprise then, in the circumstances, that once we had entered the war all the stops were pulled in the propaganda campaign against Germany. …
From the German viewpoint, the most damaging wartime propaganda volume was that of Henry Morgenthau wherein it was alleged that the Kaiser, in company with the top bankers, diplomats, military leaders, and industrialists of Germany, decided on war at a secret Crown conference held at Potsdam on July 5, 1914. …
Scholars, including Fay and Barnes … have, on the basis of contemporary documents, exposed the fictitious nature of the [the Jew] Morgenthau “revelations.” [During Henry Morgenthau, Sr’s assignment as American Ambassador to Turkey.]
The Crown Conference never took place for the very good reason that the persons alleged to have been present proved to have been elsewhere on that date.
Yet Mr. Lansing’s Commission of the Peace Conference cited the Crown Conference Legend as justification for Article 231 of the Treaty, the notorious German ‘war guilt clause.’”
Words cannot convey my astonishment at the effort made over 25 years worth of appeals, and at the last, over 200 different national and international Jewish groups alone who sponsored a petitions for a 60-day stay of execution and commutation.
Grossman’s trial was in early 1987. The Governor of Florida signed the death warrant in 1990. Crist signed it again in 2010.
About the same amount of money and energy, or even more, by the Jewish community has gone into trying to get Grossman off as they have in the case of Jonathan Pollard.
My question is, would 200 Jewish organizations have lined up to do this for a Gentile?
How about Harvard civil liberties law professor Alan Dershowitz going to bat for a Gentile?
Dershowitz, who signed onto the effort on behalf of Grossman, wrote in the Jewish groups’ public statement: “Even those who strongly support capital punishment would limit it to recidivists or people who commit the most heinous of crimes. Martin Grossman fits neither of those categories.”
Let’s see, Grossman, who was already on parole for burglary, beat the wildlife officer, who happened to be a woman who was a foot shorter and 100 lbs lighter, 20 to 30 times with her own heavy-duty flashlight (probably a Kel-lite in those days) before grabbing the gun she was trying to use in self-defense and then shooting her in the back of the head.
She was a fighter. She disabled Grossman’s 17-year old co-assailant with a kick to the groin.
But I guess this is just not heinous enough for Dershowitz.
For the record, I oppose the death penalty.
On the other hand, the Jews sure can’t take eye-for-eye justice when it comes to one of their own, but they will certainly dish it out without mercy, and even extra-judicially, to anyone that remotely crosses them.
I noticed Pope Benedict XVI also made a special appeal for clemency. Would he have done this for some Gentile on death row? And there are plenty.
I would only disagree with you on the death penalty.
I support it for the following crimes (usually accompanying one another): Murder, rape (note the pre-Furman and pre-Gregg v Georgia standards), drug trafficking (already imposed by the laws in my state of Florida and by the Federals).
I wonder if any Rabbis “Against Zionism” (more like Rabbis for the Anti-Christ) are involved with more cases in Amerika like this as much as they with trying to get the Gentiles to kiss Israel’s commie arse.
I have also taken the liberty of placing a link to your site.
I clearly and unequivocally want to express what most decent men and women – of whatever race, religion or nationality - feel but dare not put into words for fear of being labelled anti-semitic and dragged into a kangaroo court on this fraudulent hate-crime charge.
And what I feel is outrage and disgust.
Here we go again – another round of atrocities carried out by “the world’s most moral army.”
Israel’s specialty? Intentionally targetting the civilian population of one of the world’s most defenceless nations! And then blaming the victims!
The West’s specialty? Watching the action and claiming the moral high ground by spouting “beautiful and heart-felt” words about restraint and peace – blahblah – while kissing Israel’s arse!
There will be a price to pay! It’s called justice! And it’s on its way!
I am not going to mince words:
For too long this war-mongering entity has run amok in the Middle East, endangering not only the nations and peoples of this particular region but the whole world. For too long Israel has fooled and manipulated the West with its Holocaust hoax and its shrill battle-cry of “anti-semitism!”
For too long this criminally insane state has inflicted on the Palestinians practices copied from the Nazi repertoire of racism, ethnic cleansing and genocide while at the same time trying to hoodwink the world into seeing it as the innocent victim of millenia of persecution.
The message to Jews inside and outside Israel is clear:
a) Support of Israel’s policies makes you accomplices in its crimes. Remember how you judged all Germans guilty of complicity in the Nazi crimes? Can you show reason why this principle of collective guilt would not apply to you vis-a-vis Israeli crimes?
b) Gentiles are not out to get you! Overcome your victim mentality and understand that – throughout your history – you yourself have created your enemies in most cases! And you are not morally and intellectually superior as Ben-Gurion expressed it and as most of you believe!!!
c) Dissociate yourself from Zionism and make amends for its crimes. Aren’t you still vigorously pursuing those who have wronged you? Or does the moral obligation to make amends not apply to you?
It is abundantly clear to anybody – save for the wilfully blind – that the writing is on the wall for Zionist Israel and its rabid protagonists – whether Jewish or Christian. The world is waking up.