Pussy Riot’s Global Showdown
By Brother Nathanael Kapner
Some call it a clash of civilizations but I call it a clash of spirituality.
On the one side is the West’s promotion of decadence—which leads to a police state—and on the other is the East’s, that is, Russia’s promotion of a Christian society.
And the pawns in this global showdown are three young girls of the Russian punk group, Pussy Riot.
In February 2012, these girls—part of a staged “protest”, largely funded by the Jewish CIA cover, the National Endowment for Democracy, led by its Jewish founder, Carl Gershman—entered Christ The Saviour Cathedral in Moscow and performed a sacrilegious dance. Mocking the Cross was part of their blasphemy.
The cameras were ready and the script was carefully written …yes, attack what Jewry fears most, the “Symphony of Church and State,” the Byzantine ideal which Russia inherited and Putin is fostering.
It is Putin and his government’s strong tie to the Orthodox Church, the “Symphony of the Spiritual and the Temporal”—for this is what’s at stake here—that these worthless girls were instructed to denounce through a ‘media event’ easily propagated by the Jewish globalized press.
And one look at the Russian supporters of Pussy Riot’s desecration of the sacred evinces a strong Jewish underpinning:
Boris Nemtsov – Valerie Novodvorskaya – Democracy’s pin-up boy, chess player Garry Kasperov – Leonid Gozman – and Vladimir Posner.
This past week, Pussy Riot was handed a lenient 2 year jail sentence instead of the mandatory 7 years stipulated by Russian law for desecrating a religious site.
Now think for a minute. If a punk group did the same thing in a synagogue every media venue would be crying bloody murder and World Jewry would be demanding the punks be hung by their toes.
But this is about a Church and the Jewish-led West is all in an uproar over the Russian verdict. Russia’s reaction? The West can shove it.
This is illustrated by the Russian people’s attitude toward the old hag Madonna’s August 9th concert in St Petersburg…mostly attended by Western outsiders.
Responding to Madonna’s lewd promotion of Pussy Riot’s ‘right of artistic expression,’ Russian deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin called Madonna a “moralizing whore,” adding, “with age every former slut tries to lecture everyone on morality especially on overseas tours.”
Upping the ante, citizens of St Petersburg filed a 10-million dollar law-suit against Madonna for preaching homosexuality to minors, a violation of Russian law.
The showdown has arrived. Pussy Riot is only a small skirmish in the LARGER clash of spirituality upon us.
You see, the Zionist West with its spiritual decay is on the decline. Yet they’re not going to go down without a fight.
But Christian Russia with its Spiritual ripening is on the rise.
“A Star shall rise in the East,” Dostoyevsky once proclaimed.
My friends, the battle against the wicked West has only just begun.
Judgement has begun to fall on JEWmerika. It’s going to get worse.
JEWmerika is a wicked, decadent country while Russia is building its nation as a Christian society CENTERED on the Holy Orthodox Church.
Putin is a devout Orthodox Christian. Just take a look at the purity shining in his holy face.
But Obama and Romney are Jew arse-kissers…they have Jew-marks all over them and will DO THE JEW’S BIDDING always and forever.
But Putin is not beholden to the Christ-Hating, decadence-promoting Jews. Putin is his own man, or should I say, Putin is CHRIST’s man and I love him.
You see, Putin and I share from the same Holy Chalice of Holy Communion. Thus, Putin is my “blood brother.”
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Outstanding work yet again on this Pussy Riot political theater, very pure and crystalline in its presentation and symbolic videography, and exposing the lies of the Western media.
Where did you ever find that really expressive footage of Madonna as she really is, inside and outside, a burned out whore? It really does take a lot of money to look that cheap, you know.
So, Pussy Riot, a nothing feminist band with no professional recordings to speak of, is supported by the State Department’s front National Endowment for Democracy. Why am I not surprised?
You’ve superbly brought out the Jewish underpinning of this event, by naming a handful of key Jewish names yet again, and describing the subtle but definite dichotomy of spiritual and moral warfare between the rising Orthodox Christian East and its Byzantine Symphonia between Church and State and the satanically mired, “morally relative” Judaized West led by Jewmerica and Israhell.
God bless you for all of your labors, dear +BN, and my contribution will be on the way.
These feminist whores are a insult to Russia and many parts of the world where the sane “Goyim” live.
I just CAN’T believe the Judeo-Western axis of evil, who are probably financing and/or supporting these “people,” have shoved their noses in yet another country.
Those damn sleazebag “women” deserved what they got.
Most of “Western” civilization is POISONED by Jewry. This is the type of poison that is near impossible to wash off.
I’ve seen people here from all sorts of political sides support these bitches. Its UNBELIEVABLE.
The degradation of this society makes me SICK! People here know nothing about real Christian morals. They are just a bunch of pro-abortion, pro-feminist, pro-gay, pro-affirmative action hypocrites (all heavily pushed for by Jews).
“You-know-who” is obviously using these floozies as a way to get at their latest arch enemy, V. Putin.
We all know the drill very well by now: the outraged sobs from all the usual suspects, the phony poll results, the solemn declarations by leading Judaeo-masons…. Soon there will be calls for more direct action against those dastardly Russkies.
One can’t help but notice how quickly the smirks left PR’s faces after the sentence was read.
I especially liked Germany’s reponse:
“A letter of support from 120 members of the German parliament, the Bundestag, was sent to the Russian Ambassador to Germany, Vladimir Grinin. The letter referred to proceedings against the women as being disproportionate and draconian….” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pussy_Riot
Hmmm, do they mean “disproportionate and draconian” like Ernst Zundel, Germar Rudolf, Horst and Sylvia Mahler, John Demjanjuk, etc, etc, etc…?
I would not say these girls are worthless, they are made in God’s image as are we all. But they are very mistaken and misled.
Their ‘handlers’ skillfully chose the Cathedral of Christ the Saviour to pull their stunt, for maximum shock value.
The largest Russian Orthodox Church in the world, it was dynamited by the bolsheviks in 1931, and rebuilt according to the original plans, thanks be to God, when the the old USSR fell.
They are the very same type that cheered in 1931 when Christ the Savior Cathedral was destroyed.
As they consider themselves ‘artists,’ they should recall the tragic life of another Russian artist, Vladimir Mayakovsky, a most talented ‘avant-garde’ who cheered the overthrow of the Tsar and traditional Russian culture.
He was used by the Reds and tossed aside by them when no longer needed. He committed suicide in Russia around the time of the demolition of the Cathedral.
I pray these young women will repent, turn, and be saved.
Mark Glenn said last week on his program, with a great laugh, as if it was no great surprise (it isn’t), that these Pussy Riot girls - he didn’t use the raw term, were all Jewish !
On RT today they said that one of the girls had been simulating a sex act with a chicken in another church.
I was stunned as they showed her naked, bent backwards, legs spread, simulating the insertion of a chicken into her private part, which had been pixelled out - of course, but it was unmistakeable what was being acted.
So, yes, no question in my mind that this particular act was intentionally deeply blasphemous, morally a whisker away from her having defecated on the altar had she done so.
The more outrageous the act the more certain that there would have been choreographers who prepared the girls individually, and as a group, before they were sent out to be the automatons that they have proved themselves to be.
Having belatedly seen that suggestive cavorting with the chicken just once — today, but not on SBS TV Australia, which has a number of times in past weeks chosen to only show the silly disjointed gyrations of these girls, with bags over their heads, in the main Orthodox church in Moscow — clearly proves that SBS TV is Jew-directed, who want to convey that the girls were just being tomboyish on a frolic in a foreign country.
I try as well. We can achieve alot by defending Christ and exposing the truth.
Our voices combined, all over the world, will make a great difference. Internet has given us a great opportunity to bypass the Jewish-owned media, defending our Saviour and trying to restore a decent, just and moral society.
I know that the Jews employ and encourage all of their own to spread their propaganda on YouTube and other popular sites. Voting down exposed truths, getting people banned and so on.
We outnumber them by far and the only ones who can free us from their shackles and restore our freedom is us.
I listened recently to the radioshow of Hagmann and Hagmann report.
I guess the guys belong to the protestant church, but I don’t know what denomination.
Analyzing the political situation in the USA, they are clearly seeing the coming martial law and economic collapse and are blaming the “marxist” Obama for this “the Illuminati” and the “globalists,” much like Alex Jones is doing by not naming the Jewish Zionist cabal who put Obama in power.
And at the same time, they are shedding tears why USA is not supporting the Israel, the chosen people. they think the USA is shrinking into collapse because the government has “abandoned” the Israel state and is supporting the radical Muslims instead.
I have no words to describe the blindness and the stupidity (sorry for the word) but it is true of the protestant “Christians” in the USA. They are plainly supporting their oppressors and at the same time crying for losing their freedom.
In comparison with the Russian Orthodox Church where the believers in general are clearly seeing and pointing the true culprits–the Zionists Talmudic Jews, the protestant “Christians” in America are totally lost.
Perfect understanding of the incident and of course of what is between the lines.
In Russia, most of us consider that prison is the best place for the whores. And it is not the opinion of Christians only. The show failed and led to the wrong consequences.
Russians are fed up with the Western media, Western ideas, dreams, “stars,” democracy and ready to get back to their roots, history and traditions.
Some people in Moscow even fought the demonstrators who tried to support Pussy Riot in the metro station and gave them over to police. The result is unbelievable: people unite against evil, instead of criticizing the Church under the pressure of annoying mass media.
Anybody besides me notice how, in the part of the video where the three of them were all sitting inside that glass booth - that they all seemed to be smirking, as if they thought the whole thing was a joke?
P-Riot is not actually a “punk band”….They have no albums, no singles, no concert tours, or even local gigs. As far as I can tell, they are just a gang of whores who scream and strum on guitars that they know not how to even operate.
Also, in prior stunts, the band leader and three others had group sex in a public museum….
And in another, they filmed themselves in a grocery store, masturbating with chicken legs!
Throughout the trial, they smirked and giggles like demonic little sluts. Frankly, they got off too easy!
Is there any outrage within the ranks of Amerika’s apostate Christian “leadership” about PR’s anti-Christ desecration of Christ The Redeemer?
Let’s hear it from Franklin Graham, mega-church boy Joel Osteen, Charles Stanley, or perhaps the Southern Baptist Convention.
Big John Hagee? FAT chance there my friends.
They are too busy raking in the dough through their very lucrative television contracts, and subservience to Talmudic Jewry to have ANYTHING to say in support of the Russian Orthodox Church, much less Christ himself.
They get their cues from Jewry’s promoted “stars” such as Paul “Hey Jude” McCarthy and all the other sold-out “entertainers” who rallied behind the blasphemous PR.
The Judaized family values-voting churchwomen are far too busy reading Jewish promoted Mommy Porn such as “50 Shades of Grey,” “The Hunger Games,” and vampire books to voice any support of anyone who takes a stand against attacks on Christ.
The apostates are waiting on TV personalities like John Stewart and Bill Maher to guide them to the correct political analysis of this event.
Maybe Willard Romney will chime in since he is a “Latter Day saint”?
The only things I see these clowns supporting are more wars for the Jews, the Jewish entertainment business, walk-a-thon cancer fund raising SCAMS, junk food, and football/sports.
What will Amerika’s seemingly endless love affair with all things Talmudic bring to our shores?
Coming to a theater new you if current trends continue:
It will be interesting to see if these Jewesses actually serve any time. Or, will we see them holed up in the Ecuadorian Embassy in Moscow waiting for “asylum,” buying time for the media to move on while they’re given new identities in Israel?
Meanwhile music’s REAL freedom fighters, Bruce Springsteen and many others who have refused to play in Israel, are thrown under the bus Bradley Manning style, while the real crooks, the Julian Assange’s of the world, serve their “sentences” in a country club.
When I watched the video reference you provided I felt 7 years would not have been enough!
A great thanks to Bro Nat for linking these whores to the CIA and one of its front organisations.
They should have been put on trial for high treason. But I am fully aware of Putin`s continuous ride on a razor blade. He has to weigh many things He is walking in the footprints of Bismarck and he knows that politics is the art of the possible.
Putin`s Russia is the real target once Syria and Iran have fallen and Putin knows it. He is well advised to continue with his re-assurance policy in the Far East.
You are just about the only authentic religious/political website offering relief to weary Christians who are continually assaulted with Evil’s blasphemies on a daily basis. May God give you strength to keep up the fight.
When I saw the news on mainstream media, and the desecration of a Russian Orthodox Cathedral in Moscow, I was appalled and angered. Though I am a Roman Catholic American, I was angry and wanted to strike back.
Now that I see that President Putin certainly is a devout Christian and Lives by the Word of God — I thank and praise the Good Lord that he is leading Russia at this time.
May God continue to give him strength and wisdom to address the blatant evil that faces not only Russia but the entire world at this time.
Thank you for reminding us of the tragic history of Christ the Savior Cathedral.
It’s typical that Jewry demands eternal “sensitivity” (read: Goyim treading on eggshells) to their self-serving, fabricated, fairy-tale narrative, but exhibit only contempt for the historical tragedies suffered by others, particularly when these have been inflicted by Jews.
Below is an excerpt of what Jewess Miriam Elder of the Guardian wrote on August 17 regarding Pussy Riot’s invasion of the cathedral.
Note that there is not a single word about the original building (the construction of which was paid for by contributions from the entire Russian people) and its destruction in 1931 by her Jewish landsman, Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich:
“On 21 February four members of the band walked into the Cathedral of Christ the Saviour, a gaudy building built after the Soviet collapse that hosts Russia’s senior officials on major holidays…”
This distortion (yes, “historical revisionism” IS indeed acceptable when practiced by Jews) may work with moronic Amerikan feedbags, but not with anyone who has an actual knowledge of history and Russian culture.
What is even more interesting is that this Jewess’s hate-filled screed parallels almost exactly the invective that appeared in the Soviet press in the lead-up to the 1931 destruction of the building. Here are some examples quoted on the Cathedral’s official website:
“A massive wave of propaganda preceded the actual destruction. The newspapers wrote, “the Cathedral is grotesque and totally inartistic,” that “the Cathedral is a poisonous mushroom on Moscow’s face” and that it was “a source of slothfulness” and so forth…”
Less widely known is that Jew Lazar Kaganovich is said to have planned a similar fate for St. Basil’s Cathedral on Red Square, but was forced by Stalin to shelve his project after vigorous protests by Lunacharsky, the Soviet Minister of Culture and Education who was an ethnic Russian born in the Ukraine.
Interestingly, Lunacharsky also vehemently opposed the introduction of what he called “the dead Hebrew tongue” as a language of instruction in Soviet schools.
The anti-Christ nature of Jewry and the soul-rotted, Jew-led “West” becomes more obvious by the day. Pussy Riot is praised as a symbol of “democracy,” while Bradley Manning, a true man of conscience who took concrete steps to oppose aggression and war crimes (at great cost to himself), are demonized by Amerika and its bankster-led EU satraps, and are threatened with life imprisonment and death.
Somehow, I doubt that old slut Madonna (a.k.a. “Esther”) will soon “express support” for these prisoners of conscience.
@ Brother Nathanael —
– Thank you for the quote from Dostoevsky. I believe it was also he who said that “he who ceases to be a Christian ceases to be a Russian.”
In keeping with that, it’s clear that Amerikajewry has set about nothing less than redefining the very essence of “Russian-ness,” just as they have already redefined the identities of the Western nations enslaved to them — and look how well THAT is working out or the demoralized, decadent and debilitated peoples of the crumbling, bankster-ruled “democracies.”
One correction to your great words: the “wicked West,” should be: the wicked West under Zionist control.
The Pussy Riot show has been staged for the Zionist-controlled press in order to undermine Putin’s reputation, that was sooo obvious.
Kabbalistic Madonna is very silent about the outrageous discrimination and racism of all non-Jews expressed by the Oral Torah/Talmud: “a Goyim Gentile is just cattle who can only serve as a slave for the Jews.”
It is now time pop bands begin exposing the shameless Talmudic rabbinic hate literature, inside and outside whatever synagogue. Ideal would be the satanic/Jewish rock-band KISS to perform in the synagogue, screaming anti-Netanyahu lyrics.
This will not happen, since the globalist mindcontrollers are Jews who cherish their own form of racism and injustice, and who are very clever in hiding their real intentions.
I advise ALL readers to OPEN the video that The ‘Elder of Z’ has so thoughtfully attached for our education. It is a MUST SEE! All of the rest of the garbage these putrid rancid Godless demonic filthy nasty dirty jew whores performed - pales in the light of this mega blasphemy.
Note the pig/whore who performs the deed feels she must make her body displayed to all a-la Madonna fashion. Then after she chainsaw trashed the lifesize cross with the likeness of our Lord - she gives the arms up clenchd fist universal sign of triumph and as if that were no filthy enough - she then mocks Jesus even MORE as she mockingly mimics His position on the cross (now laying face down in the dirt)
2 years? That’s less than a teen experimenting with harmless weed gets for just HAVING a bag of in the States. He hurt nobody destroyed no private property - committed no blasphemy - uttered no obscenities - mocked no one’s faith - desecrted no icon - yet his life is ruined for no more than bad judgement. I would have given them TEN YEARS for their filth had it been in my power.
I was very touched by Steven’s appologist remarks. I was so relieved to know that it really wasn’t these whore’s fault but their evil handlers who “MADE ME DO IT”! In his eyes that were just naive impressionable children of God-apparantly just having a good time.
I saw many of the ilk of these woman in IsraHELL Steven - doing the same kind of thing on a routine basis - in ignorance of course.
You are looking for these ‘precocious naughty girls’ to repent - correct? Well, let me give you insight into the ’sign’ which will herald the event of their contriteness for their unconscionable filth and declaration as the sworn enemies of God.
The tyranny of the so-called Jews over the so-called Gentiles has been going on for thousands of years.
They have continually sought to make their tyranny absolute, never quite succeeding because, after all, who wants to be tyrannized?
So, if it is not overt, it is covert, meaning current events and history are lies for the same reason.
Communism was a gambit for total tyranny that failed. Imagine: a totalitarian control system, without religion, sold as a liberation mechanism.
It failed as a tool for global totalitarian control vehicle, although it came close, which is why there are so many wealthy capitalist Jews trying to liberate the proletariat of the world with it, despite all evidence it was a pathetic failure, again and again, in its advertised aims.
Zionism is the new approach to global hegomonic tyranny. If you think Zionism is about liberating a homeland for the kikes and not controlling the world from a criminal stronghold, you need to grow a brain, and quick.
I will give you my take on the article as requested. Very informative, accurate, and hard-hitting as they usually are. 5 stars.
However, I could perhaps alter Nathanael’s description of those poor “misled” - “incorrect” young Jew “artists” forced to do those horrid unconscionable acts by their “handlers.”
A learned man of eloquence and propriety, Br. Nathanael called them “useless.”
I feel it was not a completely comprehensive description. I think that closer to the minimum truth would be “LESS THAN USELESS.”
However, after watching that she-animal destroy the cross and cruelly mock the image of our Lord, I personally would be inclined to add to the description, lest there be any misunderstanding about their intent:
An astounding piece of work dear Brother Nathanael. God Bless you.
I also have to thank Telemachos for bringing this latest atrocity to our attention. I could not believe my own eyes.
I thought the three Russians whores were bad, but this is, simply put, in another league altogether.
Never before have I witnessed anything as vile and appalling as this : A half-naked whore in Kiev chops down a great crucifix, and memorial to the victims of Stalin, with a chainsaw! And she then laughs about it for all the world to see, while shaking her naked breasts for the cameras!
If there ever was a hate crime recorded on camera, this is it. We can now better understand the hatred the wicked few have towards that which we consider to be holy, just and good. We know it is a fact now.
We can no longer be in any doubt that there is an organised plan to destroy Christiany completely, utterly and totally - with plenty of money to back it up.
But we all also know that crimes against Christians in the Middle East - crimes we rarely, if ever, see or get to hear about (wonder why?) - makes the act of the whore in Ukraine pale in comparison.
I imagine that there are many Ukrainian nationalists who would be VERY interested in having a “frank discussion” with that chainsaw-wielding skank and all of her relatives and friends, and who may even make house-calls in order to do so.
If these ranting whores knew that indulging their hysterical adolescent narcissism and desire to deprive others of the sacred and transcendental element in life might result in their becoming quadriplegics who eat baby food through a straw and crap into a bag for the rest of their futile lives, these vile scum just might think TWICE.
Russians, Ukrainians, Byelorussians — at this point, it doesn’t really matter. Slavdom itself is under attack, because it will not bend to satanic Jewmerika and its mania for destruction.
There is one set of unintended consequences to be drawn from the outrage committed in Kiev by the demon-possessed, chainsaw wielding She-Beast: Russia has been enormously helped by this act of spiritual and cultural terrorism.
Why and how?
1) This crime was committed on the soil of a country other than Russia, short-circuiting the transparent attempt by Western propaganda organs to portray the Pussy Riot imbroglio as a “protest” action focused on solely on Putin and supposedly “oppressive” Russian state policy.
2) The vile and visually shocking nature of this act can only reflect negatively upon the terrorists of Pussy Riot as it puts their “protest art” into its proper context. This underlines the legitimacy of the action (in the eyes of the world) that Russian law has taken against PR and creates sympathy for Russia and Putin.
This atrocity will stick to Pussy Riot like glue, even if they had no overt part in it and even if they attempt to verbally disassociate themselves from it.
It is a propaganda disaster that undoes all the studied agitprop antics they and their handlers have carefully staged hitherto, and show these “poor, innocent girls” for what they and their ilk really are.
3) The attack on the memorial cross will be seen by the Ukrainian people as a desecration not merely of their religion, but also of the memory of their martyred countrymen.
This will inflame their nationalism — and not against “the Muscovites” for a change — but against forces that are enemies of both Russia AND Ukraine.
The Kiev chainsaw massacre will be perceived by Ukrainians as part of a transnational culture war that is directed at their own nationhood, as well as that of Russia. This in turn may well lead to…
4) A shift in Ukrainian public opinion away from Jewed Amerika and the decadent and tyrannical EU (which are on record as supporters of actions such as those taken by PR and the Kiev She-Beast) and TOWARD sympathy for- and some form of rapprochement with Moscow.
This impulse can occur spontaneously among the people in spite of the Ukrainian government’s hitherto pursued policy of toadying to Amerika. This in turn can create…
5) A shift of the regional balance of power in favor of Russia.
What was it that Mephistopheles said in Goethe’s “Faust?”
Oh yes, I remember: Something about his intending to commit acts of evil and nevertheless being compelled by God — against Mephistopheles’ own demonic will — to serve the Good.
Notice how they drag us into the mud by making us use the term Pussy Riot.
The Jews of Hollywood are infamous for this, with their degrading movies, such as Meet the Fockers. In their sneaky way, they force us to use their obscenities. And then there is the teabagger term used for the Tea Party.
They try to shove our heads into their depravity. I pray for Putin, given that he is being targeted by the Jew-owned Obama Administration.
Great observation about the disgusting manipulative degradation all of us are forced into.
All I can suggest at this point is put on the hipwaders and the protective gloves to the elbows, and dab some mentholatum under your nose to neutralize some of the stink of sewage, gangrene and corruption, and grab a shovel.
Some bits and pieces:
From Interfax: All-Russian Muslim Board opposes leniency for Pussy Riot
There should be no leniency for the Pussy Riot activists, Mukhammedgali Khuzin, the head of the executive committee of the All-Russian Muslim Board, said.
“If these women had walked into our mosques, we would have given them to our old women for a set of educational measures and them would have given them over to the law enforcement agencies and would have seen to it that an investigation was conducted,” Khuzin said. http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=news&div=9689
There’s a thought.
Do we Christians still have some tough, no nonsense grannies left in the world who have a stash of strong soap to wash wicked mouths out with?
Pussy Riot jailing fails to boost street protests. (Fatigued Russians are yawning. )
Cyber outrage against the jailing of the anti-Kremlin feminist punk band Pussy Riot failed to spill onto the streets, with the turnout at the first opposition rally to follow the verdict on Sunday being dismally low compared to previous protests.
But this time, absence mattered more than presence. Only about 500 protesters, by Radio Liberty’s count – the only estimate available – gathered at the rally by the White House in Moscow, compared to tens of thousands who came to previous major protests going on since December.
Western, particularly European, liberal hypocrisy further exposed.
It’s not enough for Germany and other countries to terrorize, prosecute and send historians to jail for thought crimes and “holocaust denial” under hate laws, it turns out that the Russian criminal statutes mandating imprisonment for acts of hooliganism in Christian holy sites, like cathedrals (and religious holy sites in general) is no more draconian than that found in Germany and Austria.
Russia’s FM responds to criticism over Pussy Riot sentence
The legislation of some western countries also envisages imprisonment for acts of hooliganism in cathedrals, Russia’s Foreign Ministry spokesman Alexander Lukashevich said Saturday.
He gave an example of Germany and Austria where the legislation envisages sentence up to 3 years and 6 months for insulting feelings of believers. The law of both countries also envisages money fines for such a wrong-doing, he added.
Interference in the Pussy Riot trial is impermissible, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov reiterates during a Monday press conference in Helsinki.
“There must be no interference in the court work. One may agree or disagree [with the judgment] personally but interference in the court work is impermissible,” he said.
The minister also said that three members of Pussy Riot who were convicted on Thursday for an anti-Putin song in a Moscow cathedral in February would be able to appeal their sentence of two years in a high security prison.
“Let me remind those who are claiming that our court wasn’t making an independent decision that before the verdict was announced the president of the Russian Federation advocated clemency toward those young women, and the leadership of the Russian Orthodox Church had taken a similar position.
“In any case, no one has abolished the judicial procedures, there is the possibility of filing an appeal, and so let’s not draw any hasty conclusions or least of all stage any hysterics,” Lavrov told a news conference after talks with Finnish Foreign Minister Erkki Tuomioja.
Lavrov was commenting on complaints that the sentence was an unjustifiably harsh punishment for the three musicians’ performance in the Cathedral of Christ the Savior, a song in the form of a prayer asking the Virgin Mary to drive out Vladimir Putin, who was then running for president.
Lavrov claimed that there exist laws in European countries punishing behavior in churches that offends worshipers.
“As regards whether this punishment is proportional or disproportionate [to the offense the three performers were charged with], I can just cite the factual side of the matter. In Germany, blasphemy in churches is punishable with up to three years in prison, in France with two years, in Austria with six months, in Finland, as far as I know, blasphemy in churches is punishable with two years,” he said.
The reason I asked, is because I know us Orthodox Slavs had our problems/differences with the Catholic Slavs.
Since I know this ill will between religious differences is still apparent today, and you don’t have to be rocket scientists to figure it out.
Again not saying everyone is to blame, however a few bad apples spoil the whole bunch. Again if I visit a certain Slavic country which my country has had its issues with, you’ll still feel the tension between the two. However this is evident, throughout Europe.
Also I know even if Bishops, Patriarchs, presidents try to mend the differences between the two nations, people never forget.. or as is the case now (or from what I’ve seen how people react).
The Very Reverend Archpriest Vsevolod Chaplin is the chairman of the Synodal Department for the Cooperation of Church and Society of the Moscow Patriarchate, in addition to being a member of the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation and rector of St. Nicholas on the Three Hills Church, Moscow.
Father Vsevolod, Viktor Bondarenko, the founder of the “Russia for All” movement, and publicist Roman Bagdasarov gathered in June in the editorial office of The New Times to debate “Pussy Riot” case — The New Times, 25 June 2012 from Russian Religious News, Stetson University.
During the discussion, Fr. Vsevolod quite succinctly puts the instigative Judeo-West’s collective feet to the fire over actions which dangerously offend against religious feelings, and winds up owning the liberals who were pushing him in the debate.
He made the clearest statement regarding the overarching issue at stake under the criminal hooliganism statutes which include religious hatred, as it pertained to Orthodox Christianity in Russia.
Incidentally, these statutes have been on the Russian books since the 1920s, undergoing revisions and amendments over time, and were often abused under Soviet ‘jurisprudence.’
However, they are not without their long-standing parallels in American society and administration of justice. These are not new “Putinisms” which the Western media seems to imply.
Fr. Vsevolod states: “The problem is not what and when they did it. The problem is in their position. They spoke out against Putin earlier also, but there was not such a negative reaction.
“In the church of Christ the Savior the name of God was associated with a vulgar word. Impermissible actions were performed in the church.
“Understand, a great deal has been said against the patriarch, and you yourself know how much has been said against Putin. But here it is that a blasphemous action was committed.
“Actions which offend religious feelings are very, very dangerous and now blood is flowing in the world because of them. We know that it is after such incidents, as for example the burning of the Quran, this happens.
“It is because of this that it is necessary to react with all severity. It is the government’s business how it reacts; the church is not the investigator and not the court. But it is necessary to do everything so that such actions will be absolutely excluded.
Fr. Vsevolod Chaplain’s well articulated viewpoint is very helpful in filling in some of the truer picture concerning the Hooliganism statutes for us here in America. He is saying, in other words, that Pussy Riot (and its Judeo-Western-loving enablers) were deliberately provoking a violent social reaction.
I’m all for freedom of speech in whatever form it comes, but I also know that the state government has a responsibility to maintain public order and security and prevention of violence.
I also stand behind the principle that freedom of expression does not mean one can just yell “Fire” in the middle of a crowded theater for the hell of it, or that shooting up a theater full of people can’t be called “political protest art.”
What can we equate the criminal hooliganism statutes to?
America does have a kindred “Fighting Words Doctrine” and supporting constitutional case law which parallels the issues pointed out by Fr. Vsevolod concerning Pussy Riot’s criminal elements of hooliganism, and claims of freedom of political speech vis-à-vis the public good.
Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, 315 U.S. 568 (1942)
“There are certain well-defined and narrowly limited classes of speech, the prevention and punishment of which have never been thought to raise any constitutional problem.
“These include the lewd and obscene, the profane [blasphemous], the libelous, and the insulting or ‘fighting’ words - those which by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace.
“It has been well observed that such utterances are no essential part of any exposition of ideas, and are of such slight social value as a step to truth that any benefit that may be derived from them is clearly outweighed by the social interest in order and morality.”
Adopted by the State Duma on May 24, 1996
Adopted by the Federation Council on June 5, 1996
Federal Law No. 64-FZ of June 13, 1996 on the Enforcement of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation
Chapter 24. Crimes Against Public Security
Article 213. Hooliganism
1. Hooliganism, that is, a gross violation of the public order which expresses patent contempt for society, attended by violence against private persons or by the threat of its use, and likewise by the destruction or damage of other people’s property, shall be punishable by compulsory works for a term of 120 to 180 hours, or by corrective labour for a term of six to twelve months, or by arrest for a term of four to six months, or by deprivation of liberty for a term of up to two years.
2. The same act, if it is:
a) committed by a group of persons, a group of persons in a preliminary conspiracy, or an organized group;
b) connected with resistance to a representative of authority or to any other person who fulfills the duty of protecting the public order or who prevents violation of the public order;
c) committed by a person who was earlier convicted of hooliganism-
shall be punishable by compulsory works for a term of 180 to 240 hours, or by corrective labour for a term of one to two years, or by deprivation of liberty for a term of up to five years.
I stand with you against the decadent wicked homosexual west, Bro Nathanael.
Be merciful though, ALOT of good music comes out of artists like Madonna, for example, despite their sinful ways. We must denounce their perversion, yes, yet at the same time, always hold out a hand for repentence.
Remember, Jesus came to save sinners. Perhaps, in time, they will become our greatest allies in the war against the Zionist West.
These are the very people who can turn the tide in our favor…
“The head of the Russian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Kirill, visited Poland in an effort to achieve national and religious reconciliation of Russian and Polish nations. The visit became historical for the two countries. It marked the victory of sensible forces in Poland and the unification of churches that actively oppose homosexuality, permissiveness and other “liberal values”.
Noteworthy, Russia’s late Patriarch Alexy II received such an invitation a while back too. However, Alexy II had to decline it because of disagreements with the Vatican on the issue of Greek-Catholics and proselytism. Patriarch Kirill put those problems aside, which means that the visit primarily had political, rather religious goals.
“I hope that my visit will make a modest contribution to the improvement of relations between Poland and the countries where the Russian Orthodox Church serves,” said the patriarch, after landing in Poland.
On Friday, Patriarch Kirill of Russia and President of the Polish Bishops’ Conference, Archbishop Jozef Michalik, signed the first-ever joint paper with a message of reconciliation to the Polish and Russian nations.”
Yes this is what I’m hearing on these “Judeo-Christian” broadcasts like the Hagmanns, coast2coast — “the bad Illuminaty, the marxist Obama and the bad muslims are waging war against the Jews and the Christians”– is the greatest stupidity imaginable or Jewish infiltration in some cases.
Did these guys looked at the ruling class names in Zionist America or at least in their local towns and counties, the press owners? What persecution of Jews in USA are they talking about since even the Federal Reserve is owned by Jews?!
I think most of these Judeo-Christian broadcasts is directed towards misleading the Americans with some level of education, but not enough; and the protestant communities in general with so much success that most of them are so brainwashed that are ready to support the crimes of Israel and to wage war against the ‘bad’ Muslims throughout the Middle East for the glory of the zionists, war against terror.
And O these Orthodox Russians supporting Assad are very bad for them, too, how they dare?! For many of them repentance means not betraying Israel because God will punish the American nation, you see.
Unfortunately the picture is very frustrating as you can see, and guys as Brother Nathanael are so rare these days you can count them in your fingers…
Universally admired, Pussy Riot (or PR for short) have been promoted as superstars. But what are they? A rock or punk group they are not.
A British journalist marvelled: they produce no music, no song, no painting, nada, rien, nothing.
How can they be described as “artists”? This was a severe test for their supporters, but they passed it with flying honours: that famous lover-of-art, the US State Department, paid for their first ever single being produced by The Guardian out of some images and sounds.
We are able to stomach obscenity and blasphemy; I am a great admirer of Notre Dame de Fleurs by Jean Genet, who combined both…Letov wrote poetry, full of obscenity but it still was poetry, while the PR have nothing but Public Relations.
Hell-bent on publicity, but artistically challenged, three young women from Russia decided – well, it sounds like a limerick.
They stole a frozen chicken from a supermarket and used it as dildo; they filmed the act, called it “art” and placed it on the web. (It is still there).
Their other artistic achievements were an orgy in a museum and a crude presentation of an erect prick.
Even in these dubious pieces of art their role was that of technical staff: the glory went to a Russian-Israeli artist Plucer-Sarno of Mevasseret Zion, who claimed the idea, design and copyright for himself and collected a major Russian prize.
The future PR members got nothing and were described by Plucer as “ambitious provincials on the make”, or worse.
Lately they have tried to ride on a bandwagon of political struggle. That was another flop.
They poured a flood of obscene words on Putin - in Red Square, in subway (underground) stations - with zero effect.
They weren’t arrested, they weren’t fined, just chased away as a nuisance. And they did not attract the attention of people.
It is important to remember that Putin is an avowed enemy of Russian oligarchs, owners of the major bulk of Russian media and providers of the Moscow literati, so they print on a daily basis so much anti-Putin invective, that it’s lost its shock value.
You can’t invent a new diatribe against Putin – it has been already said and published. And Putin practically never interferes with the freedom of the press….
Eventually the young viragos were mobilised for an attack on the Church. By that time they were willing to do anything for their bit of publicity. And the anti-Church campaign started a few months ago, quite suddenly as if by command.
The Russian Church had 20 years of peace, recovering after the Communist period, and it was surprised by ferocity of the attack.
Though this subject calls for longer exposition, let us be brief. After the collapse of the USSR, the Church remained the only important spiritual pro-solidarity force in Russian life. The Yeltsin and Putin administrations were as materialist as the communists; they preached and practiced social Darwinism of neo-Liberal kind.
The Church offered something beside the elusive riches on earth. Russians who lost the glue of solidarity previously provided by Communists eagerly flocked to the alternative provided by the Church.
The government and the oligarchs treated the Church well, as the Church had a strong anti-Communist tendency, and the haves were still afraid of the Reds leading the have-nots.
The Church flourished, many beautiful cathedrals were rebuilt, many monasteries came back after decades of decay. The newly empowered church became a cohesive force in Russia.
As it became strong, the Church began to speak for the poor and dispossessed; the reformed Communists led by the Church-going Gennadi Zuganov, discovered a way to speak to the believers.
A well-known economist and thinker, Michael Khazin, predicted that the future belongs to a new paradigm of Red Christianity, something along the lines of Roger Garaudy’s early thought. The Red Christian project is a threat to the elites and a hope for the world, he wrote.
Besides, the Russian church took a very Russian and anti-globalist position.
This probably hastened the attack, but it was just a question of time when the global anti-Christian forces would step forward and attack the Russian Church like they attacked the Western Church.
As Russia entered the WTO and adopted Western mores, it had to adopt secularization. And indeed the Russian Church was attacked by forces that do not want Russia to be cohesive: the oligarchs, big business, the media lords, the pro-Western intelligentsia of Moscow, and Western interests which naturally prefer Russia divided against itself.
This offensive against the Church began with some minor issues: the media was all agog about Patriarch’s expensive watch, a present from the then President Medvedev. Anti-religious fervour was high among liberal opposition that demonstrated against Putin before the elections and needed a new horse to flog.
A leading anti-Putin activist Viktor Shenderovich [Russian Jew, political satirist] said he would understand if the Russian Orthodox priests were slain like they were in 1920s. Yet another visible figure among the liberal protesters, Igor Eidman [Russian Jew, sociologist], exclaimed, “exterminate the vermin”- the Russian Church – in the rudest biological terms.
The alleged organiser of the PR, Marat Gelman, a Russian Jewish art collector, has been connected with previous anti-Christian art actions which involved icon-smashing, imitation churches of enemas.
His – and PR’s problem was that it was difficult to provoke reaction of the Church. PR made two attempts to provoke public indignation in the second cathedral of Moscow, the older Elochovsky [Epiphany] Cathedral; both times they were expelled but not arrested.
The third time, they tried harder; they went to the St. Savior Cathedral that was demolished by Lazar Kaganovich in 1930s and rebuilt in 1990s; they added more blasphemy of the most obscene kind, and still they were allowed to leave in peace.
Police tried their best to avoid arresting the viragos, but they had no choice after PR uploaded a video of their appearance in the cathedrals with an obscene soundtrack.
During the trial, the defence and the accused did their worst to antagonize the judge by threatening her with the wrath of the United States (sic!) and by defiantly voicing anti-Christian hate speeches.
The judge had no choice but to find the accused guilty of hate crime (hooliganism with religious hate as the motive).
The prosecution did not charge the accused with a more serious hate crime “with intent to cause religious strife”, though it could probably be made to stick. (It would call for a stiffer sentence; swastika-drawers charged with intent to cause strife receive five years of jail).
Two years’ sentence is quite in line with prevailing European practice. For much milder anti-Jewish hate talk, European countries customarily sentence offenders to two-to-five years of prison for the first offence.
The Russians applied hate crime laws to offenders against Christian faith, and this is probably a Russian novelty. The Russians proved that they care for Christ as much as the French care for Auschwitz, and this shocked the Europeans who apparently thought ‘hate laws’ may be applied only to protect Jews and gays.
The Western governments call for more freedom for the anti-Christian Russians, while denying it for holocaust revisionists in their midst.
The anti-Putin opposition flocked to support PR. A radical charismatic opposition leader, the poet Eduard Limonov wrote that the opposition made a mistake supporting PR, as they antagonise the masses; the chasm between the masses and the opposition grows.
But his voice was crying in the wilderness, and the rest of the opposition happily embraced the PR cause, trying to turn it into a weapon against Putin. The Western media and governments also used it to attack Putin.
A Guardian editorial called on Putin to resign. Putin called for clemency for PR, and the government was embarrassed by the affair. But they were left with no choice: the invisible organisers behind PR wanted to have the viragos in jail, and so they did.
Commercially, they hit jackpot. With support of Madonna and the State Department, they are likely to leave jail ready for a world tour and photo ops at the White House. They registered their name as a trade mark and began to issue franchises.
And their competitors, the Femen group (whose art is showing off their boobs in unusual places) tried to beat PR by chopping down a large wooden cross installed in memory of Stalin’s victims. Now the sky is the limit.
In August, vacation season, when there is not much hard news and newspaper readers are at the seashore or countryside, the PR trial provided much needed entertainment for man and beast. Hopefully it will drop from the agenda with the end of the silly season, but do not bet on it.
I didn’t go into any great depth on the Russian laws, charges and conviction, or their court procedure, but simply wanted to show that Russia did not have laws which were much different from other countries, especially in Europe.
My other intention was to point out, too, that even here in America, we do have the Fighting Words doctrine which conveys a similar spirit. I am not a lawyer or even a paralegal, although I can basically read and interpret substantive criminal law at a level which a police officer would find practical.
I think I posted an older version of the criminal statute, which was originally passed by the Duma in 1996. Below is a more recent translation of the revised Criminal Code of the Russian Federation as amended 2004 from another site, which does stipulate deprivation of liberty for up to seven years.
There might even be later revisions available, but consistently in the press, there has been mention of the possibility of the seven year sentencing in the pre-trial press ruminations.
Also, comparing the original and newer versions, eliminated was the judge’s discretionary choice of types of penalties within a stated range of four kinds. Amendment of the statute restricted the punishment to just one.
Under the most recent legal revisions, the judge is now mandated to simply hand down a sentence of deprivation of liberty for a certain period of time, but not to exceed a seven year term with no other discretionary options.
The prosecution was pushing for three years, the court exercised its discretion within a mandatory range in handing down a lighter sentence — two years minus time served, for a total of 19 months.
Here is the most recent version I could find. The three miscreant woman were convicted under Article 213(2) :
Article 213. Hooliganism
1. Hooliganism, that is, a gross violation of the public order manifested in patent contempt of society and attended by the use of weapons or articles used as weapons -
shall be punishable by compulsory works for a term of 180 to 240 hours, or by corrective labour for a term of one to two years, or by deprivation of liberty for a term of up to five years.
2. The same deed [Hooliganism as defined in Section 1] committed by a group of persons in a preliminary conspiracy, or by an organized group, or connected with resistance to a representative of authority or to any other person who fulfills the duty of protecting the public order or who suppresses violation of the public order -
The English version of the Criminal Procedure Code of the Russian Federation is also linked at the above site.
In reading statutes, there are key words indicating particular judicial actions under the rule of law, and whether those actions by the judge are mandatory or discretionary. In English, these two words are “shall” and “may.”
The claim and complaint of the liberals and the defendents themselves is that they should have been tried under Russian administrative law, and not the criminal code. I suppose the case could be made either way, and I believe there was some question on the part of the prosecution about this to begin with, until I looked further through Russia’s religious laws.
Though the charge against the women is one of hooliganism under the elements of Section 213(2) of the Criminal Code of the RF, the offence in this case is aggravated under Article 3 paragraph 6 of the Law on Freedom of Conscience, Religion and Religious Association of the Russian Federation, which prohibits actions that are insulting to the religious feelings of believers especially when these take place “immediately adjacent to objects of religious veneration”.
The relevant sections read as follows (as found on CESNUR):
“Actions hindering the realisation of the right to freedom of conscience and freedom of creed, including actions entailing coercion of an individual, calculated insults of the feelings of citizens in connection with their attitudes toward religion, the destruction of property, and threats of such actions, are forbidden and are to be prosecuted by law.
“The conducting of public activities and distribution of texts and images insulting the religious feelings of citizens immediately adjacent to objects of religious veneration is forbidden.”
Criminal liability for actions done contrary to Article 3 paragraph 6 of the Law on Freedom of Conscience, Religion and Religious Association of the Russian Federation is provided under Article 26
“Violation of the law of the Russian Federation on freedom of conscience and on religious associations involves criminal, administrative and other liability in accordance with the laws of the Russian Federation”. http://www.cesnur.org/testi/Russia.htm
We aren’t familiar with the 1890s term ‘hooliganism,’ which is simply disruptive or unlawful behavior such as rioting, bullying, and vandalism in the primary sense; European soccer mob riots are common forms of “hooliganism” particularly pervasive in the UK.
In America, we really don’t have hooliganism as an urban social phenomenon despite our sports obsession, outside of particular incidents in San Francisco, Boston and elsewhere excepted, for whatever reasons, mostly because I think America is so large, and major cities much farther apart, than what is in Britain and the European countries.
Criminal street gangs, malicious flash mobs, the Mexican drug war lords, some US congressional meetings might be the closest forms.
The word came into use about the same time as Manchester’s street gangs were gaining notoriety in British society. The word first appeared in print in London police-court reports in 1894 referring to the name of a gang of youths in the Lambeth area of London—the Hooligan Boys, and later—the O’Hooligan Boys.
Later, as the meaning of the word shifted slightly, none of the possible alternatives had precisely the same undertones of a person, usually young, who belongs to an informal group and commits acts of vandalism or criminal damage, starts fights, and who causes disturbances and acts of violence, but is not a thief.
In the Soviet Union the word became more politicized. Khuligan was then used to refer to scofflaws or political dissenters.“Hooliganism” was listed as a criminal offense and used as a catch-all charge for prosecuting any unapproved behavior, including what we would consider legitimate dissent.
Mathias Rust of West Germany was convicted of hooliganism, among other things, for his 1987 Cessna landing in Red Square after breaking Soviet air space.
I’m old enough to have remembered this world changing antic, and it helped accelerate an end to the Cold War. I applauded this kid’s crazy, quixotic courage then, and I do now. He had a simple, but magnificent dream of somehow building a bridge from West to East through the Iron Curtain.
Rust was man enough in his late teens to accept any consequences, including the risk of being shot down by the Soviet air force. He served four years in a Soviet prison, as I recall, but he became a true “international symbol.” He and his Cesna had ultimately punched a hole in the vaunted Soviet air defenses.
Google Mathias Rust’s story, and see what an ultimately cheap, commericial, morally mercenary fraud these she-hooligans are.
Anyway, there is nothing unusual or oppressive about these Russian laws. These are public order offences of the sort that exist in all countries. The Russian laws are, in fact, more lenient than similar laws concerning public order in many countries, including our own, especially if Chosenites gets their noses tweaked.
And, we, particularly Germans, are all too familiar with the criminalization of legitimate historical revisionism, and scientific and scholastic examination (”holocaust denial”) if it happens to touch on the Tribe’s Holocau$t dogma in many countries. Just ask Rudolf Germar.
67-year-old Ernst Zuendel, was sentenced to 5 years in prison for violating Germany’s law against denying the Holocaust.
Actually, he had been convicted on 14 counts of — as the BBC put it — “inciting racial hatred” and “denying that the Nazis killed six million Jews during World War II.”
All this despite the fact that Ernst had spent much of his adult life in Canada — having lived and worked there since 1958, had never been a “Nazi,” and where he wrote a little book called “The Hitler We Loved and Why.”
But Zionist Occupied Germany was seeking extradition for nothing that actually occured on German soil under its own holocaust denial laws, and for something which no sane person would actually call a crime, the grounds being that he was running a web site denying the existence of the Holocaust, which in Canada at the time wasn’t a crime, but reading his Canadian website on the Internet in Germany was, and still is.
After dithering for quite awhile, under pressure from the Chosenites, the Canadian authorities decided he was a security threat in 2005, after keeping him for two years in near isolation while deciding what to do (or Jewish brains did for them and pushed it through), and sent him back to Germany.
A Federal Court ruled (in language taken right from the ADL/Bnai Brith activist handbook against Antisemitism) that his so-called anti-Semitic and hatred-inciting activities were “not only a threat to Canada’s national security, but also a threat to the international community of nations.”
The threat to Canadian national security baffles me, unless they thought that Canada’s bad-tempered bully of a neighbor, Jewmerica, would invade if they didn’t hand him over to the Germans.
Since then, Zionist Occupied Germany is hoping to make denying the Holocaust a crime across the whole of the European Union, having made terrific progress through the expediency of financial and economic blackmail, and makes it a condition of joining the EU as one of the legal and progressive hoops which aspiring countries must jump through to become EU members, whether these countries actually want to or not.
In France it is a crime punishable by imprisonment of up to one year to sunbathe nude or topless in Paris on the banks of the Seine or to wear a swimming costume in a Paris park even on a hot day.
What about merely uttering blasphemous words in public away from any religious center? Look to Poland for the stiffist of European blasphemy legislation. If convicted, a person faces two years in jail or a very hefty fine.
Doda, a Polish feminist entertainer, made the blasphemous claim in public that the Bible was written by drunks, and prosecution was sought. One organisation dedicated to protecting Christian values was quick to explain that it also hurt the feelings of the Jews.
Supplicatory Service and Rally in Moscow in Defense of the Church April 2012
Especially see the Russian news video clip of the large assembly of about 65,000 faithful at Christ the Savior Cathedral Moscow, which you won’t see in the Western media. Quite a bit of the video doesn’t need a translation.
Besides the Christ the Savior Cathedral incident, the newsclip describes other incidents of hooliganism and vandalism in the Russian churches as well as in the wider society.
Since the conviction of the three Pussy Riot women, vandalism and graffitti of churches have increased :
A public moleben (supplicatory service) in defense of the faith, profaned shrines, and the Church and her good name was served on April 22, 2012, following the celebration of the Divine Liturgy for Thomas Sunday at the Cathedral of Christ the Savior in Moscow.
Before the moleben, a reliquary with a piece of the Lord’s Robe and a Nail from the Cross, along with several sacred objects that had been profaned, was carried in procession around the church.
More than 65,000 come to pray in defense of faith (Stunning beautiful photos of Christians meeting in a large dignified crowd for prayer and supplication to erase the horrid and disgusting images of ‘those women’ from our own sight)
There was also a call for molebens to be served in defense of the Faith in churches throughout Russia, the other Orthodox nations, and the Orthodox diaspora throughout the world. Millions attended.
Millions attended in their respective church parishes across Russia and around the world.
Up to 3 years: Pussy Riot copycats booted from German cathedral may face jail (VIDEO)
Four people who stormed Germany’s Cologne Cathedral during services, wearing masks and carrying signs showing solidarity with the jailed members of Pussy Riot, have been charged with disturbing a religious service and may face prison.
Three men and one woman – all in their twenties – were colorfully dressed, shouted slogans, sang and carried a banner demanding, “Free Pussy Riot and all prisoners”.
According to German media reports, Cologne Cathedral Bishop Heiner Koch, who was leading the service, quietly observed the protest by the altar.
After activists were removed, he asked his congregation to pray for Pussy Riot, and for the Russian people in general.
Video of the incident posted on YouTube by one of the protesters shows cathedral officials quickly and brutally forcing the activists out of the service, knocking over stands along the way.
Undaunted, the group continued their protest outside the cathedral. Police present said that the protesters did not resist arrest, and were later charged with disturbing the peace and disrupting a religious service. http://rt.com/news/pussy-riot-support-germany-111/
In the same article, the cross on Independence Hill in front of Kiev’s central square felled by the Ukrainian FEMEN activist with a chainsaw turned out to be a Catholic one, not Orthodox as she had apparently believed. In any case, the symbolic felling of the cross was dubbed “Trash Prayer.”
I have a question regarding Russia I hope that you can help me with. We are aware, of course, that almost every country in the world has a Rothschild Zionist controlled Central bank, including of course the Fed and the Bank of England.
Indeed one of the first things the Zionists did after invading Libya was to establish their tentacle in that country. This leave I believe only Syria, Iran and North Korea.
So, this would indicate that Russia (and the old Soviet republics) also has a Rothschild Zionist controlled central bank. What do you think Putin will do about this?
There is no way any nation can be free of these parasites if they allow them to create them to create money out of thin air and lend it to the people of that nation and indeed the government of that nation as a debt.
If the government of Russia were to issue its own currency (like Lincoln did in the US) that would be a real slap in the face of the Zionists. Do you think that this is likely?
We can now better understand that the girls/whores of PR didn’t act alone.
And we can now also better understand why they were smirking like devils all the time behind bars : For they knew that they had hit the jackpot and become international superstars - heroines and fighters for truth, freedom and justice.
What a joke. It makes me feel sick!
It truly astounds me how little we dumbed down Goys of the West know about the true goings on in the Orthodox East, but we are now beginning to wake up to that fact and why we are being kept in the dark by the wicked few - to stop us from ridding the West from wickedness through the obvious method … true Christianity!
I have also noticed the lack of headlines we’ve seen in the news about the whores of FEMEN lately.
It seems to me that the chopping down of the great crucifix in Kiev is something that it is best not to talk about - as it would make the three whores in PR look bad!
“The U.S. Government can buy back the FED at any time for $450 million (per Congressional Record).
If we bought it, we would pocket over $450 million dollars in bonds the FED and the government own. So the real cost is nothing! The U.S. Treasury could then collect all the profit on our money instead of the shareholders of the FED receiving the profit.
The $4 Trillion of U.S. debt could be exchanged dollar-for-dollar with U.S. non-interest bearing currency when the debt becomes due. There would be no inflation because there would be no additional currency in circulation.
According to the Constitution, Congress is to control the printing of money, keeping the amount of inflation or deflation in check. If Congress isn’t doing their job, they should be voted out of office.”
I’d been working out the Femen thing, and read your point about not much being heard from them because it would make Wussy Riot look bad.
The clip of the earlier Femen assault on Patriarch Kirill is really something, and having “Kill Kirll” on her back should leave no doubts that this is just benign stuff, without much planning.
One of the RT commentators made a great observation about it being in English for better publicity instead of Russian or Ukrainian, and that someone would have had to write it on her back.
The clip is 10 seconds long. All the action happened in the last 5 seconds. She was quick, the security guards were really fast.
But the fleet-footed sub-deacon or deacon who made the body check so the security guard chasing her could grab her, blocked the view of her bare upper torso with the back of his left shoulder, arm and sleeve, and then just swoops her away with the entire action taking around 3 seconds, was really impressive.
He was most intent on shielding her nudity from view particularly of the monastics, of which the His Holiness is, along with the bishops and priests of his immediate travel party, which suggests to me that he wasn’t some security type in a cassock. Since Kiev was hosting the trip, our hero of assertive modesty was probably a Ukrainian deacon or sub-deacon.
Wow, what reflexes and thinking on one’s feet. It should be made into a training tape.
Patriarch Kirill’s grace under pressure and dispassion, along with the clergy closest to him, is quite notable, too.
You wrote: “And we can now also better understand why they were smirking like devils all the time behind bars : For they knew that they had hit the jackpot and become international superstars - heroines and fighters for truth, freedom and justice.”
Yep. Anti-capitalist, anti-materialist “subversive action” of the three young ladies has paid off: At least one, and probably all three had Jew lawyers; now they have Jew PR and entertainment managers, and Jew financial managers and investment planners.
Interview and book deals will probably line up while they are in prison, next will come screen rights. They have made it onto the level of global Jew-owned Hollyweird global entertainment family, for the proverbial 15 minutes of fame, anyway.
I have to use Wussy Riot now because the group is trademarking their name, and I would have to hunt the keyboard for the annoying ‘all rights reserved’ symbol of an R with a circle around it along with the brand name — Pussy Riot®. See what I mean?
Anyway, the whores have struck Jewish gold. First they get food, shelter, medical care, clothing for two years, and probably child care for the one who is a mother, at state expense.
If this was Imperial Russia, they would have had a full time job in one of the labour camps in Siberia. I’m not sure what they’ll be doing now, but I may have read that they were going to be sent to something like a medium level prison facility.
Now that the women will have a trademark, and brand marketing themselves, that means they are also incorporating as a business, something like Pussy Riot®, LLC. Nice going, ya anti-materialistic, Marxist, red-feminist twits.
Then, like Martha Stewart, during their incarceration, their limited liability business corporation will accrue income from licenses and royalties generated from the near bottomless pit of Madonna music land, liberal benefit concerts, and their fellow travelers among the Western and Westernizing liberals who are using their brand name.
Until it was discovered by the mainstream media that the alleged suspect George Zimmerman was a minority himself and not White, and the entire three-ring publicity circus shut down, just as we saw starting to take off with the Trayvon Martin incident, his grieving divorced parents went partners on trademarking his name, just in time to commercially exploit the tragedy.
After all, millions in the leftist activist groups were already buying Trayvon Martin’s name and image on t-shirts, so might as well also garner the royalties, on the advice of their attorney. For charitable purposes, of course.
Poor Wussies, as the darlings of the Oligarch and Westernizing intelligentsia of Moscow, they will probably come out at least petty millionaires.
I did find a very interesting character who may be a master puppeteer for the Voina and Wussy Riot political marionette theater, and there’s considerable evidence that he may be actually running an Israeli psy-op.
Alek D. Epstein is a creepy Jewish mover and shaker in the Moscow avant-garde and political activist circles, and another voice behind Russian “Opposition” located in Moscow. He is active in Russian public and intellectual life as well as in civil rights activism.
However, Epstein also has deep Zionist roots in Israel, so he may also be a dual citizen Russian-Israeli Jew, if not registered as a resident alien in Russia. He has ties to, and perhaps a hand in developing Wussy Riot & the parent group Voina and their group strategy and tactics.
The linking person between the two groups, the married Nadezhda Tolokonnikova - the spokesharlot for the other two whores - also played a significant part in the despicable ‘Voina’ art group.
In July 2012, Russian-Israeli Jew sociologist, political scientist and publicist Alek Epstein voiced his support for the arrested members of Wussy Riot by publishing a compilation of artworks by contemporary Russian artists entitled “Art on the barricades: Pussy Riot, the Bus Exhibit and the protest art-activism.” (In Russian): http://artchronika.ru/blog/epstein-pussy-riot/
He graduated from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem in 1995, and obtained his PhD in 2001. His MA and PhD dissertations were supervised by Martin van Creveld and Baruch Kimmerling.
Martin Levi van Creveld is an Israeli military historian and theorist.
The late Baruch Kimmerling, born in the Transylvanian border town of Turda, Romania in 1939, a Holocaust(TM) survivor whose family narrowly avoided extermination by escaping from the village in a gypsy wagon in 1944, then immigrated to Israhell in 1952, was an Israeli scholar and professor of sociology at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.
Though a sociologist by training, Kimmerling was associated with the New Historians, a group of Israeli scholars who question the official narrative of Israel’s creation. An outspoken critic of Isreali policies, he insisted that he was a patriotic Zionist.
Kimmerling, more of a leftist Jew, who was born with cerebral palsy which he suffered terribly from all of his life and confined him to a wheelchair, described his homeland as being “built on the ruins of another society.” A committed atheist, he lamented Jews’ and Arabs’ failure to “separate religion from nationality.”
From 1999-2010, Epstein served as an adjunct professor of sociology of Israel at the Department of Jewish Studies, Institute of Asian and African Countries, Moscow State University.
In 2009 he joined the faculty of the Russian-British postgraduate program at the Department of Sociology and Political Science at the Moscow School of Social and Economic Sciences.
His book The Thought Police: Authorities, Experts and Anti-Extremism Campaign in Contemporary Russia, co-authored with Oleg Vasiliev (Moscow, 2011), was named among the most important ones dedicated to an intellectual dissent in Russia’s current public life.
His book Total ‘Voina’ ( ‘War’): Art Activism in the Age of Tandemocracy (Moscow, 2012) has gained him even more notoriety within the civil activism and sociology of contemporary culture worlds.
As a former coordinator for academic cooperation at the Chais program in Jewish and Israel studies in Russian at the Open University of Israel, Epstein pushed forward contacts with various top-ranked Russian universities.
A little more of the Westernizing elites in Moscow come into view, and surprise, surprise, we find Epstein.
Good idea on the FED, but voting out politicians…… My faith in democracy has been shaken. If you read closely to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion , you will note that the media controls who win elections as much as the special interest’s money ( including those interest that make sure ending the FED would never happen). (Or bribing officials at the state levels to rig the elections.)
Case in point, John F Kennedy signed executive order 11110 authorizing the Treasury, not the Federal Reserve, to print 4.7 billion dollars that was backed by silver. A billion was a lot of money back then. In essence ending the Fed.
He told the people, ” Ask NOT what the country could do or you, but what ask what YOU can do for your country”, (No Welfare State) and refused to go into Cuba and Vietnam. ( NO to War). Welfare and War are the most expensive things a country can do. Here is where the country gets in debt.
So when we got LBJ, we got all of the above. We all know what happened to JFK. These special-interests will work outside of the law. Owned politicians make appointments to key government positions.
A lot of our overwritten laws end up in courts where appointed Judges get to write case law. Politicians don’t represent the people, they represent their back pockets. No matter who gets voted out, special interests will find a replacement who will do their bidding.
You and the rest of RJN family who have expressed their outrage over the evil assault on Christ and His people, as well as did all people of good will, (us), might be interested in reading the official statement published a couple of days ago regarding the decision of Moscow’s Khamovnichesky District Court about the disorder in the Cathedral of Christ the Savior.
The Declaration of the Highest Church Council Regarding the Sentence in the Case of the Desecration of the Cathedral of Christ the Savior in Moscow published in Pravmir.
You probably won’t find this formal public ecclesiastical statement outside of Orthodox newsletters and websites.
In a very clear, precise, firm, yet gentle manner, the Highest Church Council gives a full explanation about where the Orthodox Church in Russia stands in relation to the case, the secular authorities, and the evil nature of the blasphemous act impacting on the Church, morals, man and society, within the Christian scripture, teaching and understanding in general, and from the wisdom and insight of the Russian national and historical experience in particular.
In it, the Highest Church Council also expressed the Church’s gratitude and thanks “all those all those who have supported her, who have condemned the sacrilege, and who has voiced peaceful protests against it.”
Also a beautiful gem written by a deeply Orthodox soul: Open letter of Fr. Sergy (Ribko) to Sir Paul McCartney (Aug 21).
You’ll never see this in even the UK press, unless it is to ridicule or distort. Written from the heart of a humble and loving Russian priest, it is a rare retrospective glimpse into life behind the Iron Curtain during the Cold War ’70s.
Many people the age of 50 or older from what used to be called “The Free World” when we wore rosy glasses can really relate to Fr. Sergy. Brings tears to my eyes, and I’m going to tuck away a copy of his dear face to keep around.
Dear and Highly Esteemed Sir Paul McCartney,
I am a Russian Orthodox priest, a typical representative of the generation of the 70-s. Being born in the country behind the “iron curtain”, we nevertheless were brought up with the great music of the Beatles.
Dear Sir Paul,
You cannot even imagine how the art of your friends and personally yours was important to us. The Beatles’ songs learned us to think about the meaning of life, good and evil, even about God and eternity, taught us to understand and love freedom in all its manifestations.
The absence of freedom was extremely felt in that totalitarian country, in which we were doomed to be born and live. The “iron curtain” separated us not only from our mates in the free world where they could create and live according to their desires.
This deadly “curtain” separated hearts in our country as well. Moreover it tried to hide from us the Havens and the God.
In our childhood we were taught about the “class struggle”. We had to be victims for the sake of mythical “bright future”. We were brought up in the atmosphere of hatred of the whole world.
Could you imagine, dear Sir Paul, what your songs which called for peace, freedom and love meant for us in that heartless and Godless country (“sovok”)?
But freedom of a person praised by the Beatles was achieved not at the expense of other people: it never derogated the freedom of another person. And we have always wanted to be free just in this sense. I am free but my freedom does not stand in the way of other people.
Millions of Russian people set for guitar all songs of Beatles which penetrated to us through the “iron curtain” and “Berlin wall”. Your never-dying melodies could be heard in every flat and courtyard; not a single celebration party went without it.
Not Lenin and Marx taught our generation the meaning of life, but four honest guys from far and almost legendary English Liverpool.
But I am thankful to you mostly for having taught me to think and strive for the real freedom; your music and poetry eventually in a mysterious way helped me to understand Christ.
Believe me, Sir Paul, I am not alone. When I became priest and monk of the Russian Orthodox Church, I met thousands of people who admit that they had come to Orthodoxy because of your songs.
Dear Sir Paul,
Some months ago Russia witnessed an act of evil. We, Russian believers, perceive this event in this way.
In the church, built in honor of freeing Russia from Napoleon’s invasion, in the church which for us is the greatest national shrine, four young girls began to dance right before the altar swearing, singing sacrilegious songs and offences to Patriarch, who is for all of us the spiritual leader and honourable man.
All this Bacchanalia was filmed and blown the world. Needless to say what a shock and spit in the soul we, Russian orthodox religious people, had experienced.
Several weeks before this event members of Pussy Riot were trying to do something like this in another Moscow church. They were politely asked out without giving this public utterance.
They conducted a similar action in the Red Square, just exactly where you, dear Sir Paul, gave your concert. And again, sacrilege and twisting were left without any consequences.
At last, before the “action” in the Church of Christ the Savior members of Pussy Riot cropped up and performed an act of group sex with their partners in the State Zoo Museum in the broad daylight and in the presence of visitors including children.
Video and photos of this effrontery were also made public in Internet and shown over the central Russian TV channels.
Sir Paul, I would like to ask you whether you consider these actions normal? What could happen in future if these so called punk rock performers who in reality have nothing to do either with punk movement or with rock music were not stopped?
Of course, times are changing and in the “civilized world” this is probably considered normal, but I cannot imagine that musicians of Beatles group even with their nonconformity would allow something alike in the presence of children in a museum.
There exist some norms of moral, decency, ethic, good and evil, not necessarily connected with this or that religion, which nobody can neglect. Because if the people overstep this limits, the will lose the character of Homo Sapiens and become the animal.
Dear Sir Paul, I am sure that you and other famous musicians were misled as to the essence of this latter event and came out for Pussy Riot without knowing these details. That is why I ventured to let you know the position of Russian believers.
In your letter addressed to Pussy Riot you struggle for the freedom of art and self-expression. Nobody is against. Everything – freedom, art and self-expression – are elementary rights which God gave every man.
As Lord Jesus Christ is teaching us, You shall know the Truth, and the Truth shall make you free (The Gospel According to John, ch. 8, para. 32). Christianity is the religion of lovers of liberty and free-thinking people.
And in the present Russia our desire to be free is multiplied by that life experience in totalitarian communist state which we, Russians, had.
Please note, Sir Paul, that Russian Orthodox Church did not call upon to punish Pussy Riot: judicial proceedings took place upon the court petition of private persons who had been deeply offended by their act.
And I understand those people. When Pussy Riot blaspheme in the street, it is their private affair. Many people do the same. But if they break into our church disturbing praying people, blaming our God, out faith, our Patriarch, they offend personally each of us.
Please tell me, Sir Paul, what would be your reaction if during your concert somebody run onto the scene and began to break your instruments, hindering your performance and then took your microphone and in dirty words offend everything that is dear and sacred for you, i.e. your wife, your parents, your art, your moral values?
Would you call it self-expression and freedom of art or consider it as usual disorderly conduct? And what would you do in such a situation? I think that as a man possessing chivalry you would not wait for the guard but take actions against such a person yourself.
Probably the sentence for Pussy Riot is somewhat severe. But it was passed by the judiciary bodies.
Wishing these young women good, please understand also us, orthodox believers. To nobody we wish ill, prison, long time in prisons, but at the same time we wish that our shrines for which not in so far past out fathers and grandfathers spilled blood, were subjected such an affront.
It was not us who pitched the members of Pussy Riot group but it were they who plunged into our church and insulted deeply the present people and thousands of Internet users, which saw the movie with this sacrilege.
They mocked before the God’s altar. And we wish not long terms in prison for these ill-educated and disorderly women but only that something similar will never take place in any of our churches.
With all due respect,
Hegumen Sergy (Ribko),
Rector of Moscow Church of Holy Spirit,
Member of Intersynodical Presence of Russian Orthodox Church,
in the 70s – drummer of rock-group and a member
of hippies movement
Pursuant to your request, I will attempt to clear up questions you have about the Federal Reserve Bank (FED). I spent much time researching the FED and these are the shocking and revealing conclusions.
THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK IS A PRIVATE COMPANY.
Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution states that Congress shall have the power to coin (create) money and regulate the value thereof. Today however, the FED, which is a privately owned company, controls and profits by printing money through the Treasury, and regulating its value.
The FED began with approximately 300 people or banks that became owners (stockholders purchasing stock at $100 per share - the stock is not publicly traded) in the Federal Reserve Banking System. They make up an international banking cartel of wealth beyond comparison (Reference 1, 14). The FED banking system collects billions of dollars (Reference 8, 17) in interest annually and distributes the profits to its shareholders. The Congress illegally gave the FED the right to print money (through the Treasury) at no interest to the FED. The FED creates money from nothing, and loans it back to us through banks, and charges interest on our currency. The FED also buys Government debt with money printed on a printing press and charges U.S. taxpayers interest. Many Congressmen and Presidents say this is fraud (Reference 1,2,3,5,17).
Who actually owns the Federal Reserve Central Banks? The ownership of the 12 Central banks, a very well kept secret, has been revealed:
Rothschild Bank of London
Warburg Bank of Hamburg
Rothschild Bank of Berlin
Lehman Brothers of New York
Lazard Brothers of Paris
Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York
Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy
Goldman, Sachs of New York
Warburg Bank of Amsterdam
Chase Manhattan Bank of New York
(Reference 14, P. 13, Reference 12, P. 152)
These bankers are connected to London Banking Houses which ultimately control the FED. When England lost the Revolutionary War with America (our forefathers were fighting their own government), they planned to control us by controlling our banking system, the printing of our money, and our debt (Reference 4, 22).
The individuals listed below owned banks which in turn owned shares in the FED. The banks listed below have significant control over the New York FED District, which controls the other 11 FED Districts. These banks also are partly foreign owned and control the New York FED District Bank. (Reference 22)
First National Bank of New York
James Stillman National City Bank, New York
Mary W. Harnman
National Bank of Commerce, New York
Hanover National Bank, New York
Chase National Bank, New York
Thomas F. Ryan
Levi P. Morton
George F. Baker
Mrs. G.F. St. George
Katherine St. George
J.P. Morgan (Equitable Life/Mutual Life)
Edith Brevour T. Baker
(Reference 4 for above, Reference 22 has details, P. 92, 93, 96, 179)
How did it happen? After previous attempts to push the Federal Reserve Act through Congress, a group of bankers funded and staffed Woodrow Wilson’s campaign for President. He had committed to sign this act.
In 1913, a Senator, Nelson Aldrich, maternal grandfather to the Rockefellers, pushed the Federal Reserve Act through Congress just before Christmas when much of Congress was on vacation (Reference 3, 4, 5). When elected, Wilson passed the FED. Later, Wilson remorsefully replied (referring to the FED), “I have unwittingly ruined my country” (Reference 17, P. 31).
Let me start by thanking you on behalf of all of us for the wonderful work you do here at Brother Nathanael’s website.
For years you have tirelessly devoted yourself to this great work. And only yesterday you must have spent several hours putting together your posts. What many people don’t realize is that a posting that takes a minute two to read often takes several hours to write.
Going back to the whole sorry PR/FEMEN saga, I find it quite fascinating to experience first hand, and as it happens, the workings of the wicked few and their machinery. We can clearly see how they change their tactics, not seldom on a daily basis, just like chess players. No wonder they call it The Great Game.
The chopping down of the great crucifix in Kiev, although a great job in itself, didn’t quite fit in with the current agenda - to elevate PR to heroine status - so they’ve put a lid on it. For now at least.
We can also see how forgiving the people of the Russian Church are - only a 15 days sentence for an assault (an attempt to kill really) by a half naked crazy whore on an elderly man of God! Had the victim been a rabbi, it would have been headline news the world over and the girl severely punished.
But the noble Russian Christians seem to believe in forgiving and forgetting, thus living out their faith in their daily lives - no matter what. And this method seems to work.
I have also come to understand how important it is to keep calm in situations of adversity, for there are instigators en masse lurking about, patiently waiting for an opportunity to strike. This time they struck gold with PR. FEMEN, on the other hand, will have to wait their turn.
Perhaps it is also a good idea to check in at RT on a regular basis from now on, something I haven’t been doing. Too many important stories, like the ones concerning FEMEN, come to our attention way too late it seems.
Paul McCartney has disgraced himself completely in my eyes by his shameful support for PR. I was disgusted when I first heard him coming to the defence of those sluts, but we all know where his loyalty lies - and it is not to his Christian roots. How can it be when he acts like this?
He still loves the limelight and the adulation that comes with being a Beatle. He is still in business, remember, and is thus in need of protecting his interests i.e. his bank balance.
To flirt with the younger generation in openly supporting their new idols - in this case three anti-Christian whores - is good strategy from a business point of view. Perhaps his new business woman missus talked him into it?
I pity him : for like the slut Madonna, he looks like a shell of a human being - a lost soul, with nowhere to go but back to the stage, trying to recreate the feeling of youth and invincibility of days gone by when he and the Beatles ruled the world.
He is a sad figure of a man indeed, looking just as ridiculous as Madonna does with his dyed hair - both of them vainly and desperately clinging on to youth with everything they’ve got. He is an old man, but seems to think he is 25. No wonder he is acting like a juvenile, like a brat.
BTW, like the noble Fr. Sergy, I too used to be a fan of the Beatles and their music, but as I grew older I grew somewhat the wiser.
And now, understanding more about the origins of Rock music and its purpose (maybe a topic for +BN?), I prefer not to expose myself to it too much as it often has a negative effect on us.
Good classical music, on the other hand, truly soothes the soul.
Ike’s incompetence led directly to the Battle of the Bulge.
The Germans saw that his lines were so undermanned that they could practically walk through them.
A debacle of enormous consequence was prevented only by an immediate and aggressive counterattack by General Patton - whom Ike repaid by starving of gasoline so that his troops wouldn’t beat the Soviets to Berlin; and then had assassinated because he resisted Jewry’s postwar plans for Europe….
Johann: “BTW, like the noble Fr. Sergy, I too used to be a fan of the Beatles and their music, but as I grew older I grew somewhat the wiser.”
Same thing here. No doubt the Fab Four were musically gifted (Paul in particular was the boy wonder of the band). But what did they do of transcendent value? Yellow Submarine? Where’s the exploration of virtue in their music? Lots of tambourines but where’s the truth?
Sting, another failed Catholic, like Sir Paul… and Madonna… is another PR defender. Being a rock star apparently imposes a creed on a person.
“It started as a rumor and has now become literally a fact and after doing days of studying, it has been shown to me that several NGO’s have been behind the shenanigans called Pussy Riot and these NGO’s are American sponsored.
“To the tune of millions of dollars and that money has been spent to cause issues, because Russia refuses to play Americas little Syria game….”
We all know that Paul McCartney has had a hard time figuring out who to marry. He likely has had many women to choose from to marry, but he has lost his shirt in divorce court. (This may be why he is not retired).
He’s made a pattern of poor choices when it comes to the opposite sex. So, it is not surprising for him to make a misjudgment in the Rotten Pee case. He just has a hard time picking out women.
One of the links on that page takes us to a site that tells us that the mother of the 18 year old girl was so horrified over what her daughter had done that she threw her out.
One thing is clear, the orgy is bad news for PR, not least because it proves once and for all that they really are whores. And perhaps this is why it is so hard to find any info about this orgy on the Net?
I also came accross a few pictures of this new heroine of ours - from the orgy - where she shames herself and her unborn baby in a most discraceful way. I wonder how Sir Paul would defend her if somebody showed him the pictures and the video from the orgy?
According to their press officer, Derek Taylor, they were “completely anti-Christ. I mean, I am anti-Christ as well, but they’re so anti-Christ they shock me which isn’t an easy thing.”
Perhaps it was just a phase, part of growing up, but in Sir Paul’s case I very much doubt it. He may be a Christian, but not as we know it.
There are a few really wonderful songs by George Harrison from the early seventies, where he sings about his love for God, like “Give me love”; but you’re right, most of their combined work was secular and worldly - music for the masses.
You’re right about Sir Paul. He has a hard time picking out women. Had he married a Russian church going woman, instead of the one he picked this time, he would not have supported the three sluts, but the Church.
Wussy Riot itself is kind of a spin-off of the “protest art” group called Voina (”War”) which is the actual name of the group involved in the museum incident of 2008 that you are looking for.
In another post, I profiled a big Jew player, Epstein, and his relationship to Voina, in the Moscow political avant garde.
The dark haired, very pregnant Nadezhda Tolokonnikova, the “evil genius” of Wussy Riot, and her husband were members of Voina at the time, and maybe still are. Maybe they cooled it after having the baby.
The Beatles were not really any kind of Christian group, and McCartney could never be called a Christian, and Fr. Serge wasn’t claiming that he was one.
Assuming McCartney ever reads the open letter, Father was appealing to McCartney’s natural conscience and any sense of decency, if the man even has any left.
But, seeds of truth can be found in many places, just as “seeds” of Christ, the Word of God, are in many places, since Creation itself testifies of Him.
Fr. Serge was speaking from a time in his life which was a time of totalitarian darkness in the ’70s. Maybe like a broken clock can be right twice a day, in the Beatle’s music Fr. Serge providentially heard some seeds of truth about spirit, beauty, freedom, honesty, courage that appealed to his heart, and which set fire to a whole Russian generation played as a form of defiance because it was Western.
Some went on to become Christian because Orthodoxy spirituality was on the rise at the same time, because of recent state persecution.
“There are a few really wonderful songs by George Harrison from the early seventies, where he sings about his love for God, like “Give me love”; but you’re right, most of their combined work was secular and worldly - music for the masses.”
George Harrison was a practicing Hindu. His songs about “God” were not the God of the Christianity. Matter-of-factly “My Sweet Lord” is in reference to Hare Krishna.
Music is subversive; this becomes evident as one ages and gains Spiritual discernment [not necessarily in that order].
If we truly understood the subversiveness of what has been fostered upon us for music, as with art, we would demand punitive sanctions (you decide what draconian punishment to meet out).
The Beatles were no accident. Many music critics mention there where better groups or bands of their era. Have you not ever wondered what propelled them to the top? They played beer halls and second rate nightclubs in Hamburg. Gifted and talented in their own right?
These boys were the American equivilant of “High School” drop-outs with no real musical training or internship. All self taught. Too many oddities here to swallow they had talent in of themselves. I think it was George Martin who mentioned in an interview that thought Ringo was a decent drummer, he could not play a basic “rip.”
The key is Brian Epstein and his connections. Note his last name is not Anglo-Saxon. Connect the dots.
Very interesting story with this one to toss out to RJN family concerning assaults on things Christian.
By its timing, it is providentially connected to the Wussy Riot psy-ops, as well as a growing realization among the American people that something about 9/11 is smelling like gefilte fish.
The Atheists are pushing for either complete removal of the World Trade Center Cross, or put everyone’s religious symbols up, including I suppose, a 30 foot ‘A’ for the, er, ahem, ass-, ass-, um, atheists.
9/11 museum, atheists spar over cross
(CBS News) The National September 11 Memorial and Museum’s planned presentation of the World Trade Center cross-shaped steel beam, which became a famous Ground Zero symbol right after the September 11 attacks, is being legally challenged by an atheist group.
Last year, American Atheists sued the museum for the cross’ removal, arguing that the steel beam promoted religion. Its legal director, Edwin Kagin [Jew, ya think?], argued that the display represents “a violation of both federal and New York law in that public funds will be used to establish the Christian religion on public land.”
This week, as previously reported by The New York Post and The New York Times, the museum filed court papers to have the lawsuit thrown out.
American Atheists’ president, David Silverman [Jew, ya think?], characterized the display as “a clear instance of a violation of the separation of church and state in its extreme.”
“This shrine is a cross,” Silverman told CBS News on Thursday. “It was picked up, trimmed, polished, the word ‘Jesus’ was carved on top of it, it was prayed over in front of a church for five years, and then it was installed in the WTC memorial with no warning by a priest in a religious service where in the ground was consecrated.
“This is a working Christian shrine in the memorial and then they had the gall to say it’s not religious in nature, that it represents everybody. That’s not true. It does not represent Jews, Muslims, Mormons or atheists, and they all had deaths on 9/11.”
Silverman said that the museum should either remove the cross or acknowledge everybody else who died in the tragedy in a manner equal to Christians. “We’re talking about public lands, we’re talking about public funds, we’re talking about congressionally ordered public funds.
“We’re talking about an 18-foot memorial, this is grossly inappropriate. We feel very strongly that this is an attempt to Christianize 9/11, to make it about Christians, even though it’s not about Christians at all.”
When contacted by CBS News, the museum said it had no comments on Silverman’s claims. As reported by other media outlets, the museum in its court filing characterized itself is an “independent non-profit corporation.”
It called the cross an “important and essential artifact” that “belongs at the World Trade Center site as it comprises a key component of the re-telling of the story of 9/11.”
Michael Moreland, vice dean and professor of law at Villanova University School of Law in Pennsylvania, said there are two issues presented in this case. “If the court agrees with the Museum that it is a private non-profit organization,” Moreland told CBS News, “then the museum will win because a private party can’t violate the Establishment Clause - only the government can.
“But, second, displays of religious symbols by the government aren’t always unconstitutional.
“In 2010, a majority of the Supreme Court indicated that a memorial cross on government land in the Mojave Desert was constitutionally permissible because a reasonable observer wouldn’t conclude that the government was ‘endorsing’ Christianity by displaying the cross on public land.
“Given the historical significance of the 9/11 cross during the Ground Zero cleanup, I think the museum has a strong argument that the cross’s historical significance outweighs any perceived government endorsement of religion.”
According to Peter Breen, executive and legal counsel for Thomas More Society, a Chicago-based law firm involved in pro-life, traditional marriage, and religious liberty issues, said that a private entity cannot violate one’s constitutional rights.
“It appears based on the arguments of the lawyers of the museum,” he said, “they’re arguing from pretty solid ground - that a museum cannot be prohibited from displaying a historical item merely because the item has religious significance or is in viewed with religious significance by others.
“I think the lawyers for the museum were also right to condemn this as an attempt to revise the very history of the site by trying to keep the 9/11 cross out of the museum.”
UPDATE—The World Trade Center Cross: A Fight for Equal Rights
David Silverman, American Atheists President, said, “What we seek is any remedy that honors everyone equally, be they Christian, Muslim, Jew, or atheist.
“This can either be done with a totally neutral memorial that concentrates on the tragedy and not religion, or one that allows everyone to put up a display of equal size and prominence. In the latter case, we have offered to pay for a display ourselves. If everyone is provided equal treatment, we will drop our lawsuit because fair is fair.”
Kenneth Bronstein [Jew, ya think?], New York City Atheists President, said, “The so-called miracle cross that now dominates Ground Zero discriminates against all the Jews, Muslims, Atheists, Agnostics, and others who died in the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center.
“The cross is not a miracle. It is just a couple of rusty girders, one of hundreds just like it that were found after the Twin Towers fell. After all, the Twin Towers were built with thousands of such T-shaped girders.
Yes, KathJuliane, the name Voina is the key to unravelling the truth about that orgy. Once I had read your last comment, I used it and within minutes found all I had set out to find.
I will, however, not post a link to those wicked pages - too disgusting. Anyone that cares to know about the true nature of these women and wants to see that dark haired slut naked and heavily pregnant on the floor can easily find those pages for themselves.
Read your post about that Silverman fellow, and it just hit me what a hypocrite he is, for exactly the same arguments he is using against the WTC cross could be used against the menorah outside the White House. All you need to do is change the word “cross” to “menorah” and read his statement again.
So why doesn’t this devoted atheist and defender of a secular society join forces with Brother Nathanael in his quest to get that illegal religious Jewish symbol stopped from ever being put up on the White House lawn again? Perhaps he only hates religous symbols if they look like crosses?
Whether George Harrison was a practicing Hindu or not at that time in his life, Fred, I don’t know. All I said was that he wrote a few beautiful songs about God. Exactly how he defined God, nobody knows. I do, however, agree with you with regards to the sudden rise of the Beatles. There seems to be more to them than reaches the eye.
An interesting fact about Brian Epstein: He actually took 25 percent of everything the boys earned. Greedy as he was, he was both manager and agent for the band, thus pocketing 10 percent for one job and 15 percent for the other. What a great business man he was. He then died mysteriously?
The untold story of “Pussy Riot” and the “Soft Power” plan to destabilize Russia.
Members of “Voina” form a “Feminist Punk Band” called “Pussy Riot” (after the vulgar term for a certain part of the female anatomy). The troubled young girls have no musical skills, nor do they produce any albums.
Their act consists of donning masks and publicly screaming obsceneties towards Putin and Kirill as they strum on guitars that they know not how to play.
This is where the hypocrisy of the U.S. government makes itself perfectly clear: They use every little incident and blow it up past all proportion in an attempt to attack the leaders of that nation, this time Mr. Putin, in order to take the heat off themselves.
The Zionist prostitute, Hillary Clinton should shut her cake hole. There are no words which can even begin to describe the amount of hubris, hypocrisy and chutzpah of this administration or past administrations.
Do they think we are all that stupid?
Consider what Chaney did to Valerie Plame.
The treatment of Susan Lindhauer.
The assassination of Paul Wellstone.
The incarceration and treatment of Bradley Manning.
The arrest and incarceration of Brandon Raub in a psychiatric hospital, threatened with forced medication and brainwashing. He is now freed thanks to the actions of his mother and those of the Rutherford Institute.
Now it has been discovered there are many individuals here in America, who have disappeared. Since the illegal and unwarranted arrest of Brandon Raub, the subsequent involvement of the Rutherford Institute, there have been a substantial number of people who also called into the institute to tell of their own experience of their family members disappearing as well.
How many? Will anyone be able to find out?
The loss of the our inalienable rights, especially with the attacks on the 1st, 4th, 5th Amendments clearly indicate that human rights are of no consequence to the government in Washington.
This government has violated the human right of hundreds of millions of people throughout the world through the use of unwarranted wars, juntas which are used to install puppet regimes, who are in no way humanitarian, but instead ruthless, sadistic dictators who are nothing more than henchmen for multinational corporations.
The United States is by far the worst offender of human rights, and as Dr. Martin Luther King jr. once said, “the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today,” as it still is. The United States is also becoming the most loathed and despised nation on earth due to its hypocrisy and hubris.
The rest of the people in the world know this. Unfortunately most Amerikans don’t.